Mini 1863: Voting Mafia (Abandoned)

[Eggman]

Oh, and if zefiend is a X2 voter it would explain why Drealmerz got hammered when he only had 6.5 votes on him!

[ɀefiend]

I know that gunning for the quick-hammering player is normal meta on this site, but you should understand two things:
1) This is a bastard game. As such, I don't take it as seriously. Hence the YOLO hammer.
2) This is an

Ircher

bastard game. I dunno if you have any experience with that but I played in a recent one called Defiance and it was a total crapshoot dice roll (and horribly balanced). Hence even more YOLO mindset.

Exactly why are you playing this game then?

Because Bastard games allow people to relax and not take everything so seriously... at least in theory.

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #3

BTD6_Maker
Vote (1) - BTD6_Maker
Hurt (1) - BTD6_Maker
Heal (1) - BTD6_Maker
BulletNLynchproof
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - Zefiend
Heal (0) -
Secret Agent Jin
Vote (1) - Zefiend
Hurt (1) - Jason
Heal (0) -
The MM
Vote (3) (H-3) - Gamma, Kain, Eggman
Hurt (0) -
Heal (0) -
Eggman
Vote (0) -
Hurt (2) - Gamma, Bullet
Heal (1) - Eggman
Gamma Emerald
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (1) - Jin
Tywin Lannister
Vote (1) - Tywin
Hurt (1) - Tywin
Heal (3) - Tywin, Bullet, Jason
JasonWazza
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (1) - Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote (1) - Not_Mafia
Hurt (2) - Not_Mafia, Jin
Heal (2) - Not_Mafia, The MM
KainTepes
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - The MM
Heal (0) -
ɀefiend

Vote (4) (H-2) - Bullet, The MM, Jin, Jason

Hurt (2) - Kain, Eggman
Heal (2) - Gamma, Zefiend

Hammer Threshold

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer!

Deadline

Day 2 ends on January 15, 2017 5:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2017-01-15 17:30:00).

Mod Notes

1 day added for New Year.
Moderator V/LA December 31.
BTD6_Maker V/LA December 26 to January 5.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (as determined by the moderator) is expected every 4 days.

Eggman V/LA for up to 2 weeks.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (mod discretion) is expected every 4 days.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that there is a decent chance that errors will make their way into VCs. If you notice anything wrong, please inform me asap. (Note: The voting history will likely be the more accurate of the two).
Ignoring 167.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Bullet
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Tywin
Jin
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Not_Mafia
Heal: Gamma
The MM
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Not_Mafia
Eggman
Vote: Jason --> The MM
Hurt: Jin --> Zefiend
Heal: Eggman == Eggman
Gamma
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Zefiend
Jason
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Jin
Heal: Tywin
Kain
Vote: Not_Mafia --> The MM
Hurt: Jason --> Zefiend
Heal: The MM --> Jason
Zefiend
Vote: Jin
Hurt: Bullet
Heal: Zefiend

Spoiler: Past Voting History

Dawn/Day 1

BTD6_Maker
Vote: Jason
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Bullet
Bullet
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> BTD6_Maker
Hurt: Vedith --> Kain
Heal: Kain --> Tywin
Jin
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Gamma
Heal: Realeo
The MM
Vote: Drealm / Kain
Hurt: Tywin
Heal: Not_Mafia

Realeo
Vote: Tywin --> Eggman
Hurt: Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Bullet --> Jason

Eggman
Vote: Gamma --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> Bullet
Heal: Jin --> Eggman
Gamma
Vote: Eggman
Hurt: Jason
Heal: Kain
Tywin
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Vedith
Heal: Eggman
Jason
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> BTD6_Maker
Heal: Drealm --> Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Jin
Kain
Vote: Gamma --> Tywin --> Not_Mafia
Hurt: Jason --> Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Kain --> Gamma --> Gamma
Zefiend
Vote: Tywin --> Drealm
Hurt: Gamma --> Realeo
Heal: Zefiend --> Zefiend

[KainTepes]

more votes on THE MM please,,

[Gamma Emerald]

zefiend is lying about his doublevote for some reason

[KainTepes]

what does that mean, GAMMA?

[Gamma Emerald]

It jeans I want the truth.

[Gamma Emerald]

It means I want the truth.

EBWOP

[KainTepes]

you mean he's lying he has doublevote or lying that he has no doublevote,, sorry i got confuse

[Eggman]

Gamma, do you know that as a fact, or is it just strong intuition? Why would there be any reason to pretend you have a double vote?

[ɀefiend]

zefiend is lying about his doublevote for some reason

I never said I had a doublevote. I said my vote (all of them, actually) have weight 2. I can't split them.

[Gamma Emerald]

zefiend is lying about his doublevote for some reason

I never said I had a doublevote. I said my vote (all of them, actually) have weight 2. I can't split them.

Why doesn't it say so in the VC?

[ɀefiend]

Game rules (post 0):

7. This game utilizes hidden vote weights; a hammer causes votes to no longer be counted; however, it is possible for a different player to be lynched. The hammering threshold is equal to floor( 50% of players ) + 1. Only votes cast with the vote tag count when determining if a player is hammered.

[Gamma Emerald]

Got it. So it counts number of votes.

[ɀefiend]

Holy shit I missed that census taker post by Eggman. Anyways, I'm fairly sure MM is scum now. Found a nice little gem of evidence (despite MM ISO only being 4 posts):

In this post, MM says he doesn't understand why he's being blamed for drealmerz lynch. Fair enough. The two people voting him at that time were Gamma and Kain. Ergo MM feels that those two, specifically, are blaming him.

Then in this post, MM says he could find a whole bunch of votes suspicious, and keeps an FoS on Kain. There's no mention of Gamma at all, despite the fact that Gamma was the first one to "blame" MM for drealmerz lynch.

That doesn't read natural to me.
VOTE: The MM
HURT: BTD
HEAL: zefiend

[JasonWazza]

I've been mulling this over for a bit. So I got a PM last night as my role as a Day 2 Census Taker, and while I don't know exactly what it means it says "1/2". My hypothesis right now is that this is how many scum votes were on drealmerz yesterday.

Question, can you give more context as to what your role is?

[Secret Agent Jin]

I missed the consensus taker post also.

VOTE: MM
VOTE: MM
HURT: Zefiend
HEAL: Gamma

[Eggman]

I've been mulling this over for a bit. So I got a PM last night as my role as a Day 2 Census Taker, and while I don't know exactly what it means it says "1/2". My hypothesis right now is that this is how many scum votes were on drealmerz yesterday.

Question, can you give more context as to what your role is?

Night 1 only, I receive a number. I'm not told what it means. I'm basically vanilla now, I guess.

[Gamma Emerald]

If both Eggman and zefiend are telling the truth votes need to come off zefiend (hurts and heals are irrelevant and can stay)

[Gamma Emerald]

- Bullet, The MM, Jin, Jason
These people need to switch votes in their next posts

[BNL]

zefiend is lying about his doublevote for some reason

How do you know? Why do you think that?

[BNL]

Oh, I see you confused Vote number/vote weight

[BNL]

I don't see a reason zefiend should be unvoted. If he is town, he his playing against his wincon, especially given that since he claimed he is a double voter which isn't *that* valuable IMO. If he was something more powerful like a full sensor I could buy it.

Eggman's claim looks legit, but I don't see how his result means anything meaningful. All we get is that the scumteam wasn't all on the wagon or all off it, which is a natural assumption for a D1 quicklynch.

[BNL]

VOTE: zefiend
HURT: Tywin Lannister
HEAL: Secret Agent Jin

Tywin still needs to answer me, and has been active elsewhere.

[ɀefiend]

I don't see a reason zefiend should be unvoted. If he is town, he his playing against his wincon, especially given that since he claimed he is a double voter which isn't *that* valuable IMO. If he was something more powerful like a full sensor I could buy it.

Explain how claiming my role is playing against a town win-con please.

Secondly, you are either ignorant or scum. Double weight on my votes is exceptionally powerful in a game literally predicated on VOTING.

Furthermore, it is now apparent that the only "good reasons" for unvoting me relied on my role-claim. You are not even bothering to address the logic and arguments in my posts.

Lastly, you have seemingly accepted Eggman's claim but have failed to grasp elementary maths that suggest either Jin or MM is Mafia, assuming that Eggman's ability works as theorized.

When MM flips scum you can die next.