Mini 1863: Voting Mafia (Abandoned)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: The MM
VOTE: The MM
HURT: Eggman
HEAL: zefiend
Back end is better IMO.

[KainTepes]

OK,, i dont mind switching my votes around,,

VOTE: THE_MM
HURT: zefriend
HEAL: JasonWazza

[JasonWazza]

So wasn't expecting that lynch to have gone off so soon, so much for the vote's reseting, i knew the game was bastard but that feels like a bit much.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's not bastard, just swingy as fuck.

[ɀefiend]

Lol. Sorry drealmerz but you died for a good cause. You were basically worthless anyway having only a half vote. Anyway, this guy is so scum:

VOTE: Dreal
VOTE: Eggman
HURT: Gamma
HEAL: Realeo

I think its entirely possible that Dreal could be hammered soon being at H-1 and that would be too early in the game. So i rather let him defend himself some more before we make a decision.

Except that voting someone who you think is at L-1 is actually hammering them and not allowing him to defend at all.

Just as i was posting to save Dreal from a hammer, it happens. Seriously?

You were not posting to save him; literally the first portion of your post is a vote for him.

SAJ that post doesn't even make any sense in response to what I said

or, any sense, really...

You said defend aganst what? There is no case on me. I was trying to buy you time to say whatever you wanted to in order try to get people to back off your wagon.

That is the reason i took a vote off you.

Everyone deserves a chance to try to shed votes.

Except that you literally put a vote on him.

In my experience, NK outrage is often faked by scum. Not a definitive claim to what Not_Mafia is but just throwing the statement out there.

Wishy-washy up the wazoo.

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin
HURT: bulletnlynchproof
HEAL: zefiend

[Secret Agent Jin]

If you iso me you will actually see that my vote previously was fully on Dreal. The next vote i made WAS pulling my vote off Dreal and onto Eggman. I previously had my full vote on Dreal and the vote you qouted would have pulled half of it off of him leaving him at L-1/2.

[ɀefiend]

So you're claiming half-weight like drealmerz?

[Gamma Emerald]

No he's a half weight doublevoter.

[BNL]

VOTE: The MM
VOTE: The MM
HURT: Eggman
HEAL: zefiend
Back end is better IMO.

OK,, i dont mind switching my votes around,,

VOTE: THE_MM
HURT: zefriend
HEAL: JasonWazza

You got the votes the wrong way round.

VOTE: zefiend
HURT: Eggman
HEAL: Tywin

[BNL]

I mean, zefiend hammered drealmerz7 out of the blue, which should be an instant lynch. All he said was "drealmerz was pinging me", "This is a bastard game", which are all not excuses for lolhammering.

Unless zefiend can give me a very good reason my primary vote will be staying there.

[The MM]

NK is bullshit

How?

N1 Sensor dies N1

In my experience, NK outrage is often faked by scum. Not a definitive claim to what Not_Mafia is but just throwing the statement out there.

Say it's scummy or not, stick to a stance.

This is nonsense, it's a scum tell that town also do regularly, why should he have to choose a blanket stance instantly?

Raging because PR died Night 1 will lead us nowhere. There's something called luck, and we have to deal with it.

Thing is, I was still in RVS when the hammer happened, so I cannot see how I'm being blamed for the wagon that zefiend hammered.

VOTE: zefiend
VOTE: zefend
HURT: KainTepes
HEAL: Not_Mafia

It's more vote-parking than anything else here -- for the mostpart.

[JasonWazza]

It's not bastard, just swingy as fuck.

I'm refering to the "dawn votes will be reset once day 1 starts" which was a mod lie, which makes this bastard.

[Secret Agent Jin]

It's not bastard, just swingy as fuck.

I'm refering to the "dawn votes will be reset once day 1 starts" which was a mod lie, which makes this bastard.

But before dawn was over he publicly said that they would stay. It wasnt a mod lie.

VOTE: Zefiend
VOTE: Zefiend
HURT: Not_Mafia
HEAL: Gamma

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #2

BTD6_Maker
Vote (1) - BTD6_Maker
Hurt (1) - BTD6_Maker
Heal (1) - BTD6_Maker
BulletNLynchproof
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - Zefiend
Heal (0) -
Secret Agent Jin
Vote (1) - Zefiend
Hurt (0) -
Heal (0) -
The MM
Vote (2) - Gamma, Kain
Hurt (0) -
Heal (0) -
Eggman
Vote (1) - Eggman
Hurt (3) - Eggman, Gamma, Bullet
Heal (1) - Eggman
Gamma Emerald
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (1) - Jin
Tywin Lannister
Vote (1) - Tywin
Hurt (1) - Tywin
Heal (2) - Tywin, Bullet
JasonWazza
Vote (1) - Jason
Hurt (1) - Jason
Heal (2) - Jason, Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote (1) - Not_Mafia
Hurt (2) - Not_Mafia, Jin
Heal (2) - Not_Mafia, The MM
KainTepes
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - The MM
Heal (0) -
ɀefiend
Vote (3) (H-3) - Bullet, The MM, Jin
Hurt (1) - Kain
Heal (2) - Gamma, Zefiend

Hammer Threshold

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer!

Deadline

Day 2 ends on January 15, 2017 5:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2017-01-15 17:30:00).

Mod Notes

1 day added for New Year.
Moderator V/LA December 31.
BTD6_Maker V/LA December 26 to January 5.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (as determined by the moderator) is expected every 4 days.

Eggman V/LA for up to 2 weeks.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (mod discretion) is expected every 4 days.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that there is a decent chance that errors will make their way into VCs. If you notice anything wrong, please inform me asap. (Note: The voting history will likely be the more accurate of the two)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Bullet
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Tywin
Jin
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Not_Mafia
Heal: Gamma
The MM
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Not_Mafia
Gamma
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Zefiend
Kain
Vote: Not_Mafia --> The MM
Hurt: Jason --> Zefiend
Heal: The MM --> Jason
Zefiend
Vote: Jin
Hurt: Bullet
Heal: Zefiend

Spoiler: Past Voting History

Dawn/Day 1

BTD6_Maker
Vote: Jason
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Bullet
Bullet
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> BTD6_Maker
Hurt: Vedith --> Kain
Heal: Kain --> Tywin
Jin
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Gamma
Heal: Realeo
The MM
Vote: Drealm / Kain
Hurt: Tywin
Heal: Not_Mafia

Realeo
Vote: Tywin --> Eggman
Hurt: Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Bullet --> Jason

Eggman
Vote: Gamma --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> Bullet
Heal: Jin --> Eggman
Gamma
Vote: Eggman
Hurt: Jason
Heal: Kain
Tywin
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Vedith
Heal: Eggman
Jason
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> BTD6_Maker
Heal: Drealm --> Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Jin
Kain
Vote: Gamma --> Tywin --> Not_Mafia
Hurt: Jason --> Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Kain --> Gamma --> Gamma
Zefiend
Vote: Tywin --> Drealm
Hurt: Gamma --> Realeo
Heal: Zefiend --> Zefiend

[Eggman]

It's not bastard, just swingy as fuck.

I'm refering to the "dawn votes will be reset once day 1 starts" which was a mod lie, which makes this bastard.

Uhh, Ircher made a post explicitly saying he was actually going to keep the votes?
VOTE: JasonWazza
HURT: Jin
HEAL: Eggman

[Eggman]

ninjad even, fucker, that's crazy messed up btw

lynch zefiend if I am actually hammered and dead

Anyone agree with this, or should we push it to the side..?

[BNL]

^Yes, zefiend needs to die. He quickhammered.

What happened to the activity in this thread

Zefiend still needs to explain why he quickhammered if he is town. I also need Tywin to answer me.

[The MM]

Zefiend just pulled the scummiest move anyone could make imo.

This stands out even amongst the other votes I could find suspicious: SAJ, Jason, Eggman and Not_Mafia.

Since I'm unsatisfied with Kain, I'll keep my HURT: KainTepes. From his ISO alone, I get an idea that he's very uncommunicative.

[JasonWazza]

It's not bastard, just swingy as fuck.

I'm refering to the "dawn votes will be reset once day 1 starts" which was a mod lie, which makes this bastard.

Uhh, Ircher made a post explicitly saying he was actually going to keep the votes?
VOTE: JasonWazza
HURT: Jin
HEAL: Eggman

I'll be honest, i missed that, and had to look really hard to find that even now.

[JasonWazza]

What happened to the activity in this thread

This time of year is filled with family and shit for a lot of people.

Hell this will be the first time i am able to make a decent post, and probably one of the last ones until after new years is done.

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: Zefiend
HURT: Secret Agent Jin
HEAL: Tywin Lannister

[ɀefiend]

OK I liked Jin's response, although he is still missing the fact that this game is explicitly bastard.

@BnLp, I know that gunning for the quick-hammering player is normal meta on this site, but you should understand two things:
1) This is a bastard game. As such, I don't take it as seriously. Hence the YOLO hammer.
2) This is an

Ircher

bastard game. I dunno if you have any experience with that but I played in a recent one called Defiance and it was a total crapshoot dice roll (and horribly balanced). Hence even more YOLO mindset.

Now, on to the specific hammer in question. Drealmerz was over fluffing, IMO, during pregame. Apparently his Town meta is a bunch of blithering angst towards anyone who fails to align themselves with his lucid interpretation of a very unusual game. I also decided to hammer partly because of the game type. If drealmerz was scum I'd look like a god and Eggman would also probably be clear (if scum is a group and drealmerz flipped a faction scum). Drealmerz was town but at least he wasn't an important role, and there is some activity ripe for analysis with respect to peoples' current pushes. That post is coming soon™

[JasonWazza]

I know that gunning for the quick-hammering player is normal meta on this site, but you should understand two things:
1) This is a bastard game. As such, I don't take it as seriously. Hence the YOLO hammer.
2) This is an

Ircher

bastard game. I dunno if you have any experience with that but I played in a recent one called Defiance and it was a total crapshoot dice roll (and horribly balanced). Hence even more YOLO mindset.

Exactly why are you playing this game then?

[ɀefiend]

For what it's worth, the immediate post before Day 1 start was edited on Dec 24 to let everyone know that the votes would be carried over instead of being reset, but Day 1 actually began on Dec 22

The game being bastard is why mod errors/nonchalance/lying don't matter and also why I don't mind being lynched too badly.

Since I might be at L-1 or maybe even dead already, here are my reads:

One scum probably avoided going for the obvious push on me straight out of the Day start to get some town cred when I flip. Guesses: Gamma or Eggman. They could easily hammer me now, I suppose.

The other scum is probably someone taking the easy route of sticking to site meta of lynching quick-hammering automatic (despite this being the totally wrong game to apply this to). Guesses obviously BnLp or MM.

Or I could be completely wrong and KT and BTD are scum and relaxing and enjoying the shit show. I wouldn't even be mad.

My vote is double weight, also. Hopefully Heal means what I think it means.

[Eggman]

VOTE: The MM
HURT: zefiend
HEAL: Eggman

I've been mulling this over for a bit. So I got a PM last night as my role as a Day 2 Census Taker, and while I don't know exactly what it means it says "1/2". My hypothesis right now is that this is how many scum votes were on drealmerz yesterday.

VOTE: Drealmerz
VOTE: KainTepes
HURT: Tylin
HEAL: Not_Mafia

I will setup spec when I have more time.
PS: Tywin, OMGUS lol

The MM's vote was only half on Drealmerz when he was hammered.