Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[Aristophanes]

There are 3 scum out of 13. Excluding yourself, you should be townreading 9 people

I honestly disagree, but that is a theory point more than anything else.

[Aristophanes]

Oh look, a pagetop!

[Nachomamma8]

I know exactly what I need music wise.
JAM

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Same concept Ari, I know this post is bigger than the others but can we go for a 3 piece?

On my first read through of the first few pages I missed. I was left of the opinion that mastina was game solving. But re-reading through I missed parts of thier posts taht I do not like.

First off post 22 is just bad

post 26 starts off great, but then falls into the same "Why didn't pine pick me?"

post 34 more crying about not being picked.

Then alot of posting I like. With the exceptions of posts

106
224

which I cant even follow.

@mastina give a tldr on some of these, good lord.

TLDR: Good townies have no reason to be posting shit like "why didnt you choose me" it jsut creates WIFOM for no reason. and further communication with pine (like dreal is doing) just muddy's those waters further! It's not helping town and he knows better than to play like that.

I know I said I was going to revisit my death tunnel on dreal, but I cant find anything that makes me want to move my vote.

Mastina looks better as the day goes on, but I still question those earlier comments, and I don't have the same super town feeling. more of a town-lite (and liek all lite beers, does not leave me satisfied)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Okay Ari is stealing my page tops and like. When can I start crying?

Ari don't respond to this

[Nachomamma8]

Pine, you do realise it is optimal for you to do nothing but prodge here. Every time you post we get more information/

I am getting far more "Pine interactions" reads than I thought I would originally, but here's another Pine interactions read.
I liked that he was coaching the coach and don't think the coach would coach him to coach the coach, and I love that the sentence I just created makes sense.

[mastina]

Am I townreading people too easily?

If so, you're probably less guilty of it than I am. I have a stronger townread on Fate and Prism than you do.
I have a stronger read on SirCakez than you do.
I have a weaker read on drealmerz than you do--but that's the one and only read I have weaker than you; I have three reads stronger.

Aristophanes could be town is my read on him--I don't think he should be the D1 lynch at the least.
So, yes, the pool would be Vaxkiller/Monokuma/Jin/BTD6_maker/Aeronaut.

In that pool of five, there's either two, or three, scum. (Depending on Aristophanes.)
I could townread, or scumread, any of those names. But I can't make a determination there beyond what you could.

I think Jin/BTD6 are probably scum.
Vaxkiller/Monokuma/Aeronaut is a tougher call--there's a scum in there almost certainly, yes, but who is harder to tell.
I wish I could help you there, I really do, but this is an area where I'm weaker than you are. I was hoping YOU could help ME, not the other way around.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Spoiler: Nacho, some mood music

[Nachomamma8]

in the early part of this jam session it was rap and pop and hipster
now it's 80's and house music

[Nachomamma8]

or not really house music
I don't know what the fuck it is actually
but it's what I needed right now

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Listen to an artist named ZHU plz

[mastina]

I know exactly what I need music wise.
JAM

This may or may not be an appropriate selection.

[camn]

[Nachomamma8]

Listen to an artist named ZHU plz

faded is already on the playlist

[Aristophanes]

Same concept Ari, I know this post is bigger than the others but can we go for a 3 piece?

On my first read through of the first few pages I missed. I was left of the opinion that mastina was game solving. But re-reading through I missed parts of thier posts taht I do not like.

First off post 22 is just bad

post 26 starts off great, but then falls into the same "Why didn't pine pick me?"

post 34 more crying about not being picked.

Then alot of posting I like. With the exceptions of posts

106
224

which I cant even follow.

@mastina give a tldr on some of these, good lord.

TLDR: Good townies have no reason to be posting shit like "why didnt you choose me" it jsut creates WIFOM for no reason. and further communication with pine (like dreal is doing) just muddy's those waters further! It's not helping town and he knows better than to play like that.

I know I said I was going to revisit my death tunnel on dreal, but I cant find anything that makes me want to move my vote.

Mastina looks better as the day goes on, but I still question those earlier comments, and I don't have the same super town feeling. more of a town-lite (and liek all lite beers, does not leave me satisfied)

On the posts he linked: The first one is bad, I totally agree. It was a bad idea to start a 1v1. Easy as that. Easy opinion.

The two where she was "crying about not being picked" were pretty standard "let me fill you in" posts, and the 2 "incomprehensible" ones were standard for Mastina. I know he probably has no experience on which to base this, but it's true, and I think it should have been deducible by that point.

I dislike the shit flinging and backing down at the end of the post. It all read a little weak and wishy washy, but to wnd it with "town-lite" seems like a cop out. Like an "I'm supposed to scumread you but I have to ease into it" kinda read.

Also, I hate that he called his Dreal "push" a death tunnel in multiple posts. It wasn't a death tunnel. It was barely a tunnel. It was a push and a read (barely). Overstating it was unneeded and reinforcing that overstatement just is weird. Too peculiar for my liking.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Listen to an artist named ZHU plz

faded is already on the playlist

You made my love for you know no bounds

[Aristophanes]

Okay Ari is stealing my page tops and like. When can I start crying?

I'm doing it accidentally, if that helps...

Ari don't respond to this

Oh...whoops!

[Nachomamma8]

This post looks bad. If Mastina scumreads Aeronaut then the pro-Town thing to do would be to try to explain it. It is easy for scum to do this in order to defer giving reasoning because you know your reasoning will be under scrutiny.I consider this likely as I myself did it in Open 642 and came under a lot of pressure for it.

BTD6 certainly gets town points for pushing Mastina; I don't think that someone who "defers giving reasoning because said reasoning will be under scrutiny" as scum is likely to join in and maintain mastin hatred.

[mastina]

You know.
I kinda am coming to:
Vaxkiller/Jin + one of Monokuma/Aeronaut here.

Nacho, that's what I'm getting, and I don't feel like that's wrong for me to have gotten.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Now Ari, the grand finally I need from you, thoughts here please <3

Does anyone actually believe that Fate is town? All he has been doing is spreading miss-information, providing horrible reasons for his voting 418 432 Hes not even reading the thread 350 604!

Asks questions, but refuses to answer small legitimate ones asked of him: 577 578 579 580. All this translates to scum, and hes having a blast doing it. I'm having fun with this game too, but I can guarantee the scum are having even more fun.

Wait is camn allowed to post freely too or is that just flavor <_<

Worried?

Pine's tellign the truth here


Whichis exactly what I said

Nacho first round scum pick

Fate second round town pick

???

profit

You modified this a bit, and your using fate to defend yourself?

Nacho was a first round pick, Fate. You were a second round pick.

Hate to burst your bubble.

I know I said this before but post 628 reeks of someone thinking of a great joke, but has to wait for the right moment, when the blurt it out all the sudden and it sounds super rehearsed, like they have been waiting to say it for soooo long. As soon as you rolled scum you thought of this right?


VOTE: Fate
I still want dreal dead, once fate flips maybe more people will believe my dreal case.

@Fate

Found this when reading your iso:

I also never called Gin* scum, Vaxkiller

Interesting how that came out of nowhere

You wouldn't answer my question so I assumed it.

[mastina]

Like.
Would Vaxkiller + Secret Agent Jin + Aeronaut be plausible?
It kinda feels right to me, but I'm not sure by how much.

[Nachomamma8]

Your reasoning is flawed. It can be used to explain that it is more likely that Pine picked optimal picks but not guarantee it. What stops someone from entering the WIFOM game and then coming to the conclusion that Pine made WIFOM picks?

I have to say that I think BTD6 scumreading mastina because "she's wrong with how Pine made picks" and "she didn't elaborate on her read" is bananas reasoning; don't have the experience with him to make a judgement call on alignment, though.

[Nachomamma8]

Like.
Would Vaxkiller + Secret Agent Jin + Aeronaut be plausible?
It kinda feels right to me, but I'm not sure by how much.

I'm not sure how much until I finish jamming through remaining players.

[Nachomamma8]

Which didn't seem possible before but certainly seems possible now.

[mastina]

One thing I'm looking at is Vaxkiller's Defcon iso and trying to compare it to this game, but I can't tell if it's similar or different, and how much so, and if it would be important, if it's actually relevant.