Newbie 1770: Water Game Over

[-Grey-]

Sorry Moogs, you know i love you. Its just that I read through the entirety of one of Tiers newbie previous games yesterday and it seems the general meta is to vote for people on the first day trying to get close to lynch to put some pressure/get some info out of the person so Im just trying to emulate that. I dont get a very scummy read from you but i could be wrong nonetheless. Plus with only a few days left of day 1 it seems like we need to pull our fingers out and make a decision on who to lynch. I know its a shitty reason/explanation but its our first game after all.

How is this town, RC?

[Fykus]

apologies, i meant i read through one of greys newbie games**
got em mixed up

[Fykus]

MooginSoosy

nydushermain

Pepchoninga

JackChaos

Formerfish

TierShift

Grey

RC

[Fykus]

note that those arent in order within the colours (forgot to do that)

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeahhhhhhhh okay my philosophy at this point is there's too many people doing terrible and anti-town shit and hiding behind 'oh I'm a newbie.'

It's time to start clearing out that crowd of people.

I'm deciding if I'd rather vote Fykus or JackChaos.

[-Grey-]

I'm deciding if I'd rather vote Fykus or JackChaos.

I'm good with either one.

[Fykus]

Can either of you explain to me how im being anti town please?

[-Grey-]

VOTE: TierShift

Partially cause he voted for me, and partially because i dont think there would be 2 inexperienced scums on their first game (thered be 1 experienced person there to guide the other newbie).

Newbscum often votes the IC in RVS.

UNVOTE: TierShift

Undoing my vote on TS for now, just because some coherent arguments for some other people here are starting to appear. I'll withhold my vote for now.

You say there are coherent arguments for other players being Scum, but simply unvote instead of support one of those arguments.

Cautious scum tell.

Then in the next post he just up and ragequits. Like, if thats not Toto admitting he fucked up trying to pretend hes not scum then I dont know what is.

"Aha, you did this thing that independently proves you are Scum"

I call it the "gotcha tell". Town does gotchas too, but you're really putting in the work to sell this one.

Why would a townie need to ask about the existence of day talk between scum members? Ofcourse youd want to know this if you were scum, but you wouldnt want to seem scummy by asking about it so youd phrase it this exact way by mentioning the OP.

Scummy shade casting.
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Good to see we've finally got another slot up and talking, now we can take actions if need be.

By which I mean now we can try to figure out if that slot is scum or not, like you cant interrogate someone that isnt here

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These two quotes are a lot of work to try and look town and you don't actually ask any questions in them to try to read me.

All you were concerned about were appearances.

VOTE: Moogin

Sorry Moogs, you know i love you. Its just that I read through the entirety of one of Tiers newbie previous games yesterday and it seems the general meta is to vote for people on the first day trying to get close to lynch to put some pressure/get some info out of the person so Im just trying to emulate that. I dont get a very scummy read from you but i could be wrong nonetheless. Plus with only a few days left of day 1 it seems like we need to pull our fingers out and make a decision on who to lynch. I know its a shitty reason/explanation but its our first game after all.

This doesn't make sense from a town mindset at all.

MooginSoosy

nydushermain

Pepchoninga

JackChaos

Formerfish

TierShift

Grey

RC

Three scumreads, but you vote YOUR TOP TOWNREAD.

[Fykus]

Fair points, ive made myself look retarded.

VOTE: unvote

[Pepchoninga]

MooginSoosy

nydushermain

Pepchoninga

JackChaos

Formerfish

TierShift

Grey

RC

Is this a read list? Cuz to me it seems like you are listing us from least experienced to most experienced

That seems like a noob town, desperately trying to get the big guns out of the way.

[Pepchoninga]

Fair points, ive made myself look retarded.

VOTE: unvote

This is scum trying to water the situation.

[Pepchoninga]

VOTE: Fykus

[Pepchoninga]

Now what I'm confused about is how both fykus and jack are saying "hang me if you want you'll see you're wrong." That seems super suspicious? If you're town I feel like you shouldn't be so ready to hang, you should be fighting and trying to find someone who actually is scum in order to help the town win. If you're town and you just let yourself die, who does that help?

Naw it's my first game. If someone wants to think I'm scum and hang me, I'll laugh my ass off.

Wut ~.~

[-Grey-]

Fair points, ive made myself look retarded.

VOTE: unvote

Translation: You got me.

Town would have picked apart my case because they would have known it to be faulty due to their alignment.

This is resigned scum.

VOTE: Fykus

[RadiantCowbells]

I disagree with that interpretation of that post whether or not he's scum. hold up.

[-Grey-]

That's okay, I agree with it.

[Fykus]

Resigned scum? As if, if i was scum id be trying to pull all sorts of shit out of my ass trying to get this wagon off of me, but i would of been acting entirely different for the entire game so i wouldnt have this issue right now. Frankly i didnt pick apart your post because there isnt much to pick apart except for maybe 1 or two parts of it when you said i was "scummy shade casting".

MooginSoosy

nydushermain

Pepchoninga

JackChaos

Formerfish

TierShift

Grey

RC

Is this a read list? Cuz to me it seems like you are listing us from least experienced to most experienced

That seems like a noob town, desperately trying to get the big guns out of the way.

Basically i copied the player list from page 1 and colour coded the people i thought were scummy but forgot to put them in towniest to scummiest order. You say its noob town (which is correct) but then you vote for me anyway?

Fair points, ive made myself look retarded.

VOTE: unvote

This is scum trying to water the situation.

No, its a new player admitting he made a fool of himself and withholding his vote for a while. But anyways if youd like me to vote on somebody ill go back to my original opinion re: toto.

VOTE: Grey

[Fykus]

Sorry, got grey and rc mixed up.

VOTE: RC

[-Grey-]

Lol.

[Pepchoninga]

Oh loo, I meant noob scum. Sorry.

[Fykus]

[Formerfish]

I'll be around today. Yesterday was the first time I've seen my daughter in about a week, and as much as I like you chuckle fucks, I love that little girl to pieces and we had some cuddle time scheduled on the couch.

I'll be honest here too, I hate the tone this game has taken. I hated Toto for being over the top and cocksure about what he was doing, especially since I know that his initial premise was faulty to begin with. I really don't like the attitudes of RC or Grey from the little I've read in the last few days. RC scolded me here

And formerfish get the fuck over yourself I'm the saltiest mafia player ever and I don't rage at newbies for being newbies in the fucking newbie queue.

and then berates newbies left and right. I don't like the empty statements about how someone was obviously town, and then have nothing to back it up with. RC you and Grey both pulled that one.

So here's what I am doing. I am resetting my reads.

Tiershift needs prodded and needs to be put into a chair in the middle of a dark room with one weak ass light over him. Tier, you have been basically non-existent in this game, which wouldn't normally be an issue, but you are the IC. You claimed at one point that you wanted to keep your reads to yourself so that you didn't influence people. Then you naked voted and called for people to sheep you. Wouldn't you rather someone sheep a well thought out and logical read on someone than a naked vote. How can the rest of us sort you if we never see the man behind the curtain?

VOTE: unvote
VOTE: tiershift

[-Grey-]

That's a terrible excuse to not vote scum.

[Formerfish]

That's a terrible excuse to not vote scum.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, and especially when I talked about resetting all of my reads. (Which I guess to me means going back and reading everything over, but that might not be as obvious to everyone)

I think that I've found something scummy. I am going to explore that to see if I'm right or wrong.

Do you have a case on someone you want to make sure I read, then point it out. If you don't like my vote explain why it's a bad choice and who a better one would be. Jesus.

[-Grey-]

Posture harder, fish.

It's not like I nailed scum ON THIS VERY PAGE or anything.