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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:06 am

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Let's assume 1 scum is left, and that leon is being truthful:

It's pretty well confirmed that Peregrin rolestopped nacho twice, and that infinity targeted nacho with something twice.
Xykon exists and is likely the final scum.
Unless leon is scum, I would be shocked if cakez hadn't jailkept shaddow, which means that the third scumplayer attempted to kill if an attempt was made.
Due to rule E3, neither infinity nor peregrin are scum unless no kill attempt was made, which seems unlikely to me.
Tammy is flavor confirmed, and a highly probably N1 kill target.
Panther is confirmed thog and thus town.
Kraska would not have attempted to kill tammy N1, though maaaaaaybe nacho if nacho is town.

Only possible scummos are myself, nacho, wisdom, and maybe kraska.
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 2321, Wisdom wrote:i agree, cakez and nacho did look like buddies, but what about the nokill then?

peregrine, are you sure you're not actually a roleblocker and you misread your role?
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 2321, Wisdom wrote:i agree, cakez and nacho did look like buddies, but what about the nokill then?

peregrine, are you sure you're not actually a roleblocker and you misread your role?
Yes, confirm this.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:07 am

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actually nacho being shot night 1 and tammy night 2 makes a lot more sense

i really dont think anyone would have been dumb enough to kill nacho after what happened on day 2
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:07 am

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Tammy was known to be BP N2, kraska
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:08 am

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Nacho kill N2 is the only thing that vaguely makes sense.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:09 am

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i mean if panther's scum, i think thats how the kills went
i just get the feeling last scum wasnt following the thread
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:10 am

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In post 2325, Kagami wrote:and that leon is being truthful:
In post 2325, Kagami wrote:Xykon exists and is likely the final scum.
In post 2325, Kagami wrote:Panther is confirmed thog and thus town.
I don't think any of those assumptions are wise to make
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:10 am

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I see no reason not to unless we plan to lynch leon for verification.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:11 am

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In post 2329, Kagami wrote:Tammy was known to be BP N2, kraska
In post 2330, Kagami wrote:Nacho kill N2 is the only thing that vaguely makes sense.
No, it makes sense that Panther missed Tammy being BP and thus shot her given how it looks like he had barely read anything
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:11 am

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In post 2325, Kagami wrote:Let's assume 1 scum is left, and that leon is being truthful:

It's pretty well confirmed that Peregrin rolestopped nacho twice, and that infinity targeted nacho with something twice.
Xykon exists and is likely the final scum.
Unless leon is scum, I would be shocked if cakez hadn't jailkept shaddow, which means that the third scumplayer attempted to kill if an attempt was made.
Due to rule E3, neither infinity nor peregrin are scum unless no kill attempt was made, which seems unlikely to me.

Tammy is flavor confirmed, and a highly probably N1 kill target.
Panther is confirmed thog and thus town.
Kraska would not have attempted to kill tammy N1, though maaaaaaybe nacho if nacho is town.

Only possible scummos are myself, nacho, wisdom, and maybe kraska.
Ooh, that's a good catch. Everyone who can prove an N1 action is clear.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:11 am

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Thog would make sense as scum though.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:12 am

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or cakez didn't JK shadow, but it would be pretty stupid not to.
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:13 am

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I guess scum-Panther could alternatively think that Nacho was town for being the counterwagon to Cakez and thus shoot there? That could also stem from not being caught up with the game
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:13 am

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was town = would be townread
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:13 am

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I buy the panther argument, but that makes leon scum of some sort.
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:13 am

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The scum team could be a hodgepodge

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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:14 am

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Seems like lynching leon is strictly better than lynching panther.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:15 am

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Would be kinda funny is Roy was told xykon was definitely somewhere and he goes there searching when he's not in the game at all though.

Or xykon is in the game and is a lyncher on Roy while Roy is a lyncher on xykon?
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:15 am

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In post 2342, Kagami wrote:Seems like lynching leon is strictly better than lynching panther.
Both are bad plays.
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 2340, Kagami wrote:I buy the panther argument, but that makes leon scum of some sort.
which makes more sense than him being pro-town given all the power we have

plus what I said about him magically guessing kraska/tammy's flavor
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:17 am

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In post 2343, Tammy wrote:Would be kinda funny is Roy was told xykon was definitely somewhere and he goes there searching when he's not in the game at all though.

Or xykon is in the game and is a lyncher on Roy while Roy is a lyncher on xykon?
First option would make this a bastard game, which this is not.

Second option is not out of the realm of possibility, but Xykon being lyncher on Roy makes little sense.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:17 am

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In post 2343, Tammy wrote:Would be kinda funny is Roy was told xykon was definitely somewhere and he goes there searching when he's not in the game at all though.

Or xykon is in the game and is a lyncher on Roy while Roy is a lyncher on xykon?
Lyncher on non-existent flavor, while hilarious, would be extremely bastardly.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 2343, Tammy wrote:Would be kinda funny is Roy was told xykon was definitely somewhere and he goes there searching when he's not in the game at all though.

Or xykon is in the game and is a lyncher on Roy while Roy is a lyncher on xykon?
what makes most sense to me is that Xykon is not in the game as that makes Leon's fakeclaim better. Like I said yesterday, if Xykon was in the game and we lynched him, and then Leon didn't die, he would instalose. With him not being in the game he can still insist Xykon exists until all scum have been lynched.
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 2345, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2340, Kagami wrote:I buy the panther argument, but that makes leon scum of some sort.
which makes more sense than him being pro-town given all the power we have

plus what I said about him magically guessing kraska/tammy's flavor
I like the comic, and the Monster and his relationship was the first thing that came to mind with the BP-enabled vig paradigm. And only after you said that you knew who they were, which made me think that the answer is more obvious than I thought.
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