Micro 655: Forest Fire - Endgame

[CloudKicker]

HAHAHA I HAVENT READ

[CloudKicker]

so far page 4 mariar should be town with jester and bbmolla

[CloudKicker]

vifam should be town for page 5... almost saved the game ! mariar could go both ways tho

[CloudKicker]

After the flip on page 16

Mariar town, jester is town since i saw he died on the first post, i didnt see in my first previous posts
Vifam+flubber+myself+teapot should all be town imho

we should lynch in molla smooth and howard

[BBmolla]

we should lynch in howard

[CloudKicker]

UNVOTE: mariar yo i reread everything and my replacement is on fucking point, this game is really really really easy and roark is the most obvious lynch by a mile since im lucky enough to be replacing a slot that was fosed, i can literraly give a ml back to the town @mariar, trust me girl i aint no mafia and tier towntold plenty before the flip. BBmolla seems scummy but like tier said, his play ISNT of alone mafia trying to survive the whole game, i aint lynching him. Jester was obv town but i can see why he got lynched. Mariar was a bit wierd d1 but towntelling, i can see thats cuz she was pr. The teapot honestly i havent read shit LOL, his first 3-4 posts were on goddam point and im not voting him for a while.

We are speedlynching Roark into smoothblue and then we will see, i am 100% @jester and mariar. My firsts posts in this game were completly genuine while i didnt even know who fliped and what not. Flubber insisted that fire was mafia when he didnt have any attention, this is really towny to me and i overall agree with everything tier said all game, the only reason why hes fosed its cause he sounds a bit awk, i dont

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: roark get this

[The_Jester]

I'm fine with this.

[CloudKicker]

Also for overall town mechanics, heres is how i view the game and i would like input if im wrong since i never played with arsonists on mafiascum, i am from em.

D1 : 7 town, 2 scum, (1 pr firefighter ?)
N2 : 6 town, 1 ignited town but mariar self firefitghter , 1 scum -> 7 town 1 scum
D2 : 7 town, 1 scum (atm)
N3: 6 town, 1 scum, MariaR ingited

---------- speculations----------------

(A) best case

D4: 6 town, 1 scum, MariaR ingited
N4: (a) 5 town, 1 scum, MariaR dead
D4: (a) 5 town, 1 scum
N5: (a) 3 town, 1 scum, 1 ignited
D5: (a) 3 town, 1 scum, 1 ingited [Ignited is lynched]
N6: (a.1) 2 town, 1 scum, 1 ingnited MYLO
D7: (a.1) 2 town, 1 scum, 1 ingnted MULO [Ignited is lynched]
N8: (a.101) 1 town, 1 scum, 1 ingnited LYLO


(B) worst case

N4: (b) 4 town, 1 scum, MariaR, ignited + 1 town, Mariar miss ingnited
D5: (b) 4 town, 1 scum, 2 ingnited [Lynch outside ignited]
N5: (b) 3 town, 1 scum FIRE ?


i dont want to go too much into details not to give cues to mafia btw, but the end is obscure

[ReubenWasFine]

wouldn't mariar being ignited two nights in a row imply scum are told that they failed? self-protect was only brought up today, not earlier.

[CloudKicker]

Nah i dont think so, maybe they just ignited outside n3, i didnt really think about it but maybe mafia also ignited outside n2 which would be pro

[CloudKicker]

mfw i just realized roark and smooth are the same person, we just gained another ml lmao

[The_Jester]

I'm pretty sure arsonists don't know whether they succeeded.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Howard

[CloudKicker]

''Arsonists have a single factional night action. They may choose to prime a single target, or to ignite all previously primed targets.
Firefighter blocks the priming of a target ONLY on the night in which they are being primed.
Trees become Tree-stumps upon being lynched, allowing them to continue posting in the thread.
Firefighter, Trees, Tree-stumps, and Arsonists are all vulnerable to being primed and ignited.
Players are not told when they are primed, Arsonists are not told if the priming was successful.
Tree-stumps cannot vote, and do not count as a vote for endgame purposes.''

[ReubenWasFine]

hmm yeah. just thought that it was weird to say.

i don't think your slot was a ml. i would have lynched vifam/howard/bb before tiershift. like i said before if the firefighter was someone like bbmolla or smoothblue and they didn't appear in the last moments of day, fire had a shot at speedlynching tiershift, which would mean he would be CCed the next day, being game over wrt scum!tiershift. even if he was reading vifam as PR and trusted vifam to be on at the time, that gamble is simply too much to bet the game on.

i don't disagree with behavior of bb vs. expected scum behavior. what i don't like is how the wagons of day 1 were supposedly entirely all-town minus early fire assassin vote onto tiershift.

VOTE: Howard

L-1

[CloudKicker]

You know what teapot, at first i did click on a few posts from tier and other people on special posts that i wanted to comment on, i remember one of the posts was about all the town who were on the flubber wagon and all the town being on mine here and honestly, it does preoccupies me, this should be an easy town win if not, mafia is higly townread imo or something

[The_Jester]

The only thing that bothers me about Howard is why did he choose Vifam, the strongest tr at the time, as his target? Maybe he thought his interactions with Fire were enough, as outlined in his catch-up post.

[CloudKicker]

@ jester, i dont know, i dont actually expect him to flip mafia from the deep of my heart, i just seriously believe that hes the best lynch atm and that its really really fine to use mls like that when you lynched mafia d1

[ReubenWasFine]

vifam as his original target was a pretty good pet read. i made note of vifam early on but i've discounted it for pretty good reasons. i can understand someone that wasn't there for the wagons not to question the content during the wagons, and it was the content that looks good for vifam. he hated the counterwagons, got annoyed by lack of fire lynch, started his own wagon, realized it wasn't happening and threw his vote in on fire. if howard genuinely found this suspicious i thought it was fine to see where he would go with it so i could read him better, but his opinion supposedly hasn't changed or evolved in any way wrt vifam and has voted two other people not named vifam since then. the vifam sr is pretty rotten at this point.

[BBmolla]

why is reuben talking in past tense, it's very strange

[The_Jester]

It's not? What exactly do you wanna say here?

[Flubbernugget]

I'M CLEAR YOU ASS

what

[Flubbernugget]

i want to iso roark i will have to do it later

[The_Jester]

I'M CLEAR YOU ASS

what

MARIA'S CLEAR YOU ASS