Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Nachomamma8]

lol Molla isn't getting lynched today

you're lynching thinker with me right?

[TheWayItEnds]

are you adverse to anti getting rogue leader?

[Nachomamma8]

no clue what that is. if it's something scum could do decent damage in then hell yes I am.

[Nachomamma8]

also I think the vote I just put down sucks. damn.
I am needed elsewhere; I'll be back later.

[TheWayItEnds]

ROGUE CREW
The Rogue Crew is a neighborhood of players that is chosen by the Rogue Leader
Rogue Leader is voted by town at each day.
A plurality is needed on Day 1 with a majority needed on following days to replace the leader
The leader picks the crew after lynch before night begins.
The crew can change night to night.
The crew may have various abilities.
The crew is limited to a maximum of thirty percent of ALIVE players.Rogue Crew is a neighborhood of players that is chosen by the Rogue LeaderRogue Leader is voted by town at each day. A plurality is needed on Day 1 with a majority needed on following days to replace the leaderThe leader picks the crew after lynch before night begins.The crew can change night to night.The crew may have various abilities.The crew is limited to a maximum of thirty percent of ALIVE players.

its funny because this is the second time this post has been linked to your slot.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

FWIW your math is wrong. You take the percentage of the whole populace, not the assumed scum:town ratio. 4/17 is 23% scum ration, 5/17 is 29%. Not that it's completely relevant to anything, but that's how you'd measure it.

Aj's posting at this point is what seems like just enough to be just enough.

e.g. it's nothing

I assume it's 13 v 4 like Firebringer's last 17 player large theme.

In other news I reconnected with the spirits and they've tentatively told me that the Piper and Princess are town and that alban is scummy (i;e I reread the game to answer Heartless's question and noticed that alban was sort of dodging the Titus issue on page 2 which doesn't look good).

As were like half the thread, especially including the player in the post above?

People can still talk about me, but that doesn't mean I have to address every point when I don't believe anything good will come out of it.

The selective push does tell things to me. Namely, that whatever your alignment is, you're likely doing something scum want. The hyper, extreme defense of your awkward push on Pine says as much. Then people pretend you were not trying. Major bullshit. Even if you argue senantics on awkward, you were trying to have Pine lynched.

No, not in any way, no. Infinity was not trying to have Pine lynched on page 1. You could argue that he could have been trying to get votes to go and therefore stay in that direction, you could argue that he was trying to look busy, but you definitely can't argue that he was trying to lynch a player in RVS.

what was the best star wars movie?

This one.

I like that he was one of the first people to mention that we should discuss who should be the Rouge Leader for Night 1. I don't really like the assumptions he made about the setup. Null overall.

Um, what exactly about that made you like him? If anything, that's NAI. Scum can take initiative too. Also, I know later on you realized that he knew about the setup from the OP, but of you were concerned that he knew too much, why not share that earlier instead of waiting for someone to ask?

What assumptions specifically do you not like?

PP comes out of the woodwork just to inquire about himself; doesn't seem like someone whose trying to solve the game to me

Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.

Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.

Kling in in exactly the same boat as PP.

(But I like the other parts of the post as well)

... Go on?

Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez

This is god awful.

About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.

Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.

/Gin

Yeah, I feel the same way here. I think the rogue leader votes are going to be important later on to look back on, so voting yourself really isn't helpful to anyone. I'm also someone who loves the use of neighborhoods/neighborizors in general, for anyone that's played my games, and I think they're a lot more powerful than most people give them credit for.

Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...

Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.

Not you, Heartless's 224

LUV is pinging me

Hi Cakey! ^_^

Anti told me to talk to you because he thought you were being horsey with him. I'm having a little trouble getting a bead on you since we're really out of step in terms of reads. It mildly troubles me that we've both expressed an opinion in direct opposition to yours (Post 38 and Post 144, regarding Princess) but you apparently don't want an explanation from either of us. I know you're not a random person who's never played with us so that makes me think you're avoiding us.

Can you be any more descriptive in your Princess townread or your LUV scumread? Please?

-TTH

This post along with the following one look authentically town to me; granted, I don't know the Heartless scumgame and while I assume it's pretty tight, I feel good about them for now just based on pure towny-logic alone. For one, I don't see a world where scum bothers going after Cakes for failing to respond to opposite opinions to them; if anything, it makes the most sense for scum to either let that go since it creates more opposition, or to just call it scum like the rest of us and just jump right on the wagon.

The thing that convinces me more though is that TTH is here trying to understand Cakez motivations instead of just saying "LOLZ OBVSCUM" , attacking him for it and immediately piling on which would have been easy enough. That's a towny mindset if I've ever seen it.

I always Townread TTH.

I remember you from Gistou but not from anything else. :S

Up to that point I'd only made two posts: Post 12 and Post 144. Were you townreading either of those? I'm a little lost on the nature of this read, mostly the described history of "always townreading" me.

-TTH

Along the same lines, questioning someone's TR on yourself because it's bullshit seems overtly towny.

Spoiler:

How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?

Cakez, I'm concerned about your question as it's feels like a loaded one. Correct me if I'm wrong but you're asking why a townie should act...townie.

It just feels like you're saying people aren't acting scummy and you want them too.

/Gin

Yeah I'm dumping this point. I was wrong I think, too much evidence to the contrary.

"Confirmed" is used by newer (read: bad) players the way that millennials use "literally"

As a millennial this both offends me and is also probably true

Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...

Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.

Not you, Heartless's 224

LUV is pinging me

the SAAAAAAASS

i only saw the v/la post after i flipped the page from fire's prod post.

ari still has a reputation for being a lurksack as scum so i don't know why you would go out of your way to give me shit for that.

I'm aware of Ari's lurking as scum, I just wanted to make a joke.

This avoids the question

No it doesn't. You asked why you would fake your response, I said you probably couldn't help but fake it.

Not that, the "what is fake about it?" that was the initial question.

Nero scumreading me is unsurprising, probably town really as I think he'd want to keep me around for a later mislynch as scum
LUV's "I read his ISO and older games and don't think this is town!cakez" is total bullshit though, especially since it came right after I said he was pinging me
Molla's naked voting is shity too but iirc Molla never explains things
Princess's complete lack of game awareness with their vote on me for Rogue Leader is odd but I want to say it's derptown, as I think scum wouldn't want to stick out so much with trying to put someone being wagoned in a power position
I'm not really scumreading Titus anymore (she's null now) so

VOTE: AJ

P-edit: Hi TTH! I'm not avoiding you guys, I just didn't think to ask about your Princess read. TBH I can't remember why I was town reading them which isn't really a good sign so I'm going to reread them and Klingon since Klingon is being wagoned and I have no read there.
My LUV scumread was initially from how it feels like he's following the crowd (sheeping my alban scumread, sheeping a vote for Infinity rogue leader, sheeping Molla on Piper's post restriction being annoying) and then jumping to respond to a joke that wasn't aimed at him felt weird. And then his vote with some really weak reasons on me is terrible.

VOTE: AJ
Reposting this in case Fire misses my vote in the spoiler

This post is incredibly wishy washy.

But that, plus the fact that TTH convinced me that PP is scummy, making klingon a bit townier, means cakez is a better vote.

What?

I think it's pretty self explanatory why I liked him. I wasn't concerned with his assumptions, I just wasn't a big fan of them since we haven't had a flip yet.

Why was my vote for SC awful?

[TheWayItEnds]

did we really both full wall posts so you could ask that question?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah, I was way too lazy to edit things out.

I'm willing to compromise on TheThinker. How much time do we have left until deadline?

[TheWayItEnds]

actually the answer you were looking for there was no.

no.

we.

did.

not.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Trying hard not to replace out again..

I still can't get into this game but I strongly feel there is one scum in SC, Mastina, and TheThinker

VOTE: TheThinker

[Desperado]

you're lynching thinker with me right?

nah

I'm on AJ but I don't mind the Thinker wagon either. Like to see where they go.

[Nachomamma8]

oh, and titus if you're arguing that i'm confirmed town for not outing a secret vote:

If Nacho was scum with a secret vote, you would see:

"hahaha let's put this wagon at L-1 for reactions!"



"i'm a cop i'm a cop GET THE FUCK OFF ME"



NACHO MASTERMIND MAFIA: "hey scumpartner when some knucklehead gets to L-1 I want you to find a reason to vote him so I can deliver the killing blow"

"hey guys i'm not really worried i'm totally town but i'm safe at L-2!"

[TheWayItEnds]

...ok but what do sharks have to do with that

[Heartless]

people are writing antihero off too easily.
his scum game ends up being bad on average but he has okay scum range (aka he does have the ability to turn it on); he's not out of scum range yet. doesn't mean he's a great lynch (my vote was more "hi!" which is why whoever asked me about it got a snark answer), but it does mean that all of the confidence around him is misplaced.

fair enough. if you don't want me you've still got infinity and nc to choose from.

[Heartless]

also your thinker vote is excellent

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 1.14

Pine-A-Tonics [2] mastina, Klingoncelt
SirCakez [2] Nero Cain, Aj The Epic
mastina [1] Drunken Piper,
Lil Uzi Vert [1] Pine-A-Tonics
Aj The Epic [4] SirCakez, BBmolla, Titus, Desperado
The Thinker [5] Infinity 324, Heartless, TheWayItEnds, Nachomamma8, Lil Uzi Vert

Not Voting - [2] Aeronaut, The Thinker

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 To Lynch.

Rogue Leader Vote:

Desperado (1) Infinity 324,
BBMolla (1): Titus
Infinity 324 (5): Desperado, Drunken Piper, Lil Uzi Vert, Heartless, Mastina
Nero Cain (2): BBmolla, Pine-A-Tonics
Heartless (5): Nero Cain, AJ The Epic, The Thinker, Klingoncelt, TheWayItEnds

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-01-24 15:26:20)!

[SirCakez]

Where? I ISOed you and saw nothing.

I guess it wasn't explicitly stated but when Desperado was talking to Uzi about my vote for Rogue leader I responded in post 793:

Spoiler:

@ LUV: It's bad because you are suggesting that AJ as scum would feel pressured to go with the crowd on the Rogue Leader vote when that just isn't true. He doesn't even have to think infinity is scum to justify it either, he just needs to be able to defend what he is declaring as his best townread.

^This is not a risky thing to do as scum and suggesting otherwise is...bad.

And in fact my reason for voting Heartless was neither. I just wanted to see what happens if there was a counterwagon to the rouge leader infinity vote, specifically because I think it was becoming too easy.

That it wasn't that I felt Heartless was scummy (by context of what Desp suggested) but rather I wanted to vote heartless to see what came of it. If nothing else, the way I've talked to Infinity from like post 255 onward should give it away tonally that I read him as town.

Now that you've explained yeah I can see it, but that quote is

really

not showing anything.

Also speaking of which, in my iso run of yours (was searching side by side to find your own townreads), I see you have a mountain of scum reads. Me, Alban (before replace), titus, TTH, Kling, and Luv. And in 508 you say:

I'm waiting until I develop a really solid townread. I don't have a super strong one atm.

Along with some shade tossing towards Aero slot earlier in the game. Got anything for us in terms of townreads? Especially ones that aren't shade tossing at the other end (aka Mastina's)? Like your one explicit town message is 'mastina's reads suck but she's town hurdur'. Funnily PP (mastina's former) was the only explicit townread you had before and your read on her was much the same (derptown). It's a rather condescending end to a read that allows for you to ignore whatever the slot says while townreading them.

And you also have way too many scum reads to actually exist in this game. Even someone like me who focuses on scumreading doesn't even get to the kind of count you have.

Titus is null now, I never scumread TTH, LUV is null too.
My only strong scumreads atm are Klingon, Thinker and you.

I have no clue how you could have missed my changing scumreads in my ISO.
For townreads I've got Heartless, mastina, Piper, Infinity, and (slight) Pine-a-Tonics.

The Thinker
Molla
SirCakez
Pine

I can compromise on a Cakes lynch if no one wants to lynch Pine-A-Tonics. Same with Thinker.

baaaaaah
baaaaaah

Rogue Leader Vote: <3less

[Desperado]

yo Cakez if you have Infinity and Heartless both as town why are you splitting votes

[Desperado]

Nvm, they both have 5. Let me rephrase: Why Heartless over Infinity?

[SirCakez]

I feel slightly better about Heartless then Infinity
The way TTH talked to me really felt super duper town and Infinity hasn't had a "obvtown" post like that

[TheWayItEnds]

does someone on the heartless rogue leader not have a vote?

Fire is that VC correct?

~My mistake

[Infinity 324]

Cakez feels town

[The Thinker]

...ok but what do sharks have to do with that

You're trolling right?

also your thinker vote is excellent

Nope, it really isn't.
Apparently nobody can read us correctly this game.

- Ari

[The Thinker]

Not that I've made it easy, I'll admit that. It still sucks though.

[The Thinker]

lol Molla isn't getting lynched today

you're lynching thinker with me right?

Why Nacho?

You can read me well! What have I done wrong this game!?