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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:34 pm

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I'm not scum though. Though the other Power role could probably realize something I've left out and hinted at a few times.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 599, ConnorJC wrote:@Rautherdir, who do you think is scum (excepting lurkers) and why?
Alright, in order of most scummy to most towny:

TheDominator. I know you said excepting lurkers, but this goes beyond lurking.
LicketyQuickety. Rolefishing in . I still don't like that.
ConnorJC. Going with the popular vote most all of the time.
Superhans. Just not enough town action
Lovesick. It felt like genuine emotion when she was defending herself. However, her lack of attacks on other players could have put her higher in this list.
Nachomamma8. Would have been most town on this list if I saw more recent content
FancyPants. You immediately set about scum-hunting after getting back on.
Your Dominator read is very safe, everyone bar LQ agrees with you.
You are flip flopping like crazy on your LQ read.
ConnorJC is at least contributing judgement, and more original ideas than you.
Lovesick read isn't original, pointed out by LQ.
Nachomamma8's town read isn't explained... I have some more recent content, does that make more the most town in your books?
FancyPants just voted against you and you haven't properly addressed his attack.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 675, Rautherdir wrote:I'm not scum though. Though the other Power role could probably realize something I've left out and hinted at a few times.
The
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Are you claiming tracker or doctor then?
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:39 pm

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Ok, honestly, I'd vote Rautherdir, but I need to go check that he's at L-2 and not L-1
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:42 pm

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Yeah, I haven't factored in your recent action. The reasons FancyPants voted me are true, I haven't really posted much of value due to my own ineptitude and my ill-thought out attack on LQ pretty much sealed my fate, I can't really prove him wrong because I don't want to shift from TheDominator and it hasn't posted enough content for me to make any actual attacks against it. FancyPants I read as town. Even though he's voting me.

Pedit: I'm at L-2 I think.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

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I am at L-2.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 679, Rautherdir wrote:Yeah, I haven't factored in your recent action. The reasons FancyPants voted me are true, I haven't really posted much of value due to my own ineptitude and my ill-thought out attack on LQ pretty much sealed my fate, I can't really prove him wrong because I don't want to shift from TheDominator and it hasn't posted enough content for me to make any actual attacks against it. FancyPants I read as town. Even though he's voting me.

Pedit: I'm at L-2 I think.
Who do you think TheDom's partner is then?
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

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In post 676, Superhans wrote:Lovesick read isn't original, pointed out by LQ.
I don't think I actually pointed out that R's lovesick read wasn't original, but thanks anyways.

P-Edit: I got a hankering feeling that FP is Scum. Its is kinda sorta gut though.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:46 pm

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In post 679, Rautherdir wrote:Yeah, I haven't factored in your recent action. The reasons FancyPants voted me are true, I haven't really posted much of value due to my own ineptitude and my ill-thought out attack on LQ pretty much sealed my fate, I can't really prove him wrong because I don't want to shift from TheDominator and it hasn't posted enough content for me to make any actual attacks against it. FancyPants I read as town. Even though he's voting me.

Pedit: I'm at L-2 I think.
I was P-Editing this btw.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:47 pm

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LQ defended it. Lovesick defended it, but then took that back. So I'm going to say one of them. Here's a suggestion though: don't flip-flop. It gets you lynched.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:48 pm

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In post 684, Rautherdir wrote:LQ defended it. Lovesick defended it, but then took that back. So I'm going to say one of them. Here's a suggestion though: don't flip-flop. It gets you lynched.
There's a difference between flip-flopping with good reasoning each time, and jumping on random bandwagons while barely contributing to them at all.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:48 pm

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@Lovesick
In response to post
In my opinion none of the votes/unvotes are flaky.
Post 18 & 20 were jokes during the early game.
Post 100 explains itself.
Post 246 is me excited for reads.
Post 350 is me trying to bait LQ.
Post 355 illustrates that it wasn't a serious vote.

Original means a read that is not a rehash, or a development of someone elses read.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:49 pm

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I'm not as sure about Rautherdir scum now. I like that he stuck with his TheDom read, didn't try to change it to get out of being lynched.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:49 pm

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In post 684, Rautherdir wrote:LQ defended it. Lovesick defended it, but then took that back. So I'm going to say one of them. Here's a suggestion though: don't flip-flop. It gets you lynched.
I didnt take me defending denominator back, i said i would no longer defend him because he's acknowledged whats going on but made no advances on proving himself what so ever.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:50 pm

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In post 684, Rautherdir wrote:LQ defended it. Lovesick defended it, but then took that back. So I'm going to say one of them. Here's a suggestion though: don't flip-flop. It gets you lynched.
FWIW, I don't agree that flip flopping is a Scum tell. Town are just as likely to do it IMO.

P-Edit: Good point, bro!

P-Edit: its starting to get juicy now.

P-Edit: I think R could actually be cop here.

P-Edit: I don't want to see any talk about preflip regarding Dom, is that understood?
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:50 pm

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In post 682, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 676, Superhans wrote:Lovesick read isn't original, pointed out by LQ.
I don't think I actually pointed out that R's lovesick read wasn't original, but thanks anyways.

P-Edit: I got a hankering feeling that FP is Scum. Its is kinda sorta gut though.
I meant that the read that Lovesick is town because of her emotional reaction was first pointed out by you, and hence it isn't like Rautherdir's read is original at all.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:54 pm

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@Lovesick,
In post 271, Lovesick wrote:
In post 256, ConnorJC wrote:After rereading the posts that just came in, I know don't think that Lovesick is as town. I'd say maybe leaning town.

@Lovesick, please provide some of your own reads.
I particularly don't think anyone is leaning town or mafia as of right now, however there are certain parts of people's playstyles which make me wary/cautious of them
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Rautherdir - Justifying actions of others through Nacho's words and playstyle which I think is never justifiable as it is a preferred playstyle rather than something which should be followed.
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What do you mean by this read?
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:54 pm

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In post 686, Superhans wrote:@Lovesick
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In my opinion none of the votes/unvotes are flaky.
Post 18 & 20 were jokes during the early game.
Post 100 explains itself.
Post 246 is me excited for reads.
Post 350 is me trying to bait LQ.
Post 355 illustrates that it wasn't a serious vote.

Original means a read that is not a rehash, or a development of someone elses read.
I dont need an explanation for them. I was providing evidence for my claims.

Rehashing is frequent in mafia games as the players all see the same thing which iswhy similar thoughts and opinions are made. It's all because we get the same content unless there's a secret message/motive in them
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:55 pm

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In post 688, Lovesick wrote:
In post 684, Rautherdir wrote:LQ defended it. Lovesick defended it, but then took that back. So I'm going to say one of them. Here's a suggestion though: don't flip-flop. It gets you lynched.
I didnt take me defending denominator back, i said i would no longer defend him because he's acknowledged whats going on but made no advances on proving himself what so ever.
That's actually what I meant.
In post 690, Superhans wrote:
In post 682, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 676, Superhans wrote:Lovesick read isn't original, pointed out by LQ.
I don't think I actually pointed out that R's lovesick read wasn't original, but thanks anyways.

P-Edit: I got a hankering feeling that FP is Scum. Its is kinda sorta gut though.
I meant that the read that Lovesick is town because of her emotional reaction was first pointed out by you, and hence it isn't like Rautherdir's read is original at all.
I never said it was original. I just agreed. Probably should have noted that though.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:57 pm

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Ok, so assuming Rautherdir is town (I'm not convinced yet, but let's look at every possibility), then who is scum?
FP? Superhans?
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 691, Superhans wrote:@Lovesick,
In post 271, Lovesick wrote:
In post 256, ConnorJC wrote:After rereading the posts that just came in, I know don't think that Lovesick is as town. I'd say maybe leaning town.

@Lovesick, please provide some of your own reads.
I particularly don't think anyone is leaning town or mafia as of right now, however there are certain parts of people's playstyles which make me wary/cautious of them
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Rautherdir - Justifying actions of others through Nacho's words and playstyle which I think is never justifiable as it is a preferred playstyle rather than something which should be followed.
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What do you mean by this read?
That Nacho had said something about a certain playstyle and his preference and Rauth quoted his response to a pointi was making against you or connor, justifying yours or connor's actions because of Nacho's preferred way of playing
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:58 pm

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@Lovesick, what are your thoughts on a town (maybe PR?) Rautherdir?
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:00 pm

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@Rautherdir
please answer my question in:

"What is your read on Lovesick?"

Can you elaborate upon "Lovesick. It felt like genuine emotion when she was defending herself. However, her lack of attacks on other players could have put her higher in this list." from post or is this your only insight?
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 694, ConnorJC wrote:Ok, so assuming Rautherdir is town (I'm not convinced yet, but let's look at every possibility), then who is scum?
FP? Superhans?
Start with TheDominator. LQ mentioned it could be on purpose by town, and it's definitely on purpose, but I really doubt with town motivations at this point.
In post 695, Lovesick wrote:
In post 691, Superhans wrote:@Lovesick,
In post 271, Lovesick wrote:
In post 256, ConnorJC wrote:After rereading the posts that just came in, I know don't think that Lovesick is as town. I'd say maybe leaning town.

@Lovesick, please provide some of your own reads.
I particularly don't think anyone is leaning town or mafia as of right now, however there are certain parts of people's playstyles which make me wary/cautious of them
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Rautherdir - Justifying actions of others through Nacho's words and playstyle which I think is never justifiable as it is a preferred playstyle rather than something which should be followed.
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What do you mean by this read?
That Nacho had said something about a certain playstyle and his preference and Rauth quoted his response to a pointi was making against you or connor, justifying yours or connor's actions because of Nacho's preferred way of playing
I was actually justifying my own actions at that point. I had followed Nacho onto your wagon.

Pedit: She's actually contributing now. So that's a reason too.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:03 pm

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