Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]


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Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:13 am

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In post 2483, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm holding on to the loved spell because I am town and I can't be sure of anyone else being town and so the most pro-town thing to do is keep it to try and make it more likely that I don't get lynched

if I live through the Day I will pass it back to NC most likely
In post 2485, drealmerz7 wrote:2 left
who are the 2
me and? ??? ??????? exactly...

sooo, get off my wagon already!!!!

it's some combo of BAT+PK+BTD6
Worth noting, if he thought all scum were in {BATORU, pisskop, BTD6} then by PoE everyone else must be town.

This is not genuine.
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Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:25 am

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but I'm town BAT...haha

put that in your equation please
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Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:27 am

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that isn't a response to your simultaneous uncertainty that others are town, and that scum must be in BATORU/pisskop/BTD.
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Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:29 am

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I never said MUST BE

it's my read, I was giving it again
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Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:44 am

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In post 2499, BATORU wrote:what?

Ok I need to ask whether you guys know what loved means. It means you take one extra vote to be lynched. NC legit can't hammer without you being on there.
You didn't read my statement if you're asking this question. Here it is again:
In post 2480, Prism wrote:Do you realize if you successfully get drealm lynched without me on it then it's a guaranteed mislynch?
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Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:47 am

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In post 2481, Not Chara wrote:that said, can you explain it to me? i don't see why it's impossible for a buddy of dreal's to be bussing him, and working through this sort of logic in my head isn't a strong suite.
Keep in mind it takes 6 votes (with 6 town alive) to lynch Drealm. There's not really any reason to bus Drealm if I'm not willing to lynch them. No townsperson will be left off on it except me, and I already can't be scum with Drealm. (As I can only be scum with BTD6)

Bussing Drealm here as scum without me being willing to lynch him is legitimately stupid.
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Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:49 am

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In post 2499, BATORU wrote:From the latest vote count. There are 2 scum remaining. What this means is we need 6/8 (ie all remaining townies) to vote drealmerz for his lynch to go through, or scum to know it's not going through because he's loved so they sit there to soft bus, in which case we still need 5/6 remaining townies to hop on and see who hops off or force the partner to hard bus.
Oh jeez you even explained my statement immediately afterward.
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Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 2505, Prism wrote:
In post 2481, Not Chara wrote:that said, can you explain it to me? i don't see why it's impossible for a buddy of dreal's to be bussing him, and working through this sort of logic in my head isn't a strong suite.
Keep in mind it takes 6 votes (with 6 town alive) to lynch Drealm. There's not really any reason to bus Drealm if I'm not willing to lynch them. No townsperson will be left off on it except me, and I already can't be scum with Drealm. (As I can only be scum with BTD6)

Bussing Drealm here as scum without me being willing to lynch him is legitimately stupid.
Which is why you should be voting drealm.

I really don't follow what you're saying unless you're saying you're never voting drealm? In which case you're guaranteeing that we never get scum lynched today, because it's between BTD and drealm and I don't think BTD is scum here with Dunnstral. I keep remembering the attempt to get Dunnstral to say something about the doc spell which just doesn't make sense for scum!BTD.
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Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:21 pm

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Like, do you realize that Not Chara was threatening to hammer when drealmerz was at L-2, not L-1?
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Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:35 pm

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still town
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Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:43 pm

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It may be true that we need six people to lynch Drealmerz, but consider the implications.

Many are assuming that all Town need to be on this lynch because there is no gain for scum bussing. Under this logic, scum need to bus. If this were true and Drealmerz flipped scum, we could identify the scum by the one not on the wagon. Indeed, the optimal way for scum to play is to vote Drealmerz with the same probability that a Townie would. If Drealmerz is going to be lynched today and scum know that, this is a probability of 6/7 of needing to bus at some point. This is rough, but scum have an incentive to bus.

Thus we do not need all Town to lynch Drealmerz, just any six people. We can still do it without Prism, only I would highly recommend Prism to join. Either way, the Drealmerz flip will explain a lot. If it is scum (and I am expecting that) we can analyse the wagon (albeit knowing that scum may bus). Scum will have essentially guarantee the lynch of a scumbuddy (which is possible but not quite certain) in order to reduce the risk of them getting caught tomorrow.
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Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:46 pm

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wow, what a helpful post!!! you're soooo town!!! *sarcasm*
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Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:49 pm

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6 townies are never going to be voting me, for those that can't figure that out
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Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:03 pm

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True. That doesn't mean 5 Townies and a scum would be voting you. Loved does not mean Lynchproof.
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Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:08 pm

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Alright I've read and read and read until my head hurts, all to no avail. I think this lynch is a coinflip. I kind of just want to get nightkilled and move along with my life.

VOTE: Drealmerz
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Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:20 pm

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In post 2513, BTD6_maker wrote:True. That doesn't mean 5 Townies and a scum would be voting you. Loved does not mean Lynchproof.
why are you saying this

I was just saying what I said (because I'm town), there is no need for this ^ oh wait, it shows you're scum

UGH PRISM NOOOO, wrong choice!!! switch it to btd!
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Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:21 pm

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talk to me prism
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Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:36 pm

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In post 2515, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2513, BTD6_maker wrote:True. That doesn't mean 5 Townies and a scum would be voting you. Loved does not mean Lynchproof.
why are you saying this

I was just saying what I said (because I'm town), there is no need for this ^ oh wait, it shows you're scum

UGH PRISM NOOOO, wrong choice!!! switch it to btd!
Why keep repeating "because I'm town"? You do realise that has no weight whatsoever as you are not confTown.

Do you expect everyone else to agree that you are obvTown and that I am obvscum? No one else (except likely scum partners) has read your Role PM. No one else (apart from them) knows your alignment.

In this post you have said nothing useful, disguising it as something meaningful.
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Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:55 am

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dreal...not looking good for you. You need some compelling posting if you want to avoid your lynch today...even with the loved spell. I think you are at L-2 with the -2 equaling NC and AJ, who have both expressed willingness to vote you.

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Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:16 am

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going to start popping out some quotes I think are possibly telling / meaningful:
In post 57, Dunnstral wrote:I'm ready for another exciting game of "is BTD6 town"

Seems like in the past I've been scum where they were town 2-3 times and the one time I was town they were a mason
In post 197, Not Chara wrote:dreal: i understand why you voted BTD there. however, i'd suggest looking elsewhere. i'd prefer not to explain why at this time.
did you ever explain this?

[quote="In post 198, Dunnstral
Not Chara wrote:dreal: i understand why you voted BTD there. however, i'd suggest looking elsewhere. i'd prefer not to explain why at this time.
lol[/quote]
what's that 'lol' about I wonder>?
In post 350, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game

This guy is scum and drealmer can die too
In post 626, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 625, Sondam wrote:What do you think of BTD Dunn?
~M
Looks like town BTD6 and I usually peg them as town one way or another when I'm town

When I'm scum I usually end up pushing him... and I'd assume scum could be pushing him this game. Hey wait a minute-

Wouldn't lynch him today
In post 656, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 654, Sondam wrote:I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.
Thought I was scum though?
In post 805, Dunnstral wrote:You're calling yourself mislynch bait and calling someone else out

Meanwhile you're voting actual mislynch bait
referring to BTD6
In post 1180, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1175, drealmerz7 wrote:Dunnstral has done almost nothing but focus on ironstove, sondam, and GE, the ENTIRE game. Over and over and over, it's just those 3. Sure, he engages others, but it feels like he wants to push an agenda on any of those 3.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Almost like I think two of those are scum

And the third is a chatterbox
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Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:17 am

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I think my vote on dunn put him at L-2 too - not a scum-move
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Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:19 am

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there's a lot of back and forth between pk and dunn and I swing back and forth thinking it's 2 buddies or not, but I lean towards them NOT being buddies atm from my re-readings

cept that is a 'lol' from dunnstral when pk votes him that seems off to me "like haha buddy you voted for me" or something?
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Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:13 pm

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So we're forcing the no lynch?

@Nahdia can we get 24 hours extension to compensate for Christmas Day?
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Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:17 pm

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In post 2522, BATORU wrote:So we're forcing the no lynch?

@Nahdia can we get 24 hours extension to compensate for Christmas Day?
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Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:17 pm

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