I can see that you feel very strongly about Mafia not being a numbers game, Pine. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think you place great value on the idea that we can detect by looking at someone's posts what is in their role PM, even on day 1. I think we maybe should continue this discussion after the game is over, so that it doesn't derail our game thread. Should be an interesting chat!!
If there's nothing to be gained by talking, let's just random lynch. Hell, let's RL D2 as well. Then the day after that. Maybe we just turn this into an EpicMafia or Town of Salem satellite site while we're at it.
Fuck off. We don't neuter Town on this site. Get with the program or go back to where you came from.
Come on, Pine. Don't say personal things about me. I came from The Grey Labyrinth, anyway! And I do like it there, but I like it here too!
There is nothing to be gained by talking aimlessly. Voting, there is something to be gained from. Votes on people who already have votes, especially, have an actual effect on the game. Therefore scum has a true motivation to play different from town- specifically, to not participate in bandwagons on their partner. As for just posting words, players can all do that equally well, regardless of what's in their role PM.
By the way if anyone is interested in town's winning percentage with purely random lynches, with 2 scum and 7 town it's 94/315 (~29.84%). Interesting, yeah? It would be even more interesting to look at the results of games, look at the accuracy of lynches on day 1, day 2, etc. and compare reality with random chance for different days, different setups, etc.
We can find collections of posts that are scum blending in as town, or ingenuine attempts to scumhunt... as well as there are pluses to starting a different bandwagon (townpoints).
...Thanks for making this game weirder...?
"Tell me what you see, tell me. Is it scary? I hope it is, in fact, I hope it scares you to pieces."
Pine, I agree with most of your wall post about milkshake, but why does any of that actually make him scum? It seems like you are just interested in lynching poor play with that vote.
Thinkbig, get better. =/
Also,
Mod, could you prod Kop please?
^I'm still waiting for him to respond to me.
3-2 as scum and 5-8 as town
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Right now, I haven't got any solid reads in my mind to put forward.
Gut feelings is that Milkshake, Lil Uzi Vert, are town. But that's just gut.
Could you try to verbalize those gut reads and maybe re-read and come up with at least one guess for scum?
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As much as I disagree with milkshake's attitude towards random wagons and apathy, he seems to believe it. To be clear, yes it advances the game to have early wagons. But at some point, you need to develop reads and push them. But I don't see the scum motivation in him pushing this stance, so it's more likely that he genuinely believes what he is saying and is probably town.
How can I explain gut feelings, of those 3 I get gut feelings from the post tone.
I need to reread the entire thread again, I've just come back online and forgot about everything that has happened. It won't be tonight.
In post 168, MisaTange wrote:BTW, it should be on the table that, while I don't see the town motivation for what milkshake is doing, I don't see the scum motivation either.
I mean, scum motivation is to look productive. His voting is bad and his pushes are non existent. He's trying to coast by.
In post 172, MisaTange wrote:Ah, hmm. I can see that, though I feel stronger about scum!Sleepless than anything.
Also, go ahead. Pretty much all of the top presences (me, Sleepless) has been called scum except for him.
People prefer to call active players scum as there's more to build a case on them.
I'm sure people will share their cases with me if they want you lynched though.