Mini Normal 1874: Camping Trip Mafia (Game Over)

[Leonshade]

VOTE COUNT 1.06

Sickofit1138 (3): I Am Innocent, TwoFace, Soulmil07
mattblackguy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, Sickofit1138
Fykus (2): lucca261, shannon
lucca261 (1): Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace (1): SensFan
shannon (1): massive
Nadpool (1): Fykus

Not Voting (2): mattblackguy, Nadpool

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-02-09 16:49:02)

Marshmallow fun fact: Marshmallows made their way to French candy stores in the early-to-mid 1800's. However, the process to make the candy took too long, and the stores couldn't keep up with the demand.

[Sickofit1138]

Town:
fykus
matt

scum:
???

UNVOTE:

!!!!!

[Nadpool]

Sickofit1138 (3): I Am Innocent, TwoFace, Soulmil07
mattblackguy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, Sickofit1138
lucca261 (1): Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace (1): SensFan
shannon (1): massive

Fykus (1): lucca261

Nadpool (1): Fykus

Fykus (1): shannon

@Mod

???

Fixed, thanks for the heads-up - Leon

[I Am Innocent]

Why would you vote a pr claim so early out the gate? I find that highly suspicious

More importantly.

Why would you fake claim mason?

If it's not a fake claim, why the fuck would you actually claim mason and out your partner?

I can't speak for innocent but i certainly didn't believe your claim so for me, him voting you wasn't even mildly suspicious let alone highly suspicious

don't know, don't care.

you lied and refused to answer my questions, that is a scum claim so hang and go away quickly

You're really calling someone scum for an obvious RSPS post? Seems to me that you're grasping at straws and trying to get an easy lynch early on day 1. This is only my second game here but this just screams scum to me.

Yet no vote change. Why not, esp when something "just screams scum" to you?

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: Shannon

Why are you scum reading Shannon?

Shun the voter, shun, shuuuuuuuuuun.

(Seriously though: I hate fake claimers, especially mason fake claimers, no matter how silly or obv fake the claim is. My vote stays until we get something else from someone else).

Is mason fake claiming scummy?

[I Am Innocent]

[quote="In post 66,
You're really calling someone scum for an obvious RSPS post? Seems to me that you're grasping at straws and trying to get an easy lynch early on day 1. This is only my second game here but this just screams scum to me.

Why did it take you an entire page before you voted TwoFace?[/quote]

+ points for noticing the same thing.

Up to this point wagons on massive and two face are/were both crap. I'll continue catching up.

[I Am Innocent]

Gut read and meta read.

I can't argue with the second reason. Which posts are giving you that gut read?

Why can't you argue with the second reason?

[I Am Innocent]

Loopdan was a town lean to me. He was third on the read list. He still is, though.

What's your read on him?

I'm waiting to interact more with Fykus before I change my vote from him. Individually, I don't think the votes on me are bad. I'm starting to read you as town, I'm pretty sure that Shannon doesn't suspect me and Loopdan is playing

weirdly

. Maybe lil, but not sure. I would go after Fykus depending on the answers, Sicko is a solid wagon too, after seeing his weird posts, and I want to look at Shannon next moves closely too.

What do you think we should focus?

You have hit almost all of my concerns on the head with this one post. Add Soulmil and you have all 6!

[I Am Innocent]

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@fykus, 138: I'll throw a question for you. What do you think of Matt saying that I'm pushing you both because you are the "weakest" players in the game.

I guess its plausible but probably unlikely. I'll withhold my judgement for now since you haven't posted much yet.

For now though, I'm going to put my vote on Nadpool since he has offered nothing but seemingly random votes so far this game.

VOTE: Nadpool

So offering nothing >>> screaming scum?

[I Am Innocent]

You're cherry picking.

And are you an alt?

How am I cherry picking? You are taking a statement I said that was NAI, and saying it's a scumtell, and saying "Haven't seen anyone make a post like that and flip town" so I proved you guys wrong. Not cherry picking at all.

And no I'm not an alt.

And by your logic IF (and im not) cherrypicking then both of you are cherrypicking too. Kyouko showed only 2 examples, and you showed none. So what point were you trying to make exactly?

Whoops I actually made a mistake.

I thought 157 was from you...

What I was trying to say was that you were just picking 4 games that supported your point....

My bad.


And ftr... I don't think it's necessarily a tell for either side since it is WIFOM

Why didn't you state that originally then?

Matt probably isn't scum. There is no reason for scum!Matt to post 154 considering the game state.

Why not? In my experience, posts like 154 are scumtells. Specifically "Guys, why is this game so slow?"

Saw rb do it in JaeReed's mini normal 1857 and he flipped scum.
Saw Eric Rasputin do it in Open 660 and his replacement later flipped scum.

Haven't seen anyone make a post like that and flip town

+1. Even I've done this as scum but can't think of a time doing it as TOWN.

[TwoFace]

Good on you iAI. You are making points that make sense. I'll add fykus to my list of possible scum.

[I Am Innocent]

Town reads: me (of course), Twoface, Matt, Massive, Lucca
Lean Town: Kyouko, sensan
Null: Sick, Lil
Lean scum: Shannon
Scummy: Fykus, Nadpool, Soulmil

unvote Sick
vote Fykus

Would love to see these horrendous wagons go away (Matt, lucca, TwoFace)

Soulmil is on alert. 48 hours, give me something or I push a wagon on you hard.

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE COUNT 1.06

Sickofit1138 (3): I Am Innocent, TwoFace, Soulmil07
mattblackguy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, Sickofit1138
Fykus (2): lucca261, shannon
lucca261 (1): Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace (1): SensFan
shannon (1): massive
Nadpool (1): Fykus

Not Voting (2): mattblackguy, Nadpool

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-02-09 16:49:02)

Marshmallow fun fact: Marshmallows made their way to French candy stores in the early-to-mid 1800's. However, the process to make the candy took too long, and the stores couldn't keep up with the demand.

Is there a reason soulmil and sensfan weren't prodded at this time?

[shannon]

VOTE: Shannon

Why are you scum reading Shannon?

Shun the voter, shun, shuuuuuuuuuun.

(Seriously though: I hate fake claimers, especially mason fake claimers, no matter how silly or obv fake the claim is. My vote stays until we get something else from someone else).

Is mason fake claiming scummy?

YES

[Leonshade]

VOTE COUNT 1.06

Sickofit1138 (3): I Am Innocent, TwoFace, Soulmil07
mattblackguy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, Sickofit1138
Fykus (2): lucca261, shannon
lucca261 (1): Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace (1): SensFan
shannon (1): massive
Nadpool (1): Fykus

Not Voting (2): mattblackguy, Nadpool

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-02-09 16:49:02)

Marshmallow fun fact: Marshmallows made their way to French candy stores in the early-to-mid 1800's. However, the process to make the candy took too long, and the stores couldn't keep up with the demand.

Is there a reason soulmil and sensfan weren't prodded at this time?

I'm only counting Saturday and Sunday as one day for the sake of prods, so both still have a few hours to go before being prodded.

[shannon]

Sorry to be brief, I'm busy elsewhere. Will be able to pay more attention here soon x

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: Shannon

Why are you scum reading Shannon?

Shun the voter, shun, shuuuuuuuuuun.

(Seriously though: I hate fake claimers, especially mason fake claimers, no matter how silly or obv fake the claim is. My vote stays until we get something else from someone else).

Is mason fake claiming scummy?

YES

Can you provide some examples where you've seen scum do that?

[TwoFace]

@iai - why do you need examples?

[I Am Innocent]

Cause I think she's full of crap

[TwoFace]

Why would she lie about something so meaningless? Scum have the mirror their town play so most scum are going to say/do things they would as town.

But sure. Let's see her provide examples

[lucca261]

let's go guys. here and reading.

[lucca261]

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@fykus, 205: it's okay. not mad about you misreading my question. since others have commented at this post, I'll throw my two cents: don't see anything alignment indicative, but I can't blame people who sees a bit of LAMISN.

@sicko, 211: do you really believe that you just asked matt?

@sicko, 213: how do you seem to know how many scum there is?

@lil, 216: what didn't you like about my catchup? also, I wasn't the only one voting Fykus. shouldn't you be scumreading them too?

@loopdan, 223: is this game bastard or something?

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innocent's catchup:

I'm fine with the catchup for now, and he seems how to hunting scum. there are some bad posts, especially combining 233 with his current scumread on Loopdan. I don't think it's consistent. but I want to look elsewhere now.

@twoface, 245: town post. confortable putting TwoFace on a leaning town category. his posts are looking townier these days. I think that post is scummy, though. A good way of feigning activity.

VOTE: Shannon

let's go with that for now.

[Fykus]

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@fykus, 138: I'll throw a question for you. What do you think of Matt saying that I'm pushing you both because you are the "weakest" players in the game.

I guess its plausible but probably unlikely. I'll withhold my judgement for now since you haven't posted much yet.

For now though, I'm going to put my vote on Nadpool since he has offered nothing but seemingly random votes so far this game.

VOTE: Nadpool

So offering nothing >>> screaming scum?

Offering something as to why you're voting for someone is alot better than just voting and saying nothing else at all for 10 pages wouldnt you agree? I assume you do agree in some sense because Nadpool is one of your scum reads. As to pointing out that I waited for a page before putting my vote onto twoface after i grilled him, I'm pretty sure that I offered an explanation already. For now though, I believe where my vote is currently is fine where it is until something else/someone else acting scummy pops up.

[Fykus]

Page 9

@fykus, 205: it's okay. not mad about you misreading my question. since others have commented at this post, I'll throw my two cents: don't see anything alignment indicative, but I can't blame people who sees a bit of LAMISN.

Sorry for the newbie question but what does LAMISN mean?

[mattblackguy]

Fykus, what's your current read on TwoFace?