What mostly made me switch from "Hey, stop fighting" to "You're scum" is this post.
In post 352, nydushermain wrote:Can we just kill DBW and see what happens? I'm willing to be the hammer if there's a fourth vote.
How does this seem town or even null to you?
Also, why would scum me be grilling Pep and Nyd as hard as I am?
Also why would scum me stop pushing Nyd now, cause currently I much rather push a Pep lynch then a nyd lynch.
It's a really wonky post, but I think that's just the way nyd plays. It's consistent with how I would expect him to act if he's town. It's not even his scummiest post so far - I've felt that way before myself as town. I don't see why this one post made him skyrocket in your reads.
Where is Mewtaph?
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In post 583, Alisae wrote:B. The whole buddying issue and "If he flipped scum, I would be in trouble" is a whole bunch of WIFOM
No it's not. Buddying the IC is pretty much standard scum play. I've been buddied many times by scum before. By saying "if [Accountant] flipped scum, I would be in trouble" you're acknowledging that you're essentially placing all your trust in the hope I am town, and I don't see why. I'd expect a townie to be more paranoid than that, especially as I am the IC and can fake being town easily as scum.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 614, nydushermain wrote:What I thought was towny of pep was something he did early I think (not sure if this is the case). Anyways, I also liked that he was defending me but after rereading, I realize that it might be scum!pep defending me to chainsaw himself.
I never said pep was mafia. DBW just seems like the way the lynch should go today tbh.
I never said DBW was town either, I said that pep was initially townie to me.
What did Pep do early?
I never that you said that Pep was maf, I'm asking why do you want to lynch DBW over Pep.
And I never said that you said that DBW is town. You said that I was town, so if you think that I am town, why would you want to consider lynching me?
I don't think I've really given DBW much thought due to low post count. The posts that I have seen of him though I haven't really considered them to be alignment indicative.
Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Let's hear it, then. You know, just so I can check you really townread me and aren't buddying me like Ali did.
I was suspecting you for not taking ny's playstyle into account based on a post you made earlier talking about playstyle differences then I saw you made a comment about how video mafia affects his playstyle so I felt like you weren't being unfair, and were able to notice that it was a playstyle issue.
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In post 618, Alisae wrote:Also Nyd, let me ask you another question. As scum, what is your opinion in bussing your partner? Have you ever done it before?
In video mafia yes. I don't think I've ever rolled scum on forum before though. I would never bus a partner if I only had 1 though unless it was a LYLO/MYLO situation.
In post 577, Accountant wrote:secondly being provocative towards someone who you know responds badly under pressure is a textbook scum tactic(see Mini Normal 1825 where gameplay506 provokes rb as scum) to make them look even worse and get an easy mislynch. The speed seems artificial and makes me think it's a scum tactic rather than a natural progression of reads.
Also, isn't this what exactly you were doing with your extensive questioning?
There's a difference between questioning someone you think is scum and questioning someone to provoke them.
Alright. Is there a specific moment in which I started focusing moreso in provoking him than extensively question them?
Besides 397. That was kinda far.
And don't you think Nyd is Buddying Pep or Pep is buddying Nyd?
What mostly made me switch from "Hey, stop fighting" to "You're scum" is this post.
In post 352, nydushermain wrote:Can we just kill DBW and see what happens? I'm willing to be the hammer if there's a fourth vote.
How does this seem town or even null to you?
Also, why would scum me be grilling Pep and Nyd as hard as I am?
Also why would scum me stop pushing Nyd now, cause currently I much rather push a Pep lynch then a nyd lynch.
It's a really wonky post, but I think that's just the way nyd plays. It's consistent with how I would expect him to act if he's town. It's not even his scummiest post so far - I've felt that way before myself as town. I don't see why this one post made him skyrocket in your reads.
Where is Mewtaph?
It made me skyrocket because at this point it just seemed like he wanted you to get off his tail. Like he didn't know how to actually fight against you.
In post 583, Alisae wrote:B. The whole buddying issue and "If he flipped scum, I would be in trouble" is a whole bunch of WIFOM
No it's not. Buddying the IC is pretty much standard scum play. I've been buddied many times by scum before. By saying "if [Accountant] flipped scum, I would be in trouble" you're acknowledging that you're essentially placing all your trust in the hope I am town, and I don't see why. I'd expect a townie to be more paranoid than that, especially as I am the IC and can fake being town easily as scum.
What makes you think I'm buddying you because your the IC?
In post 628, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was suspecting you for not taking ny's playstyle into account based on a post you made earlier talking about playstyle differences then I saw you made a comment about how video mafia affects his playstyle so I felt like you weren't being unfair, and were able to notice that it was a playstyle issue.
Why does this make me solid town rather than null?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
In post 628, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was suspecting you for not taking ny's playstyle into account based on a post you made earlier talking about playstyle differences then I saw you made a comment about how video mafia affects his playstyle so I felt like you weren't being unfair, and were able to notice that it was a playstyle issue.
Why does this make me solid town rather than null?
It demonstrates
a) you are willing to step baxk and reconsider
b) you are not playing contradictory to your comments on playstyle
and b is important since it took very little pushing from me to get you to fix the issue.
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In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Do you think Pep is trying to buddy you?
I could definitely see scum!pep doing it, not because he's trying to buddy me, but because you're going after him. I see like this kind of strategy where if he defends me successfully, he's always behind me in the lynch list if the fight between me and accountant continues. I dunno, it's a dumb answer I think because that's me saying it under the assumption that he's scum where if I assume he's town, he could just be defending me because of a scum read on you and accountant who were at the time attacking me.
In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Do you think Pep is trying to buddy you?
I could definitely see scum!pep doing it, not because he's trying to buddy me, but because you're going after him. I see like this kind of strategy where if he defends me successfully, he's always behind me in the lynch list if the fight between me and accountant continues. I dunno, it's a dumb answer I think because that's me saying it under the assumption that he's scum where if I assume he's town, he could just be defending me because of a scum read on you and accountant who were at the time attacking me.
Gamma, does this look like buddying to you, or am I just going crazy?
What mostly made me switch from "Hey, stop fighting" to "You're scum" is this post.
In post 352, nydushermain wrote:Can we just kill DBW and see what happens? I'm willing to be the hammer if there's a fourth vote.
How does this seem town or even null to you?
Also, why would scum me be grilling Pep and Nyd as hard as I am?
Also why would scum me stop pushing Nyd now, cause currently I much rather push a Pep lynch then a nyd lynch.
It's a really wonky post, but I think that's just the way nyd plays. It's consistent with how I would expect him to act if he's town. It's not even his scummiest post so far - I've felt that way before myself as town. I don't see why this one post made him skyrocket in your reads.
Where is Mewtaph?
It made me skyrocket because at this point it just seemed like he wanted you to get off his tail. Like he didn't know how to actually fight against you.
Actually both are true. I definitely wanted pressure off me because it was irritating me because I didn't feel like the pressure was just. I also have zero idea how to push a lynch in forum mafia. You're not reading my intent correctly, but not my alignment. I think you're probably town as I've stated before.
What mostly made me switch from "Hey, stop fighting" to "You're scum" is this post.
In post 352, nydushermain wrote:Can we just kill DBW and see what happens? I'm willing to be the hammer if there's a fourth vote.
How does this seem town or even null to you?
Also, why would scum me be grilling Pep and Nyd as hard as I am?
Also why would scum me stop pushing Nyd now, cause currently I much rather push a Pep lynch then a nyd lynch.
It's a really wonky post, but I think that's just the way nyd plays. It's consistent with how I would expect him to act if he's town. It's not even his scummiest post so far - I've felt that way before myself as town. I don't see why this one post made him skyrocket in your reads.
Where is Mewtaph?
It made me skyrocket because at this point it just seemed like he wanted you to get off his tail. Like he didn't know how to actually fight against you.
Actually both are true. I definitely wanted pressure off me because it was irritating me because I didn't feel like the pressure was just. I also have zero idea how to push a lynch in forum mafia. You're not reading my intent correctly, but not my alignment. I think you're probably town as I've stated before.
Which in that case, it's definitely something you'll learn overtime as you play more and get more experience.
I'm still learnin to be honest
In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Do you think Pep is trying to buddy you?
I could definitely see scum!pep doing it, not because he's trying to buddy me, but because you're going after him. I see like this kind of strategy where if he defends me successfully, he's always behind me in the lynch list if the fight between me and accountant continues. I dunno, it's a dumb answer I think because that's me saying it under the assumption that he's scum where if I assume he's town, he could just be defending me because of a scum read on you and accountant who were at the time attacking me.
Gamma, does this look like buddying to you, or am I just going crazy?
Buddying who?
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In post 627, nydushermain wrote:Pep I thought was townie because he came to the conclusion that accountant was scummy based on a similar reason to mine. It didn't seem like a sheep either so we were thinking the same way.
Do you think Pep is trying to buddy you?
I could definitely see scum!pep doing it, not because he's trying to buddy me, but because you're going after him. I see like this kind of strategy where if he defends me successfully, he's always behind me in the lynch list if the fight between me and accountant continues. I dunno, it's a dumb answer I think because that's me saying it under the assumption that he's scum where if I assume he's town, he could just be defending me because of a scum read on you and accountant who were at the time attacking me.
Gamma, does this look like buddying to you, or am I just going crazy?
Buddying who?
Either Nyd buddying Pep
or Pep buddying Nyd.
Or both.
Alis you are looking for a thing to lach on atm, I don't see why. You have definetely succeded in taking the disscusion away from you.
I will say Ny, that I'm not really defending you. What I do is analyze you get a possibility of what you allingment is and then use the attack of Accountant and Alise to determine who imo is more likely to be a scum since I still belive one of them is and that is for me is Alis.
You know bote it's funny how you talk abou buddying when you are basically the one who does this from when you joined the game. First you buddy the IC who had a strong offence on another active player in Ny, then you saw me who was going against you and exactly when Gamma lynched me you started buddying him. What it seems you are doing is trying to get to the better people in the game and eliminate the "newer" players from behind there backs.
Yeah but Gamma why would you vote me down? Am I really the biggest threat right now? Also I still don't belive your motives on the lynch are really good. Would still like you to re-read some of the stuff.
