Micro 668 - Birds of Paradise - Game Over

[Joshz]

scum team is ssbm/myko stop wasting time voting each other

when i read initially i did not see drealmz' claim and did not know about it until i saw it referenced and decided to look in his iso so i do not blame ff.

[drealmerz7]

how do you miss that shit if you read the fucking thread?

OMFG

STOP DRINKING THE FUCKING CHLORINATED FLUORIDATED WATER, PEOPLE!!!

[Joshz]

idk i read the first like 10-15 (idr specifically) pages thoroughly then i remembered transcend was the one who was lynched and i thought "wait what the fuck he hasnt even been voted how did scum flashwagon him" so at that point my focus was broken and my brain started focusing more on finding where transcend wagon started and less on absorbing info subconsciously, and i wholeheartedly believe the transcend wagon was scum driven.

[drealmerz7]

it's a micro...wagons barely even get "driven"...

[Formerfish]

So because I missed your vt claim from 500+ posts, that makes me scummy? Get the fuck out of here. It's not like you claimed a PR and I pushed you knowing that. You claimed vt I'm a post that obviously didn't make much of an impact, and then the group flash lynched a claimed PR instead.

My scum hunting started with that wagon, I've said that before and I will stick by it. The lunch today comes from those 4, and if you think a vt claim prevents me from still scum reading you I'll take whatever you are currently ingesting to alter your current state of being.

[drealmerz7]

no

please read and comprehend my commments

ffs

[mykonian]

UNVOTE:

3 days
not ready for a hammer yet
don't trust the fish guy

fish guy is a jackass who replaced zoor who was more or less fine.

[Formerfish]

UNVOTE:

3 days
not ready for a hammer yet
don't trust the fish guy

fish guy is a jackass who replaced zoor who was more or less fine.

See, I find you town because you act exactly like you did in the song upick. I went back and looked, you were a vt in that game. You're kind of a dick, but your towns dick. Which is why out of the 4 people on the wagon yesterday I am not looking to lynch you or TTTT.

[Formerfish]

no

please read and comprehend my commments

ffs

Ok, how about we quit with the dickhead comments?

As I said before, I skimmed over the first 20 or so pages the first night I read. I slogged through a lot of bullshit that will probably end up being nothing. What I became interested in was how a

claimed POWER ROLE

was killed on day 1. He claimed a PR 14 hours before he was lynched and no one fucking blinked. The wagon should have disbanded, and gone on to someone scummy or you do no lynch and force scum to pick between the guy who just claimed a pr during the day or someone else at random?

And I get the whole never no lynch thing, but the situation changes when someone claims a pr, unless you run into a counter claim situation, but you guys weren't there. So why go through with the lynch? To get information from it and to limit the scope of the next day so that we maximize our chances of finding scum within a specific subset of suspects. And I am sorry I missed your vanilla claim, but excuse me if I don't exactly give a fuck about it even after knowing.

[mykonian]

He softclaimed like a newbie. "teehee I'm a pr don't lynch me". Not "omg what are you doing I'm the watcher". So he told town nothing, and scum everything they needed to know. Till the flip we didn't actually get to hear what his role was.

Now, I judged Transcend as being too experienced to play it like that (which is objectively a bit of a self absorbed and contraproductive way of claiming, kindly don't take that as an example), but on the other hand he hasn't been around all that long and might not have encountered it being problematic yet, so that's my error in judgement.

Then again, I think I'll take a claim like that as more inclined to avoid a lynch than actually helping town forwards and I think I won't blink to lynch it usually. It's just too good from scum compared to how useful it is from town.

I mean I get that jackass isn't the nicest word to say, but stuff like this Fish, idk. You know why softclaims are scummy. You've seen it. The reasoning why it is scummy isn't too hard. Why are you throwing that part of the Transcend lynch as blame onto people? That part of the Transcend lynch he could have avoided, make it easier for people to see him as town. Other parts we could have, and in retrospect I think I've seen a different face of his compared to last game.

I think if you want to find the guilty parties through that way, you want to read the earlier parts of that day. The pressure on Transcend built up before the wagon actually started. He got named more often through the day as that went on, which was what made the flash wagon possible. Say, the person who did talk about it but waited for someone else to make the move, could very well be scum. I don't know who that was, could have a look.

[mykonian]

Not seeing the Drealmer wagon.

It's right here:

drealmerz7 (4) - Transcend, TTTT, Bulbazoor, mykonian

(L-1)

Wanna join?

As I'm going through: by my current reads, this was an all town wagon.

[mykonian]

I think if you want to find the guilty parties through that way, you want to read the earlier parts of that day. The pressure on Transcend built up before the wagon actually started. He got named more often through the day as that went on, which was what made the flash wagon possible. Say, the person who did talk about it but waited for someone else to make the move, could very well be scum. I don't know who that was, could have a look.

I misremembered, there's nothing here. I was the only one to talk about him, the rest tiptoed around his proddodges, waiting for something to happen.

Only interesting bit:

myko thinks he sees LHF in transcend

transcend plays like that and it is annoying and lame but NAI for him and you have to "feel" him more - having said that, he's not giving me his usual stuff to feel but I think he's just trying to figure out exactly how to play differently and effectively

go ahead transcend, switch up that meta, it might get you lynched because ppl don't like blatant meta switches, but, you it's worth it, you won't be stuck any more, you'll be free! so, give us what you've got, take the time and calm the thoughts and put each sentence out that helps others see what your view/thougts are - just pick 1 player and do it for them

Then after transcend claims (with nn30/me/tttt on):

VOTE: transcend

ok, let's see

[BNL]

Vote Count 2.7

drealmerz7 - (2) - CloudKicker, mykonian
Formerfish (2) - ssbm_Kyouko, drealmerz7
mykonian (1) - Joshz

Not voting (2) - Formerfish, TTTT

The deadline is 6 January 2:30am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2017-01-06 02:30:00).

Mod notes:
CloudKicker is V/LA from 1 Jan to 4 Jan
CloudKicker has been poked

[mykonian]

idk, if SSBM is scum it's his level view of the game. Don't really know if I want to punish that. If cloud is scum it's similar. Those two more or less spoke positively about me at times, and I'm susceptible to that. Dreal at so many times looks incredibly scummy to me, as does mew. Zoor makes no sense as town or scum but I kind of saw that coming, then parts of his play look townish. I can go in circles about this all day long, don't think it gets me further.

I still need more people to talk about this, and make some sense.

[TTTT]

@drealm
tell me why ssbm is town

[mykonian]

2 and a bit days to go and in a spot where nobody wants to lynch you.

Do you mind?

[Joshz]

So to be clear: myko is scum, drealmz is annoying, ssbm is scum, CloudKicker is proddodging, tttt is basically doing that too, and FF needs to vote myko with me.

[drealmerz7]

@drealm
tell me why ssbm is town

who said they're town?

[Formerfish]

Josh, I like Myko for town right now. I am willing to do dreal or ssbm.

[TTTT]

@drealm
tell me why ssbm is town

who said they're town?

Not you.
you also haven't said ssbm is scum.
or null.
or said anything about ssbm all game
prove me wrong by busing your partner.

[TTTT]

2 and a bit days to go and in a spot where nobody wants to lynch you.

Do you mind?

I don't get this post.
plz explain using small words and simple concepts.

[Joshz]

Josh, I like Myko for town right now. I am willing to do dreal or ssbm.

Sigh

vote drealmz

[drealmerz7]

no, we're fishe's biggest threat

don't fall for it

VOTE: mykonian

[Formerfish]

I don't know if that was sarcasm or not. Could you clarify that comment before I respond?

[drealmerz7]

definitely NOT 'we scumbuddies' if that's what you're thinking

(I'm looking back at it and am like "what can he think I mean?")