Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Infinity 324]

Just because someone is a good play doesn't mean you should auto-sheep them.

[Klingoncelt]

Someone with a high accuracy rate should be sheeped.

[Infinity 324]

If you're not confident in your own reads, yes. Otherwise take their opinion into account but don't treat it as fact.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why aren't you sheeping Nero on SC if you're claiming you two are reading the game the same way?

I'm fine with SC lynch but AJ is more obviously scum

I don't know. My past experiences with AJ have led me to believe he gets scum read for his personality and play style a lot. I liked a few of the things he brought up about SC and the Heartless for Rouge Leader vote is interesting. The latter goes against the grain a bit and I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics

I want to based off her experience, but so far, her confidence hasn't been too assuring.

[Infinity 324]

I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?

The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.

[Infinity 324]

Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.

Yes but he's a player I feel that is set in his ways in terms of play style. He can't help it at this point. Voting for Rouge Leader is something he can control.

[SirCakez]

I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics

This is pretty cruddy, for obvious reasons

Thinker - you asked for a case on infinity. But what do

you think

about him?

[Nero Cain]

I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics

There is a possibility that this is a bus but generally I rather not sheep scum.

I'm not sure what her lack of Cakez vote, while still calling him scum, means. On one hand, he's scum and Mastina doesn't want to bus him yet but then the possibility exists that he's just a mislynch and Mastina is calling him scum to give herself the flexibility to hop on him later on. I'd like for the none Cakez voters (mainly Piper, Pine, Titus and Heartless) to talk to me about him.

[Desperado]

I don't know. My past experiences with AJ have led me to believe he gets scum read for his personality and play style a lot. I liked a few of the things he brought up about SC and the Heartless for Rouge Leader vote is interesting. The latter goes against the grain a bit and I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Voting for a townread is risky?

lol

[Desperado]

The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.

I kinda feel like LUV is just making shit up right now

cuz this is bad

[Infinity 324]

Its a weak reason but could be town imo

I'm just worried about LUV for the same reason pine was, he seems to be playing it safe too much.

[Pine-A-Tonics]

If you're worried, there's a simple solution. Put pressure on him and start asking for definitive answers.

I personally think word choice matters a lot when indicating alignment and just in general you can reveal a lot of behind the scenes info when doing it. For example, in post 755 LUV says "could lead to unnecessary attention." What pings me about it is that the motivation behind it feels moreso him telling a player to just shut up before they are pressured than just a general observation.

It's starting to become a theme as well where he is discouraging conversation. He thought the beginning was just noise and I can't recall from memory if there were other instances but this brings another example as to LUV discouraging discussion and I don't like it at all.

/Gin

[Infinity 324]

How is he discouraging discussion?

[The Thinker]

I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics

I want to based off her experience, but so far, her confidence hasn't been too assuring.

What Mastina experience do you have upon which this is based!?

[The Thinker]

And how did I, again, mangle a quote!?

[Pine-A-Tonics]

How is he discouraging discussion?

I'm not sure where Gin's going with that, exactly, but playing it safe stifles discussion, as does limiting choices to the popular ones. We see this all the time when people get on others' case over a vanity vote when there are viable wagons.

I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?

The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.

Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.

Yes but he's a player I feel that is set in his ways in terms of play style. He can't help it at this point. Voting for Rouge Leader is something he can control.

Consider these. LUV is limiting choices, attributing things to play style instead of motive, and generally discouraging independent thought.

Please note that I'm not at all convinced that the above is alignment-indicative, (I think it deserves some discussion post-game,) but I think that's what Gin is getting at.

Pine

[Pine-A-Tonics]

post 134, post 261, post 312 are the posts that pinged me from earlier on.

It's the fact that he'll say he doesn't like the discussion at hand but didn't give off an alternative.


like, one can go "Hey I think this conversation is just noisy, lets talk about this instead because I find it to be blah blah."

Do you understand or am I being asinine?

/Gin

[The Thinker]

Thinkbig hadn't said shit at this point in the game, in or out of the hydra.

This was cleared up, I meant gin.

Can you give some actual content now? The fluff plus your odd tone is worrying me.

Oh yeah, gamma replaced in so I should be able to read him. Hi gamma!

My bad, just going by what I saw and I sint see anyone immediately bring it up so figured it was missed.

Do I have an odd tone? Hmph.
I'd blame it on being in a Hydra but Think hasn't really said a thing yet. Maybe it's this sepia background were using!

I'm kidding, but like, I don't see what you're saying. Is my tone off in a scummy way or...?

- Ari (still)

[Desperado]

Seemed overly emotional/defensive. It's not an issue that Think hasn't said anything and never was so it looked out of place.

[Infinity 324]

How is he discouraging discussion?

I'm not sure where Gin's going with that, exactly, but playing it safe stifles discussion, as does limiting choices to the popular ones. We see this all the time when people get on others' case over a vanity vote when there are viable wagons.

I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?

The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.

Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.

Yes but he's a player I feel that is set in his ways in terms of play style. He can't help it at this point. Voting for Rouge Leader is something he can control.

Consider these. LUV is limiting choices, attributing things to play style instead of motive, and generally discouraging independent thought.

Please note that I'm not at all convinced that the above is alignment-indicative, (I think it deserves some discussion post-game,) but I think that's what Gin is getting at.

Pine

The whole conversation is talking about why LUV townreads AJ, so he wasnt discouraging non-standard choices.

[Infinity 324]

post 134, post 261, post 312 are the posts that pinged me from earlier on.

It's the fact that he'll say he doesn't like the discussion at hand but didn't give off an alternative.


like, one can go "Hey I think this conversation is just noisy, lets talk about this instead because I find it to be blah blah."

Do you understand or am I being asinine?

/Gin

I get it yeah. I need to do a little more in depth look into him though including meta.

[Infinity 324]

I'm kidding, but like, I don't see what you're saying. Is my tone off in a scummy way or...?

Yes, it sounds fake.

[Nero Cain]

Wait - you played on Wake's forum at USMB???

no, I've just played with all of House, Ika and Silverwolf before they were banned and Titus, Math, Wake, and Kling numerous times.

Where did Titus write me off as bad town?

I'm to lazy to ISO to get the quotes but basically when I said your vote on Titus was bad then she was all like "oh hey how is this diffrent than all the others times I've been wagoned unjustly." or something along those lines.

I sometimes wonder if Mastina just RNGs her reads and then tries to explain them. That would be funny.

Hey, lets talk theory!

So, as scum, I think that calling a player town is kinda buddying or pocketing to use the new jargon. I think alot of players are stupidly OMGUSY so when a scum player calls another player town then its less of a chance they get voted and I think, atleast subliminally, when a player knows they are town and are being called town they kinda go "Oh hey X is reading me correctly so they must be town too!" This is my first time playing with Mastina but I've played several times with her on the Mastin2 account and I know that she has entered the game in a similar style in the past. Was she scum that game? Town? She likely does this regardless of alignment although she's fairly scummy here.

I think Nero is the only person reading this game the same as me

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/flails fists in uncontrollable, pants-soiling fury

ah, the good ole' days when hydra diss was considered a scumtell.

Rogue Leader: BBMolla

Why him and not me?