Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)
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I wasn't in a hurry.In post 408, bangthemafia wrote:
@Kop, can you explain? Also why is spade an obv scum to you?In post 80, Kop wrote:VOTE: Spade Ace
Obvious scum.
If Bang reads this thread backwards, I want him autolynched
@LUV, why are you in a hurry to announce that RVS is over? That sounded a bit odd though NAI.In post 89, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:And with what looks like the first serious vote casted, RVS is now officially over.
UNVOTE:
Why is Alisae your top SR?In post 88, Hawk wrote:Early reads are still a little rough since alot of these feels like nonsense to me. But serious vote.
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Why does it seem like everyone doesn't like this?In post 413, bangthemafia wrote:
This is quite a fast U turn. Scumreading Hawk at the end of page 5 for this though on page 5, I liked Hawk's #116.In post 106, Hawk wrote:
Fair enough. Townread Alisae. I may have tried to move us out of RVS fairly quickly as this is my first forum mafia game and I'm a bit excited to play lol.In post 105, Alisae wrote: You're trying to get us out of RVS. Scum feel super uncomfortable in RVS.
UNVOTE: Alisae
Also agree with Malakittens' #124. In RVS, FoS are flying around everywhere. Scum is not happy with this. They wibe happy to buddy up with some and decrease circle of suspicion. That also gives them some townie points. So at the end of pg 5, LUV is under my FoS, as is Hawk and I soft-townread Malakittens for this
Maybe it's just me and how I'm used to playing Mafia but gauging a reaction from everyone by casting the first "serious" vote is how I was taught to play.
I serioused Alisae to see what happened. LUV unvoted and asked why. Kop unvoted. I responded in a general to get a reaction post. Aelin unvoted. Aubrey responded with thoughts. Mala rolled her eyes and said she'd be back later most importantly Alisae finally responds and actually engages me. I read her as town since most of my scum read was fluff and gut and like that she engages me. Even say this is all soft. I (to myself) Note that CD and Spade did not get involved in this section. So next I casually drop some soft reads and throw CD there to see if he will respond...
Do people not do this during RVS? Quiet town is dead town. If no one has made any scum tells or said anything questionable probe people with even the smallest of scum nudges. I suppose to most it might seem sporadic and scummy but I just wanted to start conversation. I even mention that maybe I was hasty to throw this around since it's my first forum game.
Still as it stands I felt like we got a lot of useful information out of that early RVS transition...
FWIW I'm still leaning Mala and CD as scum. They still haven't provided much content or analysis. I know Mala is working but I don't know why CD hasn't said much.-
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Hawk when did I protest?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Protest what? My early play? You didnt. First sentence was a Hyperbole.In post 430, Malakittens wrote:Hawk when did I protest?
You protested the read list later which for me was more a soft list and more a way to bring you and CD into the conversation.
Speaking of which still no substantial reads right? Any thing standing out or wanting elaboration on?-
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Considering I just posted yesterday in regards to my reads I doubt anything would change in less than 24 hrsNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Also I didn't protest your reads list. I didn't have a problem with you posting it. I had a prOnly which the reads itselfNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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@Aubrey, thanks a lot for teaching that Spoiler= tag. I also almost committed the same mistake.
Sorry guys, I have been really busy. Could read till page 8. Will soon read rest and post my thoughts.
Comments on page 6,
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On page 8,
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My Summary-
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Aubrey, Kop, Kaines strong town lean
Hawk, Mala Null to slight town lean
IV, Alissae scum lean
Aelin, LUV, CD, Spade Null-
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On page 9,
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On page 10,
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On page 11,
Nothing special. Except KT shouting "I M TOWN" again and again.
My Summary-
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Aubrey, Kop, CD (mainly due to Jin) strong town lean
Hawk, Mala, LUV Null to slight town lean
IV, Alissae scum lean
Aelin, Spade, Kaines (due to LUV's research on KT's playstyle not ruling out scumplay) are all Null-
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WTF. Why would a town!you do that?In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
By the way I always find this whole "reaction testing" too convenient afterthought!-
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I m in the middle of page 12, and dont even want to complete the page lest I forget my thoughts. Noticed these posts-
In post 276, Aubrey wrote:In post 245, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Thanks KT!
So Kain as scum pushes things that are more NAI like activity and uses a lot of ATE. More than most people think he does. He also uses the "If I was scum, why would I _____?" excuse which is always a scum tell in my book.
As town, he actually pushes things that are scummy. In a town game he just linked, I recall him voting someone for attempting to rolefish and putting pressure on someone for ignoring him and not his answering questions. He also asks questions that seem to move the game forward.
Of course, this is off a 10 minute skim so should probably be taken with a grain of a salt.
If Kain is well known about being able to slip around people as scum, why would Scum Uzi hint to Scum KT to play his town game in order to not get caught? He even mentions this in post 142.In post 249, Alisae wrote:Uzi, I can't help think that you're tellingUziKT "Hey, just play your town game and you won't get caught as scum."
??? What did you think she was sayingIn post 264, innocentvillager wrote:wait what
i misinterpreted your comment completely then
nvm not sure if i agree
Pretty sure this is his version of WASHING WATERIn post 274, Aelin wrote:
Kain it would be easier if you explained exactly what washing water is and why it makes innocent villager scummyIn post 248, KainTepes wrote:I AM TOWN,, and i hope you notice the WASHING WATER nature of innocent villager that is why i am VOTING HIM!!!!!!!!
In post 240, KainTepes wrote: thats what made me so sure NINOMASAKI was scum in the KIDS WITH GUNS game i linked. no strong views, she only ever says I THINK X MAY BE TOWN BUT NOT SURE or I THINK Y MAY BE SCUM BUT MAYBE NOT,, very washing water, VERY SUSPICIUOS!!!In post 278, Alisae wrote:
Is it just me, or does this post seem very opportunistic.In post 212, Spade_Ace wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager
Not liking his posts so far. They all seem ambiguous.In post 279, Alisae wrote:Now that I think abou it, has Spade really done anything to progress the game?
For me, this literally makes Alissae the most opportunistic player in this game. Its almost as if she builds a case, tries a wagon, sees if people are gonna sheep her, and if unsuccesful tries another case. From throwing suspicion on Hawk (but not voting), then Mala (while hanging her stand on Hawk on fence), then IV (coz he "discredited" those asking dumb questions and by that time Mala's wagon started fizzling out), also throwing suspicion on Uzi whether he is hinting to KT, and as soon as Aubrey showed the faulty logic of why Uzi would need to help KT, now suddenly she suspects Spade? For lurking? And so much that she votes him? This is super scummy to me. And if by the time I finish reading pafe 12-18, if I dont find anyone scummier, I am gonna put my vote on Alissae.In post 280, KainTepes wrote:
i get that feeling too,, he is also a water washerIn post 279, Alisae wrote:Now that I think abou it, has Spade really done anything to progress the game?-
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In post 440, bangthemafia wrote:
For me, this literally makes Alissae the most opportunistic player in this game. Its almost as if she builds a case, tries a wagon, sees if people are gonna sheep her, and if unsuccesful tries another case. From throwing suspicion on Hawk (but not voting), then Mala (while hanging her stand on Hawk on fence), then IV (coz he "discredited" those asking dumb questions and by that time Mala's wagon started fizzling out), also throwing suspicion on Uzi whether he is hinting to KT, and as soon as Aubrey showed the faulty logic of why Uzi would need to help KT, now suddenly she suspects Spade? For lurking? And so much that she votes him? This is super scummy to me. And if by the time I finish reading pafe 12-18, if I dont find anyone scummier, I am gonna put my vote on Alissae.-
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Why would scum!Alisae do this?In post 439, bangthemafia wrote:
WTF. Why would a town!you do that?In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
By the way I always find this whole "reaction testing" too convenient afterthought!| here.GTKAS-
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So basicly you find me scummy for being paranoid...In post 440, bangthemafia wrote:For me, this literally makes Alissae the most opportunistic player in this game. Its almost as if she builds a case, tries a wagon, sees if people are gonna sheep her, and if unsuccesful tries another case. From throwing suspicion on Hawk (but not voting), then Mala (while hanging her stand on Hawk on fence), then IV (coz he "discredited" those asking dumb questions and by that time Mala's wagon started fizzling out), also throwing suspicion on Uzi whether he is hinting to KT, and as soon as Aubrey showed the faulty logic of why Uzi would need to help KT, now suddenly she suspects Spade? For lurking? And so much that she votes him? This is super scummy to me. And if by the time I finish reading pafe 12-18, if I dont find anyone scummier, I am gonna put my vote on Alissae.| here.GTKAS-
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I was being sarcastic. Nobody can be obvious scum straight away.In post 408, bangthemafia wrote:
@Kop, can you explain? Also why is spade an obv scum to you?In post 80, Kop wrote:VOTE: Spade Ace
Obvious scum.
If Bang reads this thread backwards, I want him autolynched
I will get to this properly tomorrow.You'll Never Walk Alone!-
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It doesn't feel natural is more accurate I think.In post 443, Alisae wrote:
So basicly you find me scummy for being paranoid...In post 440, bangthemafia wrote:For me, this literally makes Alissae the most opportunistic player in this game. Its almost as if she builds a case, tries a wagon, sees if people are gonna sheep her, and if unsuccesful tries another case. From throwing suspicion on Hawk (but not voting), then Mala (while hanging her stand on Hawk on fence), then IV (coz he "discredited" those asking dumb questions and by that time Mala's wagon started fizzling out), also throwing suspicion on Uzi whether he is hinting to KT, and as soon as Aubrey showed the faulty logic of why Uzi would need to help KT, now suddenly she suspects Spade? For lurking? And so much that she votes him? This is super scummy to me. And if by the time I finish reading pafe 12-18, if I dont find anyone scummier, I am gonna put my vote on Alissae.-
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can you explain what you mean by this PLEASE,, what were you trying to set yourself up as LYNCH BAIT and what were you expecting to see??In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
if you say contradictory things, EVERYONE is going to push it,, how does that differentiate between town and scum?I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with KT and would like a response from Alisae.In post 446, KainTepes wrote:
can you explain what you mean by this PLEASE,, what were you trying to set yourself up as LYNCH BAIT and what were you expecting to see??In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
if you say contradictory things, EVERYONE is going to push it,, how does that differentiate between town and scum?
Right now between her Aelin and Spade I think there maybe one mafia.
Mala still hasn't said anything of substance so I still scumlean/read her but feel like my vote is wasted sitting down there despite KT's second. Can we get some pressure on Spade and or Alisae. Spade is at l-3 so I think this should help some.
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I'm all up for pressuring SPADE..... SPADE was always scum in all the games i played and his style of playing isnt different from the other games,,
VOTE: SPADEI AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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