Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[Gamma Emerald]

btw majority of people outside my top scum suspects (tywin and sonia) needs to agree before it happens

[Titus]

VOTE: Tywin

Do not selfhammer. Make scum do it.

[Alisae]

Titus that really doesn't make sense coming from you unless you expect Elbrin to do it.
And I don't think he will.

[Alisae]

Also you never gave me your thoughts on my CK theory.

[Titus]

Also you never gave me your thoughts on my CK theory.

What post?

[Alisae]

Here's the way I see it.
CK was doing town things and dropping intentional traitor tells to drop some paranoia in the town. Whenever he got lynched or got killed in this case, it would make some of his TRs look really bad and some of his SRs look really good.
Sometimes with CK the way I see it you have to look at the bigger picture, and sometime you have to take things at face value. Like for example when he directly told Kyouko that traitors want to make themselves look obvious for their scumteam, and then votes Lapsa, or when he basicly claimed he was part of the mafia when he was fucking around with his signature. Him voting Lapsa and him saying that Traitors want to make themselves look obvious to their scumteam is basicly him claiming traitor because it was a counter claim to Lapsa's traitor.
CK give a TR on Titus, a TR on AJ. A TR on Tywin. These are all the people that Cloudie hoped we mislynch. Too bad we cleared Titus.
He gives Kyouko a scumread. A person we hoped we could dismiss as town.
He gives Elbrin a TR. I don't get this one.
He gives Gamma a TR. I think this TR is the real scumread. Also it's the very last read mentioned in that string. People read from left to right, so naturally people will go look at the first few TRs and go "Oh thats Cloudie's scummates." Basicly he hoped the Gamma read would be ignored completely.

Lapsa 9 (Pine, CloudKicker, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, Cabd, Syryana, Alisae)

Now, let's look at this. We see Traitor Cloudie. Kyouko mentions some stuff about the Lapsa saying how Scum probably tried to stay off the Lapsa wagon. And Gamma is there. Cool. Cloudie effectively communicated to his scum team that he was the traitor.

BUT WAIT ALISAE?!?!?! WHY WAS HE NK'D IF HE COMMUNICATED THAT OFF PERFECTLY?!?!?!
Becuase killing him would hopefully caused more mislynches.

CK stuff if you care about that since ya know, CK is traitor.

I remember Garry saying this would make sense coming from CK

[Alisae]

Like Titus, if you think about it.
I think Day 2 would have happened VERY differently if you were not cleared right away.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

hoping this flips scum, if not im fine with being shot for the sake of getting the associations in CK iso figured out. If Gamma and I are both town (and I am town) I think Pine/Sonia/Aj are the most suspicious but Gamma is probscum

VOTE: Gamma

[Alisae]

Alright I'm getting NK'd.
Gamma scum means scum in either Kyouko, Pine, or Elbrin.
Gamma Town means scum in either Nero, Elbrin, Tywin.
Best of luck town!

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So you think as scum I hammer my buddy without intent but if gamma's toiwn and i hammer without intent I'm also town?

[Alisae]

For towncred, yes.
If Gamma is town and you are town um...I never considered this lol xd.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So why does Gamma town not mean scum in Kyouko, Nero, Elbrin, Tywin, and why not Sonia after CK Iso?

[Alisae]

Um Gamma town means scum in Kyouko, Nero, Elbrin, Tywin. Congrats you put yourself in the pool.
You and Tywin actually makes sense.
And Sonia is probably town.

[Pine]

So you think as scum I hammer my buddy without intent but if gamma's toiwn and i hammer without intent I'm also town?

That tracks, actually.

I'm TRing you, but that logic

does

work, if you don't have the reads I do.

[Alisae]

Alright I'm gonna sleep on who could be scum with Gamma and who is scum if it's not Gamma.
I think Kyouko hammered just to fuck with me.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

You "can WIFOM my hammer all fucking night"

[Alisae]

Yep!
Maybe while I do that I'll come visit you, we'll drink tea, watch a movie, and then I'll flip a coin to see if I shoot you or not.

[Gamma Emerald]

hoping this flips scum, if not im fine with being shot for the sake of getting the associations in CK iso figured out. If Gamma and I are both town (and I am town) I think Pine/Sonia/Aj are the most suspicious but Gamma is probscum

VOTE: Gamma

Congrats you're on the radar for death now
Kill off my wagon - Alisae and you p much win.

[Gamma Emerald]

For towncred, yes.
If Gamma is town and you are town um...I never considered this lol xd.

You never considered that despite all the combined pushes on us?
SERIOUSLY?

[Gamma Emerald]

Um Gamma town means scum in Kyouko, Nero, Elbrin, Tywin. Congrats you put yourself in the pool.
You and Tywin actually makes sense.
And Sonia is probably town.

No.
Elbirn is town.
Sonia is scum.

[Alisae]

You scum or not?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm town.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So either shoot me so yall can lynch sonia for the cloud iso tomorrow or shoot sonia and consider lynching me if she's town

[Elbirn]

Alisae you have literally everyone on your hit list for some pants-on-head reason or another, and that is really not how this works. That's not how anything works. Please don't make a stupid shot tonight. Be smarterer.

[Elbirn]

We also had an entire week left for discussion which all got cut short by Kyouko because why?