Mini 1871 - Town of Whispers - Game Over

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fos Human sequencer

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That's just a fancy way of saying FIRST IN THREAD, FIRST TO FLIP TOWN

Except I don't want to die, thanks

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Wow, way to out your neighborhoods already pal.

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Yeah......................................................

nice fishing

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3 lynchbaits all in the same neighborhood pairings

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jin, whose your scumbuddy? is it btd6_maker?

3 lynchbaits all in the same neighborhood pairings

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8669889

Btw, I think I remarked in game thread that scum tend to crush mini normals when they have neighbor ability. Townies are just CONSISTENTLY bad at reading people in PT. It's scums biggest edge (other than suicides) of the format IMO.

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I don't know what's causing it but it's probably not them viewing and not posting

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VOTE: Secret Agent Jin

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How do you know they're lurking?

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The heck was that triple post; you ok?

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Out with it?

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is that a bad joke

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If Jin turns out to be town, that looks very bad for HS.

no it doesn't

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more like it looks bad for you

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VOTE: TheDominator37

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I want to lynch TheDominator37

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I think Btd6 is town and it's not because of their stance - I've come to understand the strange being that is Btd6

Misere is lynchable. My neighbors don't seem to want to talk to me. SAJ still an option

VOTE: Misere

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Beeboy mia for me too

Dominator said something about scum thread too

and then silence

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Can you explain how you went from wanting to lynch TheDominator to immediately voting Misere after Misere voted you?

They're both scummy

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shannon were you always awkward like that

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Might just be me.

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2. He has interesting associations with both Dunnstral and BlackVoid.

No he doesn't

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all town

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Dominator voted Dunnstral right out of the gate and didn't change or comment on this when I added my vote there, and Dunnstral is openly calling for Dominator's lynch, which lowers the probability of a Dominator-Dunnstral scumteam. (Not rules out, but lowers the probability.)

Real surface level thinking here; not sure you can believe this

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can his other neighbour comment too?

Other neighbor won't even post content in the main thread

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VOTE: dunn

VOTE: TheDominator37

OMGUS INSTANT SCUM. GG

VOTE: dunn

Hi there would you like to be useful.

Hi there would you like to die

I want to lynch TheDominator37

Same

Im alive

Blatent lurking

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scummy list

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Dunn and Arthur and BTD all voted Jin straight off the bat for 'claiming scum'.

Don't put words in my mouth, please, I never said that

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What are we waiting for? Lynch misere then lynch TheDominator

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I wonder if SAD is scum

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That leaves shannon dunn slysly HS.

I'm watching you

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LOL

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Shannon, are you buddying me?

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I was voting him before hs came out with the "slip" that nobody seems to care about anymore

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I was voting him before hs came out with the "slip" that nobody seems to care about anymore

This is the correct answer. (I expected that you would give the correct answer, but it didn't hurt to check.)

Shannon's lines of questioning are solid.

Alright then, I wouldn't have slipped up anyways

I think a change of perspective is due. Let's lynch somebody else who's scummy in a different way

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VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

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I think he might be aligned with a minority faction

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SAD realized I was onto him - better start gamesolving

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Dunn: What's your current read on Black Void, HS, and Arthur?

Jin was scummy, haven't really looked at BV

Hs towny

Arthur scummy

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It's HS, Dunn, or BTD6 for me. Pick a compromise. I saw the L-1 count bs, too. Not near as bad as that case against Jin.

Yeah we're not doing any of that

VOTE: SlySly

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*waits patiently for the Americans to wake up and comment*

it's 1 am but ok

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I'm not just omgusing slysly; he's playing super weird/bad compared to what I've seen when he was town and so he can go

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Why am i even being wagoned? SAD?

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That's really dumb. Why have you ruled out slysly, for one?

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and who else is scum from your poe?

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And why are you thinking of lynching me, again?

Really wondering why everyone is jumping on me

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No, I've changed my mind. I don't want to lynch misere today. I think their recent posts showed scumhunting effort that I wouldn't lynch them over

I want slysly or SAD.

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I think this wagon forming on me is pretty insane. Town needs to gather up their votes where I've been pushing the past week instead of trying to start a counterwagon on me in the last 24 hours

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His reads are bad too actually now that I look

I guess I'm not as against his lynch as I thought

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because your play in this game strikes me as identical to the play in the last game I played with you where you were scum fake claiming miller.

OK



how?

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@HS what are your thoughts

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Alright let's get him
VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

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Dunn, where are you? You should be voting this mofo for his shady non-reason-giving voting practices. His vote on you came from nowhere. Not cool.

I WAS... I switched to vote SAD because 2 votes are better than one

VOTE: SlySly

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Regarding Dunn, I have gotten no town vibes from him and he seems to be playing in a manipulative way.

Town Sad doesn't talk like this.........

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Are you guys up for lynching SAD

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Let's hurry and pile onto one of them before we nolynch by running out of time?

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sleeping

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I'm not excited on a misere lynch.

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I'm confident there is scum within sly/sad. That's who I want to lynch

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who

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for 380

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I'm between both of them but you keep flip flopping between them so I've been following you

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I think SAD is most likely to be mafia.

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what's the votes at? Who can we lynch basically

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I'm here too

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Don't vote me for that.

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Also, that is untrue. Vote sad?

VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

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oh, shannon isn't here

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Seriously though, get your vote off of me if you don't scumread me.

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:///

Such a believable claim too. If Misere was scum would prob claim a PR esp knowing both me and Dunn are here to hammer.

Then don't hammer him? This setup has good potential for protective roles in it, so it can swing back to odds, and I'd rather not lynch someone who's town

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What do you guys think of nn30?

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Reads list:

Town
Shannon - Willing to push for who she wants lynched, I like the observations she makes, and I seem to remember a different tone in the last game I was in with her (she was scum).
BV - I like his entrance. Seems to be making good observations and I don't see any scum motivation in what he's done so far.

Scummy
Misere - Stated above and in my line of questioning.
Slysly - surface level only. Doesn't seem to be doing any active scum hunting - he's just taking pot shots at other people's thoughts.

I'm cool with Misere, BT, and a distant 3rd would be SAD.

Not interested in a Slysly lynch.

Not sure where this slysly progression came from.

VOTE: nn30
Let's quickwagon him

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"but mah claims" should have left more time then.

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also, he posted an hour ago. He's here anyway

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No. We should fl ip it to nn30.

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The chance sof him being scum gambiting are considerably lower than chances of nn30 being scum. Which is slightly above average

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SAD I don't know what you're saying but he does not have good content. He's just floating by, even now as deadline approaches he has no motivation to do anything

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no one's here to switch to nn30 anyways.

btd6 is nowhere to be seen and on him

misere, sad, you, and I can hammer him.

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Dunnstral being so against it is also weird.

Misere has made it clear he'll vote any other viable counter wagon.

Will you hammer nn30, or not?

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shannon!

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Blackvoid disappearing is a scum claim.

I think the scum team is nn30 and blackvoid. The first thing nn30 asked me about in pt was my read on blackvoid, and then we talked about that for a bit

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Misere you really need to come back here and not just lay down an awful vote and disappear

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Bloody hell

Intent to hammer NN30

he's l-2 btw

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Hopefully misere comes back before deadline.

Blackvoid has to find a reason not to hammer his buddy

blackvoid is town.

I don't think so.

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Look at how blackvoid is struggling not to vote nn30.

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This game is solved but I'll be frustrated if we can't get nn30 here

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Dunn what are you seeing? Tell me in neighbourhood if you don't want to do it here

look at how blackvoid has to try to get the lynch off nn30 - who for no reason should he have a strong townread on. I'm pretty confident in this. blackvoid will let it time out rather than vote nn30.

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Nn30 isn't here to claim.

he posted an hour ago. he has nobody to blame

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There we go.

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Who would kill btd6

I townread misere now, that wasn't a bad wagon at the end there.

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slysly posted @ 02 Feb 2017, 13:57 in our PT
it is now 03 Feb 2017, 16:36

????

same

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wow I didn't read or see the post after that

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Or you could stop a townie from being lynched 8 hours from deadline by explaining your thought processes more clearly.
-Lewd

what the heck

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HS, what are your like thoughts?? Or do I have to lynch you

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HS, what are your like thoughts?? Or do I have to lynch you

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VOTE: Human Sequencer

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Why do people think misere is scum when they were obvious town yesterday? Let's lynch HS

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HS why do you ignore me??

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The claim thing. He would have been lynched if I didn't swing the lynch to someone else

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VOTE: Slysly
yeah

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bye

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I feel like the scum team might be shannon and hs.... Definitely a scum hammer from hs though. Don't vote anything yet

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That team might not make senss; maybe not shannon. Hs seems obvious. Nobody vote tho

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In that case, scumteam is possibly Human Sequencer and BlackVoid

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Actually that team is really unlikely two, from the early interactions with the pt stuff and HS voting jin

SHANNON....

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Other option is I'm wrong on misere

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Dunn - Is my neighbour. First aboard the Jin wagon after Jin's slip, which earns points for me.

Dunnstral, is the slip why you voted Jin?

Aside from the vt claim at lynch time, things like this hold a certain nuance that I'd think are more advanced scum techniques


Blackvoid, I don't think you're scum with HS, either, because of the jin push (and putting him at l-1) and his response at the start. I don't think that was scum theatre.

HS + Shannon is what I'm strongly considering as the team

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But even though that reasoning makes sense, I also pause to think if HS + Shannon is really likely. Maybe I'm really unlucky here

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I wonder why hapahauli was killed

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Are you saying that Mis's question was advanced scum, or my initial statement?

No, I think he's town for it...

I would like to know why you are suddenly scum reading me after unapologetically sheeping me earlier in the game?

Well, you did a good job of buddying up to me.

Also how you think HS and I make sense as a team? Like what connections you see there?

I mainly think hs is obvious scum. Ignoring me, the hammer, yeah. Looking at who their partner could be, it's hard to imagine it being misere (who I townread) or blackvoid (jin's slot, who they pushed to l-1)

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Ok Shannon, who can you see as hs's partner?

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Sorry, I'm pretty sure Hs is scum.

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Wow, I get it now. HS is scared of me. Because they're scum. Yesterday they flat out ignored me knowing nobody would really pay attention to me.

I really am convinced enough to vote hs here

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Don't ask me for a case. That's really not my forte. Just instinct piled up. Things that don't make sense to other people. But it fills me with the confidence to drive my blade into Human Sequencer's heart

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dunn's scumread on me for the 'scum hammer' doesn't really make sense, he knows i'm fond of brash actions, specifically quickhammers, from game experience.

I don't think this is true

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uh, so you guys were scum?

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i'm pretty confident in a dunn+misere scumteam.

HS...

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oops

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I was so close

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Wow, who could have predicted BlackVoid was scum?

ME...

But I switched my jailkeep target off of him onto HS day 1, adn then day 2 I jailkept shannon

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I'll argue that lynching nn30 over misere was still a good move, especially since I was a pr

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If you were suss on me I was considering claiming Doc and that I had been blocked from saving Hapa.

there's no mafia roleblocker so you'd have given yourself away

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if you claimed doc and said you were blocked you'd be counter claiming yourself - only 1 more town pr could exist

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I'm not really blaming you

Except for the part where you IGNORED ME yesterday........

What was going on between you and misere anyway at the end

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I had a dream that shannon was scum during day 1