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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:57 am

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In post 323, Toto wrote:Because he is not backing down. He really wants to get rid of me.

Moogin. He said again he is a PR in post 303
Well you're not getting him lynched today no offense so I don't see, regardless of his alignment, why he has to listen to you and claim his role. My vote is really cozy on you right now.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:00 am

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So what happened to your analysis of the set up table. What did you learn? Why change subject
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 326, Toto wrote:So what happened to your analysis of the set up table. What did you learn? Why change subject
In post 324, nydushermain wrote:Your theory falls apart slightly toto on the offchance that scenarios B) 1) and 2) are the case. If he knows that there is no roleblocker and he's scum (obv), then 50% of the role setups have no second. That means that if he claims doctor or bulletproof, he can land in the scenario where he gets the right claim in B)1) and B)2).
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:01 am

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It actually doesn't matter that much for me because I read formerfish town independently of the "PR claim." In fact, he's my only town right now so your push is looking even scummier.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:02 am

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In post 288, nydushermain wrote:
In post 286, TierShift wrote:Ny, read on fykus?
Lynchable but not on my radar as scum.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:03 am

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Making formerfish claim exactly what PR he is also has a pretty good chance of giving scum the EXACT role setup if formerfish is town. Also not beneficial... Your strategy is ONLY GOOD if formerfish is scum. That's literally it. And if he is scum, he doesn't die in the night anyways so we kill him tomorrow...
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:04 am

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In post 327, nydushermain wrote:
In post 326, Toto wrote:So what happened to your analysis of the set up table. What did you learn? Why change subject
In post 324, nydushermain wrote:Your theory falls apart slightly toto on the offchance that scenarios B) 1) and 2) are the case. If he knows that there is no roleblocker and he's scum (obv), then 50% of the role setups have no second. That means that if he claims doctor or bulletproof, he can land in the scenario where he gets the right claim in B)1) and B)2).
If he claims doctor the other doctor or bp will counter claim. Easy.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:04 am

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In post 329, TierShift wrote:
In post 288, nydushermain wrote:
In post 286, TierShift wrote:Ny, read on fykus?
Lynchable but not on my radar as scum.
Why not
I don't see anything particularly scummy from him. Nothing townie either though. He's a literal null read and unless the votes people are placing on him are just pressure votes, not completely sure why he's the main person on the lynch table compared to someone like jack who I believe is playing very similarly.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:05 am

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In post 331, Toto wrote:
In post 327, nydushermain wrote:
In post 326, Toto wrote:So what happened to your analysis of the set up table. What did you learn? Why change subject
In post 324, nydushermain wrote:Your theory falls apart slightly toto on the offchance that scenarios B) 1) and 2) are the case. If he knows that there is no roleblocker and he's scum (obv), then 50% of the role setups have no second. That means that if he claims doctor or bulletproof, he can land in the scenario where he gets the right claim in B)1) and B)2).
If he claims doctor the other doctor or bp will counter claim. Easy.
And if the setup is just
Vanilla Mafia / Cop / Vanilla Town??

Then scum!formerfish's claim of doctor goes unCCed because there's no doctor in the setup, and the cop believes his claim because obviously the setup of cop + doctor is viable.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:06 am

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You're looking for the smallest ways to get formerfish to claim his role. Horrific play as town. Excellent play as scum... if you weren't getting lynched ;)
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:08 am

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Like I feel like you're grasping at straws. You're posing random possibilities and not actually thinking them through, unless I'm the one overlooking something in which case someone should bring it up and correct me.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:10 am

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In post 334, nydushermain wrote:You're looking for the smallest ways to get formerfish to claim his role. Horrific play as town. Excellent play as scum... if you weren't getting lynched ;)
So its a good play as scum but also bad?
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:13 am

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He's saying that if you are town then you are playing a horrible game. If you are scum then you are doing the best you can to recover after running into a PR when you didn't expect it.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:16 am

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dude. I brought the softclaim up. Why would I do that if I was scum. It makes no sense.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:17 am

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I would just shoot you and leave town wondering what happened
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:23 am

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Scum cares very little about the team composition. If someone pr softclaims he gets shots without making a fuss about it.

Anyway. Lynch this guy tomorrow if he is alive.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:24 am

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Oh yeah. You should already know Im a vt since I said I dont give a crap about getting lynched.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:25 am

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Unless you don't make it out of the day today and your partner missed it?

Seriously dude, I think I'm about done dealing with you. Your game play is ridiculous as town, and I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall trying to discuss anything with you.

Town dont point out softclaims. They recognize them, then they shut the fuck up about it until it is necessary for it to be vocalized. Think about it like a shut#out. You don't talk about the shut#out until it's over.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 am

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Fuck you Toto.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 338, Toto wrote:dude. I brought the softclaim up. Why would I do that if I was scum. It makes no sense.
It does. It's an attempt to make fish look bad.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 am

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Stop with all the bullshit, if he's around tomorrow we power lynch his ass.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:27 am

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In post 340, Toto wrote:Scum cares very little about the team composition. If someone pr softclaims he gets shots without making a fuss about it.

Anyway. Lynch this guy tomorrow if he is alive.
In post 345, Formerfish wrote:Stop with all the bullshit, if he's around tomorrow we power lynch his ass.
So you don't wanna lynch him today?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:28 am

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If you are town then I hope you up your game before I ever see you in a game thread again.


Ninja- I want him dead. I think that rope will be the only way that happens. either he is just scum, or mislynch bait now.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:29 am

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345 was me putting words in totos mouth.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:34 am

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In post 342, Formerfish wrote:Unless you don't make it out of the day today and your partner missed it?

Seriously dude, I think I'm about done dealing with you.
Your game play is ridiculous as town
, and I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall trying to discuss anything with you.

Town dont point out softclaims. They recognize them, then they shut the fuck up about it until it is necessary for it to be vocalized. Think about it like a shut#out. You don't talk about the shut#out until it's over.

How do you know Im town?
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