Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[culted]

Think I'll start reading, no idea about any of the mechanics or if this is even a mafia game yet.

Exciting.

[drealmerz7]

yes please read all of the roles, all details in any PM(s) you may have received, and all of the thread, and then get back to us

[culted]

Oh is that how you're suppose to replace in?

How's about tl;dr, drealmerz7? Who do you think is scum?

[drealmerz7]

no, culted, read everything
anything else is unacceptable
if you didn't want to read and catch up, you shouldn't replace in

[culted]

I just said I would read, but you should also give me a quick summary of what you're thinking and what you think I should be paying attention to while I do it.

You're trying to look helpful while being anything but.

[drealmerz7]

stop wasting your time and just read - that is as helpful as it gets

[drealmerz7]

form your own perspective genuinely as you go rather than have it tainted with summarized other perspectives

that is always the best

[culted]

I'm perfectly capable of forming my own opinion while hearing the opinions of others but I see you're adamant about this so I'll just go back to reading and wait for someone who wants to have a conversation to post.

I'm up to page 5 and haven't seen any scumhunting this is a bad sign.

[drealmerz7]

I'll be glad to engage you once you're "with it" (:

[Shaziro]

I'm down for conversation. Also, this goes to everyone, if you have any questions about the source material for this, ask away. I'll be filling y'all in on most things as they come up, but if you have any questions, go ahead.

[drealmerz7]

what would you say is the biggest weakness to Strahd?

a vulnerability or something, even if it is an emotional thing

I want to know about his personality

I should go play the video games just to get a better sense...

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.

[Shaziro]

what would you say is the biggest weakness to Strahd?

a vulnerability or something, even if it is an emotional thing

I want to know about his personality

I should go play the video games just to get a better sense...

Well, he is obsessed with Tatyana. So, getting her away from him enrages him. There's a way to free Tatyana from Ravenloft, but I won't be saying it here until it comes up because I don't want scum working to avoid it somehow. As a vampire, he is weakened by sunlight, can't enter a home unless invited in, and when killed retreats to his coffin where he can be killed by staking him through the heart within 2 hours.

Strahd is an incredibly prideful, incredibly cunning manipulator. He is a master strategist, and has had centuries of practice tormenting adventurers and normal folks in his domain. One of the first places you see in the game, the "Murder House", is basically the residence of a family who's mom and dad tried to start a cult of Strahd in order to gain his favor. He let them go way deep into it and let their lives fall apart as their minds did...then sent them a letter basically saying they were miles below him and their petty attempts to curry his favor were meaningless.

[drealmerz7]

yepyep

excellent

[culted]

VOTE: Shaziro

Up to speed.

[culted]

VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.

But is pine scum?

[culted]

One thing I meant to get clarification on, why did you guys talk about classes being counterclaimed after pine's claim? At face value it just looked like you guys were assuming the setup was broken.

[Shaziro]

One thing I meant to get clarification on, why did you guys talk about classes being counterclaimed after pine's claim? At face value it just looked like you guys were assuming the setup was broken.

We were saying that Pine claimed being one of two classes without saying which, which would mean that even if he was neither, nobody could counterclaim effectively because it would mean that he would be able to say he was the one they didn't claim, and if both of his claimed classes claimed (which they wouldn't, because of the risk of being the only one to claim) and we lynched him for obviously lying, we would have two revealed classes which would become prime targets for scum, as both are adept at offing undead, which Strahd is.

[culted]

No I understand the scum motivation (as well as the town motivation) for keeping a claim vague. What I don't understand is why you expect scum to have to wriggle around with claiming shit or would even be worried about being countered at all.

Unless you're saying he fakeclaimed one of those classes that wouldn't be safe for him to claim just to get an item that he doesn't even know does anything.

[shaddowez]

VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.

VOTE: Dunnstral

You're literally saying "Town helped him get this item, now let's lynch him to see if he is actually town or not." That's terrible, and I can't even fathom how that would ever come from a town mindset.

[Shaziro]

No I understand the scum motivation (as well as the town motivation) for keeping a claim vague. What I don't understand is why you expect scum to have to wriggle around with claiming shit or would even be worried about being countered at all.

Unless you're saying he fakeclaimed one of those classes that wouldn't be safe for him to claim just to get an item that he doesn't even know does anything.

I was more pointing out that counterclaiming would be useless, so we shouldn't really expect that. If you read, you should know I voted for Pine to get the item and opted to trust him. Also, of course the item does -something-, that should be fairly obvious.

[culted]

But why would you expect a counterclaim in the first place?

My point was though that the only scenario I can see where pines risks making a claim like that as scum is where they'd know that the item actually could do something semi worthwhile. I too agree that the first item is probably gonna do something more than likely.

Not sure how to take pine saying it doesn't do anything tbh. Could be scum lying or town telling the truth. Could be it does something that pine doesn't even know about as either alignment.
All worthless speculation at this point until we see some blood.

Who do you think is scum, shaziro?

[Pine]

No no, it does something, just not something that's class specific or even all that useful at this time.

[Pine]

I probably won't ever get to use it, at least.

[culted]

VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.

VOTE: Dunnstral

You're literally saying "Town helped him get this item, now let's lynch him to see if he is actually town or not." That's terrible, and I can't even fathom how that would ever come from a town mindset.

I could get down with this.

Why is nobody asking me why I'm voting shaz?