Code Geass Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Frozen Angel]

Bismarck Waldstein : War is merely one method of diplomacy. However, it is the least efficient one.

Vote Count 1.26

Klingoncelt (2): culted, Crystalline Dagger
Reasonably Rational (2): Drone, malpascp
Not Chara (2): Leonshade
Crystalline Dagger (2): PainBringer, McMenno
PainBringer (1): DiamondSentinel
davesaz (1): Aristophanes
Aristophanes (1): ssbm_Kyouko
BTD6_maker (1): KainTepes
culted (1): DarkInnocence
keyXrb (1): Vecna

Not Voting (6): BTD6_maker, Reasonably Rational, randomidget, keyXrb, davesaz, Klingoncelt

With 19 players alive it takes 10 votes to lynch.
Day 1 / Cupid Day ends in (expired on 2017-01-06 16:25:36)

Note: Klingoncelt is VLA till jan 2nd.
BTD6_maker is VLA from dec 26th till jan 5th.
Firebringer is VLA till Jan 9th.
Drone is VLA till Jan 1st.

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: Not Chara

I'm following things through to the conclusions. I'll go step by step though because the alignments of RR, DS, and CD should make themselves a bit clearer with this push. I've gotten into bad bad fights with Grandma before, sometimes when I expect to much in terms of logical consistency from her. When she's logically inconsistent in favor of scum, I tend to jump to she IS scum when that's not always the case. Grandma isn't displaying the personality tells like with Suikoden that would be similar to her being scum, but she's spouting enough gibberish where I can't put her as clear yet.

~Titus

I'm pushing mainly because it looks like KC is just pushing a ML from how the vote stuck after the logic was disproven (unless my timeline is wrong)
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

Given that fake generally means scum, and you think they're both fake, then how can you come to the conclusion they can't be scum together?

I think at least one is scum.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Change that to ONLY one
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Right.

Contradiction 1: Gamma calls DS fake, yet in the same post he's voting Klingon who "feels fake". (RR)
Contradiction 2: Gamma argues that DS is being fake with his dichotomy, but says that DS cannot be scum with either one. (Dave)
Contradiction 3: Gamma says that someone who is fake, cannot be scum with the person that feels fake. (Titus)

The most logical conclusion to draw with this is that Gamma has some alternative reason not to want to vote DS. That reason is either DS is town and pushing a dichotomy that Gamma likes or DS is scum and Gamma would like to focus elsewhere. Both of these lead to the impression that Klingon (Grandma) is town.

p-edit: I am sorry Dave. I'll try to limit calling Klingon by her nickname for awhile.

I felt DS was town and just wrong at that point. I still felt like the false dichotomy needed to be noted.
~GE

[davesaz]

But you described it as fake, where if you had a TR there I'd expect you to say it was wrong or misguided.

[Crystalline Dagger]

That Gamme post is horrible.

VOTE: Crystalline Dagger

I'm willing to let them live to allow Painbringer to keep them hostage, but only if we don't find a better lynch for today.

You want to keep me alive if no other lynches pop up?
What?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But you described it as fake, where if you had a TR there I'd expect you to say it was wrong or misguided.

Okay, that's just word choice. It's like pushing someone for referring to scum as "goons". rb understands what I'm talking about (or not since he doesn't remember that game actually).
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

That Gamme post is horrible.

Welcome to gamma every game.

Don't try to act like you know me

[Crystalline Dagger]

Klingoncelt - Scummy. (Between Lean Scum and Probable Scum). Posts like 332 are very difficult to read. On one hand, Klingoncelt is attacking a known thread to her early, trying to get in before I can post. (See Suikoden) On the other hand, Grandma should know I'd be all over that kind of posting as town. The laughing at Vecna feels rather forced too in 334. Klingon tested to see if their vote worked by voting random. They planned on moving to rb once the verification came in their vote worked, but nothing. Where is the follow through? They haven't come back since the whole noble hood thing was explained. Yet, why didn't they push this back when I voted them? Why did they wait until I was a wagon? Christmas holidays does mess with this a bit, but I expect more from them if town.

Goddamn you, Titus do not EVER imagine that you can get inside my head. You have no fucking clue what I plan.

My vote for Random was real, though likely misguided because he's Scumread in lots of games. Low-hanging fruit.

My vote on you was real too until I remembered Fire's habit if shit-claiming.

I have a read that's pretty accurate. Nearly every time someone does this they're Scum. It's when a player says another player's reads/comments are "forced" or "fake."
Also when a player goes out of their way to Scumread someone that's V/LA, they're likely Scum themselves.
Also when they put out a readslist that is so generic it could have been written before the game started, they're likely Scum.

VOTE: Painbringer

Votes here please ^

I'd like to put in my thoughts here.
The post looks like a lot of "these are things scum does yadayadayada" without much extrapolation of the theories.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE
I can qoute an instance of that if necessary btw

[Crystalline Dagger]

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

i agree, i have no idea what my hydra buddy is doing.

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

Why?

Sign your posts more please
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

This? It's somewhat scummy but not as bad as half of the people are saying
~Maria

Scummy or scumsided?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

nevermind that, read it wrong
thought they were quoting the post above them, not mine

[Crystalline Dagger]

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

Why?

They're flowing with town waves and making good moves.
I can feel their thoughts flow naturally like the ocean.

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

~T

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

Why do you suggest bussing as the first thing? They're referring to my thought mixup.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I'm glad you go back to filler posts because you can't admit you're wrong.
~Maria

its a lot more fun making snarky posts rather than "OMG YOU SUCK SO HARD MARIA".

anyways, hows life?

has to be Fire
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

No. Explain what is natural about voting what "feels fake" over what "is fake".

~T

Okay that's nitpicking. I said DS's suggestion was fake, but it wasn't scummy. Klingon's SR on you is a scummy sort of fake.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I said you need to be looked at and voted you
No where in that post did I say scum
~Maria

Why do you need to vote me to tell people to look at me?
What's there to look at?

Exactly
~Maria

Nope.

If there's something that you think people should be looking into, it makes no sense to think that there's nothing to look into.

Have I provided the least amount of content? What stands out about me?

Exactly
~Maria

Maria: Exactly
Me: That doesn't make any sense.
Maria: Exactly
Me:You can't just say exactly, there has to be a reason for what you are doing or you are just making up shit as you go
Maria: Exactly
Me: You have no idea what you are doing at all, do you?
Maria: Exactly
Me: (face palm)

I guess I have to spell it out now don't I.
The townreads people have on the culted slot make no sense for anything they've done in this game
No one questioned them about the sr on our slot either just really coasting by for no reason not doing much at all
So when you say "what's there to look at" you really just answered your own question
~Maria

DI feels like town for this. They're doing the "not much content" thing but it's not a reason for a scumread, it's for presssure. I feel scum would try to push the barrenness of culted's ISO as scum indicative.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But failing that; you've done absolutely nothing town.

smh
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I like the cut if culted's jib - but why you vote Klingoncelt when you say MariaR is scumclaiming?

I'm up for a MariaR lynch but notsomuch Klingoncelt

Klingoncelt is coolbeans for no reason, i just like her

No. DI is town, Klingon is scum.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I would appreciate it if you guys would stop acting like one specific person sucks. All of us suck at this game. Let's get that straight. Some of us just happen to have luck sometimes. So all of you stop acting like you're great and have a little humility.

Kthanks

I'm fucking fantastic
I always peg scum when I try
That's actually a bunch of horseshit I say when I'm pissed obvscum isn't lynched, I have decent reads but my pushes are not always the best.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

why did you give me examples when you've asked for detail?

I don't understand this question.

I want to know what about the 'interaction' made you hate it. It takes two to tango -- you only dislike one dancer -- you hate the dance.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Who do you think is scum?

Culted you type weird stuff. First the waves and now this.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

So.

I somewhat townread CD, although this does shake that a bit. First off, this is just blatantly them throwing out some buzzword to try and seem relevant. I'm not even sure what they are implying I'd gain by faking that statement.

Also, KT, scum could use it to take down their partner if they ever get lynched. So, yeah. That's definitely usable by scum.

A bit late to the party are we?

[Titus]

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

No. Explain what is natural about voting what "feels fake" over what "is fake".

~T

Okay that's nitpicking. I said DS's suggestion was fake, but it wasn't scummy. Klingon's SR on you is a scummy sort of fake.
~GE

How can DS be fake without being scum?

(All posts Titus unless signed while Fire is vla)

[Painbringer]

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

No. Explain what is natural about voting what "feels fake" over what "is fake".

~T

Okay that's nitpicking. I said DS's suggestion was fake, but it wasn't scummy. Klingon's SR on you is a scummy sort of fake.
~GE

How can DS be fake without being scum?

(All posts Titus unless signed while Fire is vla)