In post 571, nydushermain wrote:I read through a couple of D1s that accountant has been a part of. In one of them, someone got 5 votes by day 2 without him being able to retaliate. On another, I believe jailerkeeper got lynched over night.
Did you check D2 to see if the person who hammered got policy lynched the next day? Or check the role pms of the players that placed the 4th or 5th votes to see if they were scum quickhammering? Did you check Accountant's alignment in these games? This is you resorting to shade throwing onto Acc as soon as the wagon on you dissipates, when you claim you've just woken up and are maybe calmer? Why don't you take a step back and try to look at who else might be scum at this point?
In post 768, Alisae wrote:BTW Kyouko, if you hop on my wagon, I have a good feeling Nyd will hammer it even if it's at L-1.
I saw him talking about hammering the DBW slot because it was (is, as far as I've caught up) lurking but I think he was speaking out of frustration about lynching anyone. I doubt he would lynch his townreads, he seems to organize the game the way I do: push people one way or another away from a neutral line and be willing to compromise to lynch anyone who you aren't strongly TRing, even nulls, if necessary. Of course I'll keep working to sort nulls to get above my "lynch line" or figure out if they're likely scum but I think if pepchoninga, for example, were L-1 at this point he would not hammer pep. Pep's one of his strongest TRs where I'm reading
What makes you think I'm going to hop on your wagon out of curiosity? Did you do something naughty I haven't read yet?
Because for some reason people think I'm scum. Also I don't think Nyd would hammer Pep because of this:
In post 618, Alisae wrote:Also Nyd, let me ask you another question. As scum, what is your opinion in bussing your partner? Have you ever done it before?
In video mafia yes. I don't think I've ever rolled scum on forum before though. I would never bus a partner if I only had 1 though unless it was a LYLO/MYLO situation.
Also look at the timestamps as well. I think they're like all less then a minute.
I've got context now. Looks like he sees Accountant vote an inactive and decides it will be ok to park his vote on an inactive as well. Common scum tactic to stall for time by both of them, but Accountant's vote actually makes sense (Mewtaph was here to talk in RVS but now that there's a big cockfight in the middle of the thread he's nowhere to be seen), whereas nyd's vote is just because DBW lurking without context. Charloux's vote is also sitting there now, but I'm not fully caught up yet. I assume he hasn't posted in the last few pages if there's a request to prod him out though. Didn't like Charloux's line asking about why do people always SR him in games. Some of those on-the-outskirts slots (DBW, Charloux, Gamma, by ascending order of activity) I'd want to hear from them. Gamma almost looks like he's posturing but I feel like I always think that about him and never read him right If we have to deadline lynch someone I'd do DBW but we have a couple of days to work with here. Oh I completely forgot about that Ramcius guy too. Will probably ISO him and Charloux after catchup because I feel like I got mixed signals from their early game and they didn't post much through the post I'm at now.
In post 682, Ramcius wrote:i just love how Gamma and Alisae try persuade people join Pep wagon without trying prove he's scum anymore, just begging lynch him
In post 684, Pepchoninga wrote:Ramicius problem is Alis and as it seems Gamma too don't actually have any good leads on me. Alis just want to push for a mysslinch. Gamma is either just hopping on it to see what happens or is scum himself.
Also let me remind you I haven't defended Nyd and if I did it definitely wasn't a buddy request. If I defneded him it was to get a stronger case on you and/or Accountat. You are just trying to pull something out of fingers.
Also you talk about Gamma like you are the best buddies and fight crime together. Are YOU buddying him, or are you both crime buddies. Since it didn't seem like he wanted to latch to somebody the way you have seen from the start of the game.
oh good I'm not the only one that reads Gamma this way at least. I do think it's his playstyle but I've only completed one game with him as town and never seen his scumgame
pedit: Posturing around the Accountant/ Nyd/ Pep/ Alisae fight, like trying to see which way the tide is turning before committing to something. I'm on my first read though so maybe I'm just noticing the rest of the players in the game less than these 4
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
In post 765, Alisae wrote:Also even tho I'm at L-2 and it's better to claim at L-1, much rather claim now.
VT.
huh? scared suddenly? and VT claim changes nothing, well, i lie, i prefer your lynch more now than anyone else (still would lynch DBW, if we run out of time), cause i don't want risk lose PR and we don't have any serious case
Ramicus I think you just have conf bias and you're just getting me distracted.
But if my lynch will get Pep and Nyd lynched, I'll fuckin take it.
Cuz they're my strongest scumreads.
In post 765, Alisae wrote:Also even tho I'm at L-2 and it's better to claim at L-1, much rather claim now.
VT.
If you know it's better to claim at L-1, why claim at L-2?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 782, Alisae wrote:Ramicus I think you just have conf bias and you're just getting me distracted.
But if my lynch will get Pep and Nyd lynched, I'll fuckin take it.
Cuz they're my strongest scumreads.
You just seem like your here to ruin my game lol.
You still haven't given any good evidence on me and the ones on Nyd are questionable too.
In post 782, Alisae wrote:Ramicus I think you just have conf bias and you're just getting me distracted.
But if my lynch will get Pep and Nyd lynched, I'll fuckin take it.
Cuz they're my strongest scumreads.
hm, what should i choose, someone claiming at L-2, when at L-3 was so confident not getting lynched, and giving VT claim, which literally means nothing, or pretty much go blind and risk lynch PR? Yes, i'm biased, but not that much as you, when tried force me vote Pep for his sarcasm towards, twice to be exact
In post 790, Alisae wrote:Also Ram. Here's an assignment: Go re-read Pep's ISO and then tell me exactly what you think of him.
I don't have clear read on him, and i say one more time - i lynch VT claim at L-2 over blind shot, also, i don't buy all that "i was confident to attract night kill", you wouldn't claimed now with 1 more vote, and i don't see why mafia would kill you over me pr Accountant
In post 790, Alisae wrote:Also Ram. Here's an assignment: Go re-read Pep's ISO and then tell me exactly what you think of him.
I don't have clear read on him, and i say one more time - i lynch VT claim at L-2 over blind shot, also, i don't buy all that "i was confident to attract night kill", you wouldn't claimed now with 1 more vote, and i don't see why mafia would kill you over me pr Accountant
In post 790, Alisae wrote:Also Ram. Here's an assignment: Go re-read Pep's ISO and then tell me exactly what you think of him.
I don't have clear read on him, and i say one more time - i lynch VT claim at L-2 over blind shot, also, i don't buy all that "i was confident to attract night kill", you wouldn't claimed now with 1 more vote, and i don't see why mafia would kill you over me pr Accountant
In post 794, Alisae wrote:I am forcing you to take a stance on Pep.
And that whole sentence that you posted.
hm, if you really wanted get nk N1, you wouldn't claimed VT at L-2, so i call that bs, and i don't see mafia going after you, i guessing it's me or Accountant getting killed
and you can't force me take stance on Pep, you lost all credibility on him in my eyes, when you forced me vote him for being sarcastic
In post 797, Ramcius wrote:and you can't force me take stance on Pep, you lost all credibility on him in my eyes, when you forced me vote him for being sarcastic
No, I am forcing you to take a stance.
If it helps re-read his ISO.