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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:11 am

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VOTE: drealmerz7

Only a few days til deadline and I like this wagon better than shaddowez right now.

Can someone
who is/was on the Algebra wagon
summarize that the case for me?

Can someone
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summarize that case for me?
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:11 am

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Also the strong associatives is really funny, i just said i got a mirroring tell on the guy and that its a strong towntell for me, i didnt even discuss his content or his pushes yet you strongly believe we are the same alignement. I wonder if you will keep that read when he flips town ;)
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:12 am

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lol grey dont you see that the flip is really telling
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:13 am

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L-2 on the scum wagon. *\(^_^)/*
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:16 am

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In post 647, CloudKicker wrote:Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple
Show me one single town read from them.

Show me one single post where they are actually trying to advance the game (hint: PL's do not advance the game)
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:18 am

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Youre implying town will have a townread and town would try to advance the game
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:19 am

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Im not going to defend that idea but i dont think its that AI, on em is isnt
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:19 am

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In post 655, CloudKicker wrote:Youre implying town will have a townread and town would try to advance the game
You're implying that town would not play to their wincon.

Two can play your game, boy-o. You're fighting a losing battle on this front.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:21 am

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Implying outing a tr and trying to advance the game is the only way to play for your wincon. Just towntelling is playing for your wincon yknow, when town defends you when ppl try to strongarm the lynches on them :roll:
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:25 am

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In post 658, CloudKicker wrote:Implying outing a tr and trying to advance the game is the only way to play for your wincon. Just towntelling is playing for your wincon yknow, when town defends you when ppl try to strongarm the lynches on them :roll:
You can say the word towntelling until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make drealmz town because you have to be playing towards your wincon in order to towntell.

Towntelling comes from players making an effort to win the game, which drealmerz has not done AT ALL, so your doubling down and refusal to reconsider your read in light of the insurmountable evidence against him is going to bury you when he flips red.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:26 am

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Lol then we disagree, there isnt a shadow of insumountable evidence againts him, all your saiyng hes that hes scum for messing around which is a bullshit case bro
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:27 am

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In post 660, CloudKicker wrote:Lol then we disagree, there isnt a shadow of insumountable evidence againts him, all your saiyng hes that hes scum for messing around which is a bullshit case bro
That's a criminally bad misrepresentation of my case against him.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:34 am

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Your case is hes rping and not outing reads/helping town advance, isnt that correct? also that his vote were bad or something
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:42 am

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In post 271, drealmerz7 wrote: VOTE: algebra - you're a waste of space
Shitty unexplained vote that's borderline rulebreaking.
In post 294, drealmerz7 wrote: self vote is PL in my book

no other reason needed to vote

get on algebra pls (:
The only reason he ever gives to vote Algebra, which came will after he actually voted for him.

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drealmerz hid his shitty vote inside a shitty PL in order to look like he was contributing to town.

The reality of the situation is that he was pushing a wagon that would have provided zero information due to the fact it was based on policy, which clearly advances a scum wincon.

On top of that, his reads consist of a few slapfight scumreads and zero townreads, with no actual investigation of the game state shown from him outside of maybe one post that was little more than a slapfight in itself.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:49 am

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Thats not what i call insurmountable evidence and its easier for scum to out trs than srs or to slapfight like you said :roll: ppl agreeing with you are mefia grey if youre not
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 664, CloudKicker wrote:Thats not what i call insurmountable evidence and its easier for scum to out trs than srs or to slapfight like you said :roll: ppl agreeing with you are mefia grey if youre not
drealmerz has been playing the game to deny information to town this entire game and there is no legitimate excuse for their play.

Period.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:54 am

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To deny information or not to produce content isnt the same, boy-o
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:56 am

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That being said, the algebra vote was indeed bad lel and i could see mefia pushing a policy lynch
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 666, CloudKicker wrote:To deny information or not to produce content isnt the same, boy-o
I am well aware and I chose my words deliberately.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:59 am

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You still think im mefia with that dude, dont you
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:00 pm

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In post 669, CloudKicker wrote:You still think im mefia with that dude, dont you
If you're still blindly defending him, I do.

If you decide to pull your head out of your ass and reconsider your read, mine isn't etched in stone.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:02 pm

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And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:02 pm

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Or will you actually own up and learn from the lynch
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 671, CloudKicker wrote:And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not
If he flips town, then my reads are obviously shit and I'll shut the fuck up and let somebody else drive.

As it stands, this wagon is the only one that is based on a case that goes beyond superficial reasoning.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:09 pm

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In post 673, -Grey- wrote:
In post 671, CloudKicker wrote:And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not
If he flips town, then my reads are obviously shit and I'll shut the fuck up and let somebody else drive.


As it stands, this wagon is the only one that is based on a case that goes beyond superficial reasoning.
Thats a bit rough. When im town and i have a strong read and the read flips, i tend to not only blame myself but also the other guy for scumtelling and such. I wouldnt call my reads outright ''obviously shit'' just because i missed. A pro-town answer would look like:

"If he flip town, then he better learn to not rp and actually help the game state because he did nothing to blbablabla''

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