Mini Normal 1861: Musical Mafia (TOWN WIN)

-Grey- · Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:07 am

In post 906, massive wrote:There's an awful lot of "I would vote massive again today but oh how wrong my reads were yesterday" going on.

True. We should remedy that.

VOTE: massive

Kairal · Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:16 pm

Dierfire is probably my single top top read. All his posts make sense, feel like they add new content and he even explains who he's voting for this makes it easy to read him town. I'm not remotely inclined to lynch him for his predecessor.

Shadow what were you hoping to achieve with your reaction test? You just asked a few questions afterwards. Give us something we can work with. Reads, votes, reasons whatever.

Anyway We still have 2 days after this even if massive is town so on balance I think we should just lynch him to be sure.

massive · Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:20 pm

Did you just say "even if massive is town we should lynch him"?

Secret Agent Jin · Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:37 pm

In post 927, massive wrote:Did you just say "even if massive is town we should lynch him"?

I mean, when you think about it, that sounds like a good plan Kairal has.

-Grey- · Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:48 pm

Lulz.

VOTE: Jin

Kairal · Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:48 pm

I'm saying I think you're scum and if I'm wrong it's not like an insta lose or anything.

Kairal · Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:51 pm

Alhough... it is weird that Jin thought that was a good plan. Nobody ever likes my plans.

Kairal · Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:00 pm

Aha I just refreshed the other mafia game I'm in to see someone say to me 'tbf that's a great plan'. I guess sometimes people do like my plans

Kairal · Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:03 pm

Anyway I guess we have like 10 days for this. No need for me to rush into a massive lynch. I'll unvote for now

UNVOTE: massive

Secret Agent Jin · Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 929, -Grey- wrote:Lulz.

VOTE: Jin

Lulz

Dierfire · Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:17 pm

It's weird and anticlimactic to say so, but after reading again I don't see any vote that immediately strikes as

better

than a vote for Secret Agent Jin. Given the interactions that I reviewed earlier (656), I think that for Secret Agent Jin to be Mafia would require a number of players to be Town (Flubbernugget, MiniDeathStar, Kairal, Aj The Epic). Of those, after reading again I still feel confident about Aj The Epic and Kairal, moderately confident about MiniDeathStar, and less confident about Flubbernugget. Given also that I am independently reading Shadow_step (formerly CloudKicker) as Town, this leaves me with weird hodgepodge POE teams, but I don't really have a lot of...well, it's some concept similar to degrees of freedom, I just can't think how to phrase it...to contemplate teams in which Secret Agent Jin is Town because I rate culted at least as likely to be Town as Flubbernugget is.

I don't really even have many questions to ask either, which is also weird. I'm going to work very hard on reading the rest of the game again and massive in particular because I don't feel like I have a good handle on this.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #936 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:34 am

Interesting you didn't include me as a player that would have to be town if Jin is town since I've pushed Jin more than anybody not named culted. Which interestingly enough you didn't mention him either...

Care to explain why?

I Am Innocent · Post Post #937 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:58 am

In post 936, I Am Innocent wrote:Interesting you didn't include me as a player that would have to be town if Jin is
town
scum since I've pushed Jin more than anybody not named culted. Which interestingly enough you didn't mention him either...

Care to explain why?

Typo fixed

Flubbernugget · Post Post #938 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:02 am

In post 920, MiniDeathStar wrote:Obviously your fantasy scum team makes no sense because I'm on it and I'm town. But even assuming I'm scum, it still makes no sense and I explained why.

It's counterproductive to speculate on scum pairs without knowing at least one scum and you know that. You have a decent chance of being wrong about one scumread, and even a bigger chance of being wrong about two. This is without mentioning that scum deliberately play in a way to hide their connections and create false associations with townies. I'm not scumreading you for dreaming up teams, but I don't think it's in any way helpful, especially since you're wrong.

Where have I ever said I have these reads as some sort of and interwoven scum team

These are independent reads and I have no clue what the fuck you're going on about

Flubbernugget · Post Post #939 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:05 am

In post 929, -Grey- wrote:Lulz.

VOTE: Jin

I mean it's good that you're voting my scum read but I'm actually curious why you didn't like what jin said

-Grey- · Post Post #940 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:16 am

In post 939, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 929, -Grey- wrote:Lulz.

VOTE: Jin
I mean it's good that you're voting my scum read but I'm actually curious why you didn't like what jin said

It's a convenient excuse to support the lynch of a player without having to be pinned into a scumread on them.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #941 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:57 am

Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (4)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive L-2 ,

massive (2)

Aj The Epic , -Grey- ,

Not Voting (4)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Aj The Epic · Post Post #942 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:20 am

In post 936, I Am Innocent wrote:Interesting you didn't include me as a player that would have to be town if Jin is town since I've pushed Jin more than anybody not named culted. Which interestingly enough you didn't mention him either...

Care to explain why?

I'm actually pretty sure Kairal doesn't have a scum read on Jin and I definitely don't (haven't voted for him all game and really haven't floated the idea either).

mhsmith0 · Post Post #943 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:32 am

EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

In post 941, mhsmith0 wrote:
Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)
ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)
culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)
Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)
Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!
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massive · Post Post #944 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:29 am

Well is he L-1 or is it really 5 to lynch? Sweet correction bro. (11 alive, despite the front page listing 12, which makes it six.)

-Grey- · Post Post #945 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:31 am

I'm so lost.

An accurate VC would be awesome.

Secret Agent Jin · Post Post #946 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:32 am

Im pretty sure thats a lynch no? Takes 5 to lynch and i have 5. Unless it takes 6 in which then i will role claim

-Grey- · Post Post #947 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:36 am

Just claim, either way your role is coming out regardless.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #948 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:36 am

In post 943, mhsmith0 wrote:EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

In post 941, mhsmith0 wrote:
Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)
ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)
culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)
Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)
Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!
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Jesus I suck. 11 alive six to lynch. Sorry for fucking that up.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #949 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:37 am

In post 948, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 943, mhsmith0 wrote:EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

In post 941, mhsmith0 wrote:
Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)
ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)
culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)
Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)
Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!
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