Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Infinity 324]

I don't see a reason for town!mastin to go on and on about who she would've killed as scum

[mastina]

I don't claim to know more mafia theory than you do, but I'd be surprised if there was any relatively active scumteam who would let 2 of their scumpartners get wagoned and stay that way without getting jittery.

Laughing so hard now because I can one-up you.

You ask me for two?

I'll give you three.
Guess who the scumteam of that game was?
(Hint: they were all being voted.)

It happens. It's a thing.
It's less common than the inverse: two dueling town wagons. (That happens all the time.)
But it happens often enough, especially with the inverse, that yes. Fuck "but that was a counterwagon!" logic.
Use "how the wagon formed" logic.

The wagons on SirCakez and Pine formed similarly.
The wagon on TheThinker formed differently from SirCakez and Pine.
The wagon on Klingoncelt for that matter is pretty similar to TheThinker's wagon.

It's not that hard.

[Infinity 324]

Usually when I catch scum succesfully, I'm able to continue to find more and more reasons why they're scum. Not in a confirmation bias way where I'm forcing it, just in a natural way. That's what's happening with mastin right now.

[mastina]

Are we still "almost in RVS", mastin? Cause your play hasn't changed much from yesterday

What game are

you

reading?

Sure the fuck isn't this one because I'm going absolutely

ballistic

to try and get you to lynch Pine-a-Tonics.

There are some things I am avoiding--quite deliberately in some cases. I have reasons for that, not all of which I can elaborate on.

But what are you asking for?

I'm telling you exactly why Pine is scum.
I'm telling you why Gin's head is still scum.
I'm laying out their actions.

I'm pointing out why SirCakez is scum.
Molla hasn't even posted much of anything so there's nothing to point out as scum aside from that he hasn't posted much of anything.
And Aeronaut was prodded meaning he hasn't actually posted much of anything. They're not posting, so obviously I can't point out why they're scum if they're not showing it, now can I?

But for Pine, who IS posting?

I

have

been.

What do you want that I haven't given? I've given you the VCA. NKA. I've given you the mindset. The motive. The interactions, the tone, the content of the posts. They're scum. I guarantee you.

[mastina]

I don't see a reason for town!mastin to go on and on about who she would've killed as scum

Because the way I kill is similar to the way Pine kills. I'm describing my process, and then going into how Pine's process differs from mine, and how his kill pattern--while similar to mine--isn't identical, and why this is HIS kill pattern, not mine.

I'm doing it to lynch Pine.

[mastina]

Usually when I catch scum succesfully, I'm able to continue to find more and more reasons why they're scum. Not in a confirmation bias way where I'm forcing it, just in a natural way. That's what's happening with mastin right now.

Pot, kettle, black.

What the fuck do you think my posting towards Pine is?

Flailing?

Fuck no.

They are scumposting.
I am finding more and more evidence for why they are scum.
And I keep on pointing it out, yet you're seemingly blind to it.

[Infinity 324]

I'll give you three.
Guess who the scumteam of that game was?
(Hint: they were all being voted.)

Fair enough, but it's a lot more difficult to form a counterwagon if you have NO town votes to help you out. It's harder for me to imagine that happening in this game with all the 1- and 2-person wagons.

I'll look at the formation stuff some other time.

Are we still "almost in RVS", mastin? Cause your play hasn't changed much from yesterday

What game are

you

reading?

Sure the fuck isn't this one because I'm going absolutely

ballistic

to try and get you to lynch Pine-a-Tonics.

There are some things I am avoiding--quite deliberately in some cases. I have reasons for that, not all of which I can elaborate on.

But what are you asking for?

I'm telling you exactly why Pine is scum.
I'm telling you why Gin's head is still scum.
I'm laying out their actions.

I'm pointing out why SirCakez is scum.
Molla hasn't even posted much of anything so there's nothing to point out as scum aside from that he hasn't posted much of anything.
And Aeronaut was prodded meaning he hasn't actually posted much of anything. They're not posting, so obviously I can't point out why they're scum if they're not showing it, now can I?

But for Pine, who IS posting?

I

have

been.

What do you want that I haven't given? I've given you the VCA. NKA. I've given you the mindset. The motive. The interactions, the tone, the content of the posts. They're scum. I guarantee you.

Ok first of all we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about you play, which from reading the flowchart is not at all your townplay and is at least somewhat like your scumplay. It's confident and controlled instead of unsure and waffly. On d1 you explained that by saying it was almost RVS, yet it still hasn't changed.

For the pine thing, I really am not convinced and I'd have to ISO you again but iirc you didn't even continue the discussion about gin's first post so what's that about?

[Infinity 324]

Mastin, you really haven't given that much wrt pine. Essentially your reasoning throughout d1 was "because I said so" and now you're giving some wagon analysis that I don't totally agree with, them breaking into the crew, and NKA. That's it.

[Infinity 324]

Usually when I catch scum succesfully, I'm able to continue to find more and more reasons why they're scum. Not in a confirmation bias way where I'm forcing it, just in a natural way. That's what's happening with mastin right now.

This is my way of saying "sheep me" btw

[Drunken Piper]

well since action on this wagon I cant get,
clearly I need to step up the threat.

PINE IS SCUM, this I KNOW.
scum probably knows why by now, but why is the town so slow.

[Drunken Piper]

Also, when he flips scum, I think I deserve,
a seat on the crew, before death I am served.

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: pine

...I was wrong

[Drunken Piper]

Also, as scum knows what happened last night.
Bring all the events from the crew into the light.

were powers assigned, or was it just chatty time?
Hey waiter, this bourbon needs a lime!

[Infinity 324]

Ok so there were 3 different 1-shot powers to choose from and the rogue leader could give one of them to anyone in the game. Heartless decided to keep it secret in case there was scum in the crew.

[Drunken Piper]

Heartless decided to keep it secret in case there was scum in the crew.

[Infinity 324]

Maybe this is dumb but I'm trying to think about the chances mastin was bussing pine. Inevitably there are going to be some people who sheep mastin but the thing is she didn't exactly give super convincing reasons.

[Infinity 324]

In any case, I owe you an apology mastin

[SirCakez]

I will be here this afternoon!

[Infinity 324]

@piper who do you think is scum with pine?

I think it's time for some more serious VCA

[Drunken Piper]

(hic, in sloppy scrawl on a beer soaked bar napkin is written

"

SCUM---

Pine
Kling
AJ, Nero, LUV

NULL---

Desp, Cakez, BBmolla
Infinity, Aero, TheWayItEnds
Mastina, Titus
Heartless

TOWN---

" )

[Infinity 324]

Why nero?

[Drunken Piper]

(belch, DP scratches something out and makes a correction(s)...rechecks...then nods with approval

"

SCUM--

-Pine
Kling
AJ, Nero, LUV, BBmolla

NULL-

--Desp, Cakez,
Infinity, Aero,
TheWayItEnds
Mastina, Titus, Heartless

TOWN--

-" )

[Drunken Piper]

Why nero?

You can just call me an old mutt.
And toss it up, to my old experienced gut.

But lets be clear,
it is only a slight vibe we have here.

[Drunken Piper]

Why nero?

why ask about my read on Nero and not A to the J?
my leanings toward him you are not interested in this day?

[Titus]

well since action on this wagon I cant get,
clearly I need to step up the threat.

PINE IS SCUM, this I KNOW.
scum probably knows why by now, but why is the town so slow.

Smack me over the head then.