Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

I could also vote LUV but I'd rather see AJ and/or Cakez flip before I make a determination on that.

just to clarify your lynch order is Kling>>>AJ>>>>cakez>>>Luv?

Infinity, Nacho, Desperado, and Aeronaut are my choices.

Why was I kicked out?

mastin is too good of a potential town player to get rid of d1.

whiteknight moar!

[Heartless]

A remediation of this readslist would likely include demoting Lil uzi vert and mastin to the dregs.
Spoiler:


The only one I would keep in the null tier is TWIE. I think Titus is mildly town for her most recent push on Infinity. While I don't agree with the points that Infinity's been especially "agreeable" or "buddying," the push itself feels genuine fro m posts like Post 1201 and Post 1209. Keeping in mind that catchups are often look "town" given the poster's advantage of doing everything after-the-fact, Aeronaut's catch ups still look town to me. He's reacting to mostly important things and the commentary does suggest a genuine reads development.bably demote BBMolla, Klingoncelt, and Drunken Piper to null, but I'm not even close to being ready to quibble with that yet.The only one I would keep in the null tier is TWIE. I think Titus is mildly town for her most recent push on Infinity. While I don't agree with the points that Infinity's been especially "agreeable" or "buddying," the push itself feels genuine from posts like Post 1201 and Post 1209. Keeping in mind that catchups are often look "town" given the poster's advantage of doing everything after-the-fact, Aeronaut's catch ups still look town to me. He's reacting to mostly important things and the commentary does suggest a genuine reads development.

Thank you very much for showing up

Uh...vote klingon? Please?

I will if it's the only way to get to a consensus but honestly, I don't have too much optimism for Klingon flipping scum.

[Infinity 324]

whiteknight moar!

I'm pretty sure that's not what a WK is.

What do you think about voting thinker, TTH?

[Nero Cain]

explain to me what whiteknighting is infinity.

[Heartless]

Why was I kicked out?

The other four people I listed are just ahead of you.

[Infinity 324]

{Nero Cain, Desperado, Heartless}
{Drunken Piper, Aeronaut, Titus, SirCakez, Nachomamma8, Aj the Epic}
Null: {Pine, TheWayItEnds}
{Klingoncelt, BBMolla, Lil uzi vert, mastina, The Thinker}

something like that

[Infinity 324]

explain to me what whiteknighting is infinity.

WKing is when scum townreads a player under a lot of pressure but generally without defending them too hard to get towncred after the flip.

[Heartless]

whiteknight moar!

I'm pretty sure that's not what a WK is.

What do you think about voting thinker, TTH?

That's another lynch I would do just for the sake of consensus.

As a former scumbuddy of Ari's, I'm aware of his tendency to lurk as scum. I've also been burned by thinking that was the sole guideline to reading him (Badass). In terms of his raw content there isn't much there so it's a craps shoot whether or not he flips scum.

[Heartless]

VOTE: LUV

[mastina]

No see the joke is that he wants to know how to town/scum read me and I responded by telling him what tone to read my posts in. Because I'm telling him how to read me but it doesn't help him at all because I'm being intentionally obtuse.

Yes, exactly!

[mastina]

If anything, rogue leader DP means that everyone's gotta talk in limericks all night.

If this is meant to be an argument against, it is doing an awfully poor job.

[mastina]

(Also, Aeronaut may actually be scum here.)

[mastina]

(why are you townreading someone for making a bad vote? even if it's in her meta to make bad votes, that definitely doesn't make her more town)

Debated whether or not to actually give a serious answer, but ultimately, decided:
Because.

[mastina]

Still want mastin to answer my questions in 1051, even if it isn't right now, at some point that'd be nice

Sure, some point. When I feel like it and you bring it up, I will. I don't feel like it now and don't think it's necessary to force myself to feel like it, so.

[SirCakez]

This Pine wagon sucks,

??

They're town.

Kling wagon is meh. Like I know that I said I'd be ok with her as a dl lynch but I kinda feel like her lack of doing anything and being useless is NAI. I mean it

IS

better than a no lynch but it seems like rotten low hanging fruit and there are much better lynches in Thinker or Mastin.

And speaking of Thinker/Pine. I think Pines "don't lynch him until we can talk to him" is p bad. Like no one knows if he'll even be back before the deadline and I'm not really willing to trust his V'LA status since he's abused that as scum in Princess Bride.

Klingon does things as town though. Here she's just sheeping and coasting.

[Infinity 324]

@cakez, aero, thinker, aj: Get your vote somewhere useful or at least make a conscious decision not to.

[Infinity 324]

nvm cakez

[Infinity 324]

Unofficial and possibly inaccurate VC

Klingon [5] Inf, desp, cakez, pine, titus
mastin [1] nero
Pine-A-Tonics [4] mastina, Klingoncelt, Nachomamma8, piper
SirCakez [1] Aj The Epic
Lil Uzi Vert [1] heartless
Aj The Epic [1] BBmolla
The Thinker [2] TheWayItEnds, Lil Uzi Vert

Not Voting - [2] Aeronaut, The Thinker

[Infinity 324]

Ok I get trying to start new wagons but these 4 vanity wagons should not be a thing

[mastina]

I read the flowchart and am now more suspicious of mastin.

To elaborate on this, mastin seems very calm and confident this game. She does seem to be lost, she's not changing reads a lot, she's not rambling, but she seems to have a good handle on it. Not everything in the flowchart pointed to her!scum, but more of it does than not.

Well honestly the reason I feel this calm and confident is because it still kinda feels like, "we're almost in the RVS", stage of the game. As in, yeah, we're out of it. We're past the RVS. But it feels like we're

just

past it. It feels like the game hasn't "really" begun, so to speak. So my reads aren't evolving as much as they would in a faster-paced game, because we're...not actually moving fast. At least it doesn't feel like we are.

The game feels stagnant. The game feels stale. The game itself feels like it's unmoving. Like very little is being done. And when the game itself feels that way...well, I have an empathetic viewpoint of the game. Regardless of my alignment (though I guess moreso as town than scum), I "become what the game deems needed". And right now, I don't really feel needed...anywhere. I don't feel like I actually need to do anything. So I'll sit back, give some commentary here and there, and mostly just note things I think may be important, commenting on what I feel like commenting on.

Which means I have to wonder where you got the idea I wasn't rambling, because that's basically the majority of what I've done? I know I certainly haven't given much game content. Well, there's been content, but not, "pushy casey" content. More, "raising points as I go, in the background" content, and even there, it's mostly, "...because?".

Butyeah. I know we've got 50 pages of game content here. But it feels like we're still in the same zone we were at the time I came in, on page 18. So in spite of there being 35 or so extra pages, the game hasn't actually changed, and as a result...neither have I. Not quite sure how to word this exactly. I just don't feel like there's been much of anything which was actually important happening. I kinda got excited, got hyped, when Nacho replaced in, but while he's posted stuff, he's clearly not yet in his stride (he's like...doing warmups in preparation for hitting his running form), and while TWIE is town, he's not exactly someone who contributes the most in townbloc discussions. Which mostly leaves Desperado and Heartless. Desperado's reads clash with mine and I don't think we have a common ground there, and Heartless is just...being weird. I've said I'll trust them. I've said I'll give them time to reaffirm they're town. But they're not the beacon of towniness I know they can be, which would allow me to easily trade off ideas with them in a back-and-forth.

Basically what I'm saying is that this game needs a jump of energy, I suppose. I don't know how to give it one. I could try and force it. But it'd feel unnatural. And it'd put me under a lot of stress which I'm not sure I can handle right now. And I'm not sure how much I could maintain it, especially during a time where I'm V/LA. Which is why I'm mostly just kinda...waiting for something to change.

[Infinity 324]

^ that is what I mean by rambling

And while nice, it's the kind of ramble that I can easily see being fake.

[TheWayItEnds]

and while TWIE is town, he's not exactly someone who contributes the most in townbloc discussions.

wow.

rude.

[TheWayItEnds]

I bet we've gotten at least 3 votes for "lurking"

Amirite?

we could just lynch thinker because this is the worst post in the game and then move on with our lives.

[Nero Cain]

Why was I kicked out?

The other four people I listed are just ahead of you.

[Nero Cain, BBMolla, nacho]
[Drunken Piper, Lil uzi vert, Desperado, AJ, mastin]
[SirCakez, Klingoncelt, Infinity 324]
null line ---> [Titus, TWIE, Aeronaut]
[Pine-A-Tonics]

It looks like I'm in your top tier of town reads here so? I mean maybe (and it seems like the only reasonable explanation you can give) is that these were from different heads but in 1265 TTH reposted the same list so I assume that she posted both or that you two agreed with it. If I use your words then your list looks kinda like


[Nero Cain, BBMolla, nacho]
[Drunken Piper, Desperado, AJ]
[SirCakez, Klingoncelt, Infinity 324]
null line ---> [Titus, TWIE, Aeronaut]
[Pine-A-Tonics,Lil uzi vert, mastin]

and that's not even taking into account "I would also probably demote

BBMolla

, Klingoncelt, and

Drunken Piper

to null, but I'm not even close to being ready to quibble with that yet."

So yes, I'd like to know why I was demoted from top tier town and leapfrogged by someone on your null list (Aero) and someone that you were considering moving to null (Piper)

[Heartless]

Ok I get trying to start new wagons but these 4 vanity wagons should not be a thing

Maybe it shouldn't be a vanity wagon.

Quick show of hands, how many people are townreading LUV?