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Post Post #8075 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:15 am

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So I think mathblade is acting similar to the standard self from last day so back to scum voting

VOTE: Yoshi
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Post Post #8076 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 8075, Creeps20 wrote:So I think mathblade is acting similar to the standard self from last day so back to scum voting

VOTE: Yoshi
Back to scum voting? What were voting for before then?
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Post Post #8077 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:40 am

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In post 8051, BigYoshiFan wrote:Scum because it is voting me.

Just kidding, but I don't recall it scumreading me yesterday as it says.
Nothing strikes out to me as scum from NC.
To be honest, I like NC's interaction with you right around 7950-ish.
I'm sorry, but your posts there seemed wack, and NC seemed to see it like I did.
I mean... is null acceptable? I'm sure you know by now that when you ask me for a read I won't deliver to the potential you're asking for.
I'm not understanding the scumreads on NC prior to this day, persuade me.
I haven't spent much time on NC.
I was kind of asking for what the reads are on NC, because I'm not sure I understand them.
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Post Post #8078 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:43 am

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In post 8071, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8068, BigYoshiFan wrote:Going to school, but I'll answer MathBlade's question about A50.
I don't care if his flavor really is annoying dog, if his wincon is to win with town, he is to help us win, and he is not doing that.
Also, when I expressed my doubt for MathBlade, A50 seems opportunistic in buddying me and the post he did that in was just scummy over, try to appeal to my emotion rather than anything else. I will try to find it later. More on NC later, but I guess because I don't scumread them I TR it. I'm not afraid to make associations, I just don't think it'd be accurate to make one with the lack of information I have of NC.

Ugh if I didn't want Not Chara first I would vote you right now. This is the definition of scum faking reads.
No one has perfect information except scum.
That whole "not enough information" is shit. If you were Town you wouldn't say "oh well no associations" you would be asking questions trying to figure it out.
What are you saying?
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Post Post #8079 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:49 am

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In post 8076, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 8075, Creeps20 wrote:So I think mathblade is acting similar to the standard self from last day so back to scum voting

VOTE: Yoshi
Back to scum voting? What were voting for before then?
A scum-read
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Post Post #8080 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:50 am

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So... why are you voting a scum-read when you apparently think I am definitely scum? That's the issue I see with that post.
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Post Post #8081 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:02 pm

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In post 8080, BigYoshiFan wrote:So... why are you voting a scum-read when you apparently think I am definitely scum? That's the issue I see with that post.
ISO yourself from the last day.

That is exactly why I know you are scum
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Post Post #8082 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:03 pm

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That wasn't my question.
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Post Post #8083 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:31 pm

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In post 8082, BigYoshiFan wrote:That wasn't my question.
Thought it was.

In my head if MathBlade was scum then he is a bigger threat as he is largely town-read. You are massively scum read and will probably be lynched without my help
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Post Post #8084 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 8072, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8067, SirCakez wrote:
In post 8038, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8037, SirCakez wrote:
In post 8013, Not Chara wrote:
In post 8001, SirCakez wrote:If NC or BYF is scum I'm pretty sure the other is too
great. i'm scum. lynch Yoshi.
<.<

See now a problem I realize in retrospect with that statement is that I don't see NC/BYF fitting with A50/Narna/Gio.
It can't. That's why I am split between two different potential teams.

Who are your biggest town reads SirCakez? (Myself excluded) Also for shits and giggles please repeat for N4?
I really don't have many. Ank, you kind of, Accountant.
What do you mean repeat for N4?

Also where the hell has Giovanni gone?
During the day your reads aren't clear in your ISO.

What were your big townreads and scumreads during N4?
Pretty similar to now. I had townreads on everyone who got booted when the draw thing happened. And I've had a scumread on Narna/A50 the whole game.
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Post Post #8085 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:03 pm

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Giovanni il Pellegrino has been prodded.
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Post Post #8086 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:04 pm

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Day 6, Vote Count #6

Current Vote Count:

(0)
SirCakez
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Giovanni il Pellegrino
(1)
MathBlade -- BigYoshiFan
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PeregrineV
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Nahdia
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Accountant
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Not Chara -- Narna, MathBlade
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Ankamius
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BigYoshiFan -- Nahdia, Not Chara, Creeps20
(0)
Narna
(2)
Almost50 -- Accountant, Almost50
(0)
Pine
(0)
Creeps20

Not Voting:
SirCakez, Giovanni il Pellegrino, PeregrineV, Ankamius, Pine

With 13 votes available, it takes 7 votes to hammer.

Day 6 Will End on Monday, December 26th, at 9 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-26 21:00:00)



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Post Post #8087 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:08 pm

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Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

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Post Post #8088 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:42 pm

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In post 8083, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 8082, BigYoshiFan wrote:That wasn't my question.
Thought it was.

In my head if MathBlade was scum then he is a bigger threat as he is largely town-read. You are massively scum read and will probably be lynched without my help
I like that thinking. Fair enough.
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Post Post #8089 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:45 pm

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In post 8087, Accountant wrote:Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
yuuuup
It's definitely something I'd expect A50 scum to do too.
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Post Post #8090 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:03 pm

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VOTE: Almost50
Jump on it!
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Post Post #8091 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:05 pm

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In post 8087, Accountant wrote:Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
Where does your TR on Creeps come from?
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Post Post #8092 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:42 pm

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Apologies for the Prod. I have had heaps of work these past days. Quick comment amd I'll make one more detailed later today.
In post 8087, Accountant wrote:Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
I agree that the Jester thing is most likely nonsense, I disagree that it is necessarily scum motivated. A50 has given me more the impression of someone trolling because he thinks this game has become uninteresting, rather than that of someone who tries to convince people that he is a Jester because in reality he is scum trying to avoid lynching. It seems needlessly complicated.

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I don't think we can deny the fact that there is another faction in the game after Maxous's lynch amd I cannot understand how it became such a serious point of contention. Skullduggery cannot mislead or outright lie per game rules and I believe that the wingding messages were written by Skullduggery every time Maxous activated an ability. As Nahdia (I think) pointed out, I doubt Maxous would be as dramatic as the tone of some messages imply.

This could also mean that regular scum could be lower in number than we think. I doubt that with 13 players alive we could have 5 scum plus any number of third party. It seems awfully unbalanced.
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Post Post #8093 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:48 pm

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well to be fair, we
have
mislynched a lot of town.
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Post Post #8094 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:15 pm

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In post 8093, Nahdia wrote:well to be fair, we
have
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this game started with 22 players. 5 scum is definitely a distinct possibility. Giovanni, i don't know what the number of
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Post Post #8095 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:21 pm

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In post 8071, MathBlade wrote:Ugh if I didn't want Not Chara first I would vote you right now. This is the definition of scum faking reads. No one has perfect information except scum. That whole "not enough information" is shit. If you were Town you wouldn't say "oh well no associations" you would be asking questions trying to figure it out.
i do not understand you, if you're town. this is about as certain as one can get about a read, and you want 'me over Yoshi' because why? what reason? not that this reasoning makes any sense, either.

Yoshi: stop being reasonable regarding my lynch. it makes it difficult to scumread you.

on Almost: i don't know what he's doing at this point. i'm waiting for him to accuse someone on his lynch, and i
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what strategy he's attempting to replicate here. i just don't know what the end goal is, and at this point can't vouch for his alignment either way.
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Post Post #8096 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:23 pm

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In post 8092, Giovanni il Pellegrino wrote:I agree that the Jester thing is most likely nonsense, I disagree that it is necessarily scum motivated. A50 has given me more the impression of someone trolling because he thinks this game has become uninteresting, rather than that of someone who tries to convince people that he is a Jester because in reality he is scum trying to avoid lynching. It seems needlessly complicated.
That's illegal, and he should be blacklisted for playing against wincon if he does that.
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Post Post #8097 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:23 pm

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I don't think anyone here is denying that the game is tiring and in some cases spammy to the point of tediousness - but there's no reason to extrapolate that A50 is playing against wincon simply because of that, unless he's a much poorer sport than I thought.
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Post Post #8098 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:35 pm

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In post 8087, Accountant wrote:Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
I did not say I was a jester. I did NOT say that. I was using an example for the argument with Mathblade. I clearly said:
In post 8061, Almost50 wrote:
I could be a Jester
(and this IS a bastard game).
I could be Scum
protecting my scum buddies wither by preventing their lynch (because they have a stronger PR) or proving them right thus giving the Town cred (if they're bussing me already).
I could be Town
who knows getting lynched at some point results in something favourable to Town. I could be a whole number of things that you may or may not even be able to predict, keeping in mind Skull's Roles are never standard and they'll always have something genuine to toss into their games.
And followed that with:
In post 8064, Almost50 wrote:As for the Jester thing, if I'm playing it bad then I won't get lynched. Right? So now assume that I'm either Town or Scum and work on it from the same perspective. You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know.
So, please stop skimming and actually read before you post.

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Post Post #8099 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:36 pm

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In post 8089, SirCakez wrote:
In post 8087, Accountant wrote:Creeps is town btw

I'n 95% certain this jester crap by A50 is a bluff.
yuuuup
It's definitely something I'd expect A50 scum to do too.
And that is based on.. what?! I'd like you to provide examples. OK, ONE example.

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