Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[kuror0]

How does everything point to town Gerry?

What exactly does point at town gerry?

[inspectorscout]

Vote Count 2.1

ConManMick -

[0]

drealmerz7 -

[1] Jaack

Transcend -

[2] drealmerz7, Fro99er

Alisae -

[0]

Jaack -

[0]

Elena Fisher -

[0]

BigYoshiFan -

[0]

PeregrineV -

[0]

Fro99er -

[0]

Zachstralkita -

[1] Transcend

JaeReed -

[0]

kuror0 -

[0]

Clumsy -

[0]

gerryoat -

[1] PeregrineV

Not Voting -

ConManMick, Alisae, Elena Fisher, BigYoshiFan, Zachstralkita, JaeReed, kuror0, Clumsy, gerryoat

Mod Notes –

Oh yeah, I remember.

This

game.

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 to Lynch.

Day 2 Ends In (expired on 2017-02-09 09:23:53).

[Fro99er]

How does everything point to town Gerry?

What exactly does point at town gerry?

No idea. I was asking transcend because he said everything is pointing to town Gerry

[Transcend]

Scum hunting is purely genuine. I see a genuine non scum motivated thought process from him and i still think he hard town slipped.

Why is Alisae scum and do you agree with me that should he flip scum he will be white?

Due to Alisae sheeping everything that moves I'm not sure, it would be less likely but I wouldn't really rule it completely out. She sheeped Cloud at some point on fro9 but at that moment it was a weak push and no need to commit much, the wagon didn't grow that much so can't really tell if the disband from him on that wagon was just convenience or trying to avoid a partner lynch or if the initial join was a scum group effort to lynch a target. So yeah there are still many unknown things so I wouldn't rule out options at this point.

About why Alisae is scum.... really?

Is Alisae sheeping everything alignment indicative for you? I've played with him before. He's a sheep as town. I'm sure he's one as scum. I don't think Alisae being a sheep is alignment indicative.

[kuror0]

How does everything point to town Gerry?

What exactly does point at town gerry?

No idea. I was asking transcend because he said everything is pointing to town Gerry

not asking you, asking transcend something more precise that I'm interested.

[kuror0]

Is Alisae sheeping everything alignment indicative for you? I've played with him before. He's a sheep as town. I'm sure he's one as scum. I don't think Alisae being a sheep is alignment indicative.

It is one factor. When I add all the things I've noticed together and the interactions I had, I'm as certain as I could that he is scum. I mentioned his sheeping because that makes it a little harder to discern if it was a wagon he was interested in mislynching or just random sheepping. If the one he was sheeping was a scum partner or some random player. And that's why I doesn't rule out he could be white or black mafia. I'm just sure he is mafia.

[Fro99er]

Alisae sheeped, Gerry sheeped.

Sheeting itself isn't alignment indicative. It's the motivation for finding scum and Alisae was certainly motivated.

I disagree with transcend. Gerry's sheeps onto Clumsy, Yoshi, and Jaack weren't based on motivation to find scum

[Fro99er]

is clumsy one of your bottom 4

VOTE: Clumsy

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That interaction was gross

[Fro99er]

VOTE: BYF

You arent high on my town list so you can get roped at this point since no one wants to lynch any of my scumreads it feels like

That was a gross sheep

[Fro99er]

Pine or Jack good lynches at this point.

VOTE: Jaaack

That was a gross sheep

[kuror0]

Sheeping itself isn't alignment indicative. It's the motivation for finding scum and Alisae was certainly motivated.

How so? We strongly disagree here so enlighten me. Maybe I miss something.

[Fro99er]

Gerry's only pushes from after Clumsy wagon was on dreal and it was simply a shitty meta case that I proved wrong.

[Transcend]

Sigh

I don't wanna dig through his iso right now since i should be asleep but i remember him having more substantial reasons than the ones you pointed out.

[Fro99er]

How so? We strongly disagree here so enlighten me. Maybe I miss something.

Sleeping itself isn't alignment indicative. I'm not sure how I can tell you otherwise.

As far as scumhunting, Alisae actually suspected Yoshi first. That wasn't a sheep. I was just the one who built the case. Alisae also had town motivation in tying myself and Jaack together, even though it was wrong. Alisae has put pressure on people and his reads have evolved throughout the game. Even on yourself, Alisae's reads have evolved (and the pressure he put on you is also scumhunting) I'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head.

[Fro99er]

Sigh

I don't wanna dig through his iso right now since i should be asleep but i remember him having more substantial reasons than the ones you pointed out.

Maybe early in the game before I replaced in, and since then you're confbiasing?

IDK. Everything I've seen was not his push and was just him sheeping.

[Fro99er]

Gerry's only pushes from after Clumsy wagon was on dreal and it was simply a shitty meta case that I proved wrong.

And on me but it was more of an OMGUS and thinking I was defending Dreal (when I was actually just saying Gerry's reasons sucked and it wasn't a defense of Dreal at all).

[Transcend]

Again even if that's so, sheeping isn't alignment indicative to me.

[Fro99er]

Again even if that's so, sheeping isn't alignment indicative to me.

I agree. The lack of solid-reasoning scumhunting is though.

[inspectorscout]

Sleeping itself isn't alignment indicative.

Thank god it isn't! I thought I was scumclaiming when I slept to 11 am!

[Fro99er]

[Transcend]

Yeah if you're pathetic like me you stay up till 11 am. Sigh.

[Fro99er]

And if you're an old fogey like me you wake up at 5am

I hate oldness. Where's my prune juice?

[kuror0]

How so? We strongly disagree here so enlighten me. Maybe I miss something.

Sleeping itself isn't alignment indicative. I'm not sure how I can tell you otherwise.

As far as scumhunting, Alisae actually suspected Yoshi first. That wasn't a sheep. I was just the one who built the case. Alisae also had town motivation in tying myself and Jaack together, even though it was wrong. Alisae has put pressure on people and his reads have evolved throughout the game. Even on yourself, Alisae's reads have evolved (and the pressure he put on you is also scumhunting) I'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head.

Again beating the deadhorse about "skeeting isn't alignment indicative" as if I were scumreading her just for being a sheep.

As far as scumhunting. I call those reasons BS. Yeah because scums never scumhunt or look like they are doing it. Scums never change their reads either. pressure a target until it derails(and you call it scumhunt) or it becomes a mislynch. "town motivation in tying myself and jaack together", how the fuck would I or even better how could YOU know if it has town motivations or not?

Associations can come from town but also can come from scums trying to line up lynchs or derail attention or w/e. Scums as town modify their reads whether progression or to suit their needs it does happen on both alignments. Towns do mislynches same as scum. So the bottom line is the way I see the game an action by itself doesn't tell the alignment but if you put enough pieces together you should be able to determine if all the actions someone made were looking for the benefit of town or just pretended to be for the benefit of it and that's why I scum read Alissae everything I have read from him since early game looks like a big charade to look like he is helping actively to solve the game when in reality it is just making noise and trying to look good.

Lunch time so bbl.

[Fro99er]

Lunch time so bbl.

#EastCoastBias

[JaeReed]

Well Pine, that's why my real father is JaeReed.
and Hi Trans.
Considering voting Pep.

As the dawn breaks over the small, bleary eyed crowd gathering to assess their losses, a booming voice rings through the courtyard.

"What mortal dares summon me?"