Micro 662: ArcAngel's Twin Trap Mafia (Ended)

[ArcAngel9]

Sleepless assassin and Lil Uzi Vert has been prodded

[Lil Uzi Vert]

UNVOTE:

Seriously struggling to get into this game.

@Kop: Why the OMGUS vote? No one was discussing policy lynching at a length that required such a reaction.

I feel that it being mentioned he is keeping cards there that can be played when the time comes. It's not a normal town mentality to even mention a policy lynch, especially this early because it just tells me that if he can't maintain a wagon he needs a fall back that he feels he could drive without much resistance.

Or maybe I am over reacting. A little.

I mean it doesn't seem like a play that would be successful. I agree with you on part of the latter but I've seen people on this site want to policy lynch people early on for even more idiotic reasons.

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

Lil Uzi Vert, I agree with your assessment that there is not enough content right now to deduce anything substantial. BUT, the stance you have taken because of the lack of information is exactly what I advise against. You say you don't feel like voting anybody. Specifically you don't want to vote Sleepless Assassin, MisaTange, and Pine. Sleepless Assassin is the most relevant of these three because he has the most votes right now.

There is not enough content, yes. So, anyone has a 2 out of 9 chance to be scum. If you run the numbers, you will find a 2 out of 9 chance is good enough for the town at this point. If you feel apathetic, just join the bandwagon. Then the content will come.

What the fuck is this scumfuckery

Unvote

This looks a LOT like a scumbuddy trying to push a rudderless player onto the less damaging of two options.

I am still of the opinion that SA/MT is not Town vs Town, so that suggests a MT/Milkshake scumteam.

Game solved. You're welcome.

Vote MisaTange

Sleepless Assassin should agree with this vote. Bandwagons are good for making games come to life!

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

Yeah, this supports it. Blatantly doesn't care about scumhunting, just wants to lynch someone.

In fact,

Unvote
Vote milkshake

I can come back to SA/MT, this is shiny and obvious.

That's the start of it.

I don't see it. Your second quote about milkshake not caring who gets lynched is actually very poor imo.

[Pine]

Shrug. Like I said, it was just the beginning of the case, and what I could easily pull from my ISO on the fly. The stronger case is in the ongoing reaction to my suspicion.

[milkshake]

Ok, I will join the Kop wagon.

VOTE: Kop

This will help things happen I think.

My heart wants Pine to be scum, because his play is based on such incorrect understanding of the game from my viewpoint, but I think that just because he disagrees with me doesn't make him scum. However he does seem to think I am scum, ha. I do think there's a chance he's scum, but anyway there's no votes on Pine. So it's a moot point.

[milkshake]

That's L-1

[Pine]

Ok, I will join the Kop wagon.

VOTE: Kop

This will help things happen I think.

My heart wants Pine to be scum, because his play is based on such incorrect understanding of the game from my viewpoint, but I think that just because he disagrees with me doesn't make him scum. However he does seem to think I am scum, ha. I do think there's a chance he's scum, but anyway there's no votes on Pine. So it's a moot point.

Gah. This post right here. It's a scumpost.

How are you people not seeing this? A lurkerlynch over this crap?

[Kop]

Ok, I will join the Kop wagon.

VOTE: Kop

This will help things happen I think.

My heart wants Pine to be scum, because his play is based on such incorrect understanding of the game from my viewpoint, but I think that just because he disagrees with me doesn't make him scum. However he does seem to think I am scum, ha. I do think there's a chance he's scum, but anyway there's no votes on Pine. So it's a moot point.

There's no votes on Pine so you won't go there, but you won't make a strong enough case and actually vote for him?

[Spade_Ace]

Ok, I will join the Kop wagon.

VOTE: Kop

This will help things happen I think.

My heart wants Pine to be scum, because his play is based on such incorrect understanding of the game from my viewpoint, but I think that just because he disagrees with me doesn't make him scum. However he does seem to think I am scum, ha. I do think there's a chance he's scum, but anyway there's no votes on Pine. So it's a moot point.

Wow. Are you building a case against yourself??

[Vedith]

Wow. Are you building a case against yourself??

Yeah, tell your buddy how that's a bad idea.

[Spade_Ace]

I did. But he isn't listening. What to do?

[Vedith]

Lynch him with me. Get some credit and I might help you survive day 2.

[Spade_Ace]

Ohh great Mafia lord Vedith. Your humble devotee is in need of some towncred. Please accept 'milkshake' as a sacrifice and help me survive day2.

VOTE: Milkshake

PS: Do you also have the power to help me survive night 1?

[Vedith]

Stop role fishing!
Good vote though. More on Milkshake. Whoever isn't voting him, we have scum in there.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Sorry, got busy. Will be back to normal tomorrow night

[MisaTange]

@milkshake: and yet no addressing of the fact that everyone has a chance of rolling scum, and I don't really get the point of Pine having an incorrect understanding of the game, you opting to discuss your suggestion of 'random lynch' post game implies that it's more of a matter of play style and doesn't need to be addressed

I kind of want to vote milkshake but I don't want to derphammer. Where's she at in votes to lynch?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Milkshake is at L-1.

Please do not hammer without a claim and/or giving everyone a chance to discuss said claim

[Vedith]

Milkshake is at L-1.

Please do not hammer without a claim and/or giving everyone a chance to discuss said claim

A hammer here is acceptable.

[milkshake]

I don't think anyone here cares about strong words so I'm just going to phrase this strongly.

It's funny how twisted around themselves some of the players here are. Your idea of how to play the game is based on such fallacious nonsense that when I actually try to use reason, I drive people wild, make them post reaction pics, and get myself to L-1.

Yes, I will join any bandwagon that was NOT started for the reason "Based on his posts and nothing else, no game related information, I think this one specific player is scum." Because that reason can be used by anyone. Especially scum. True, in the current state of the game, town players use that reason too. But I can't differentiate between town using that reason and scum using it. And you can't either. After we join some bandwagons, THEN we might have something to work off of.

Possibly if I flip, someone will actually come forward with something based on reason. If I don't get hammered, I will continue trying to post sense. As to how things have gotten this way now, it's possible that this is because the current town just lacks the ability to recognize logic, so scum are just telling them bologna and they think "oh yes, that's smart mafia stuff." Or it may be people really believe this garbage. Like I've somehow betrayed my inner feelings through my forum posts, and it's now so clear that I'm scum.

If I'm not hammered, it's also possible that someone on my wagon is going to turn around now and say "oh, based on milkshake's reaction, he's town. My plan worked guys." I really don't know how to feel about that. If that's the case and you're town, then you've thrown up a whole facade and discarded it all for no reason. I could make this post just as well if I was scum as I can now as town. If, even worse, the person who said that then becomes "lynch immune," then I know that nonsense has prevailed again.

I don't hold it against the site and I still think this game is pretty fun. Just kind of outraged at what's happened so far this game!

Anyway, I'm a vanilla townie. Based on this claim, I should be hammered now, right? That's exactly what the numbers say SHOULD happen on Day 1: a vanilla townie gets lynched. So maybe I shouldn't complain. It's a completely probable outcome excepting the 2-no-lynches strategy (which I do think might be OK). Except that nothing posted has acknowledged the reality of the situation. Instead, what I see is "I'm 100% sure milkshake is scum" which due to its obvious lack of any basis in fact is getting the town nowhere.

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: Milkshake

Yeah he's town,
Lets go for the next scummy person.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

[milkshake]

Minimum word count requirement reached. Player is town.

[Vedith]

Minimum word count requirement reached. Player is town.

I actually read it.

[Kop]

Minimum word count requirement reached. Player is town.

I actually read it.

And it took you all of 2 minutes to read that and come to that conclusion? How so quick?

[Vedith]

Minimum word count requirement reached. Player is town.

I actually read it.

And it took you all of 2 minutes to read that and come to that conclusion? How so quick?

Because my IQ extends past 11.

[milkshake]

I don't know what to think about anything.

Must kill kop.