Open 671: Greater Idea - OVER

[Spade_Ace]

Spade, as far as I'm concerned us lynching mafia yesterday bought you breathing room.

If we continue to lynch mafia, I'm fine with letting you live... but if we get one mislynch, we need to seriously consider lynching you due to the simple fact we can't actually verify your claim.

I understand that. Initially i thought this was something like a mason and that it could be easily verified. That was the reason for the 'Dare'. Then later realized, it wasn't.

Anyway, lynching mafia hasn't given us a breathing room btw. The mod said there was at least 50% town. I think we should assume the initial town number was just 6. So now it after the kills, it is 4.

[Aristodog]

VC 2.1

Davesaz

(2): Spade_Ace 553, Vaxkiller 567

Spade_Ace

(2): BangTheMafia 559, Alban 626

BangTheMafia

(1): Gamma Emerald 594

Not Voting

(4): Kop, Not_Mafia, -Grey- 668, Davesaz 669

With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The day will end on February 14th, 2017 at 3 AM EST. (V-Day ♥)
(expired on 2017-02-14 02:00:00)

[Aristodog]

Prodding Kop. This is his second prod. He has 24 hours to respond.

[Spade_Ace]

Also grey, did you notice anyone's play being different from yesterday. Something that indicates a change in alignment?

[-Grey-]

It's obviously a frame given his parting words. Though it should be so transparently a frame that nobody should buy it.
But at a much higher level than this, think a little bit about what I've said all game and realize that town is much better off if you

take me permanently off the table.

I can see this being said by a PR that got culted.

Also note:

I agree with the observations on Spade_Ace. I saw 485/487 last night when trying to switch to offense mode but ran out of gas.

He had motive to visit Spade last night.

[Spade_Ace]

If he got culted, then he wouldn't say 598 cos he has a new wincon now. To win as a cult.

I think by last night, he meant in real life.

[Spade_Ace]

Also a culted person wouldn't want me lynched. They would want more people to target me at night.

[-Grey-]

Okay, 681 is a fair point.

[-Grey-]

Also grey, did you notice anyone's play being different from yesterday. Something that indicates a change in alignment?

If you did, just out it.

[davesaz]

I agree, best play for someone with that role (other than revealing up front but what's done is done).

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh black goo might be one of those roles you claim in your first post

[davesaz]

Btw unrelated, i did make a poor targeting choice. Antitown to say more at this time.

[-Grey-]

Anyway, lynching mafia hasn't given us a breathing room btw. The mod said there was at least 50% town. I think we should assume the initial town number was just 6. So now it after the kills, it is 4.

Ugh. You're right.

I think it's time for me to claim.

I am a Saulus. That is why I played d1 the way I did... I was trying to get lynched without coming across as a Jester.

I prefer town roles whenever I have the choice. So when I was given the choice of scum mason or scum that converts to town, I chose the latter.

And no, I wasn't directly playing against my wincon when I led the charge on Charloux. I have no idea who the rest of the Mafia is. I'm effectively a mafia traitor that converts to VT after being lynched.

[davesaz]

Hmm, do you reveal this now because you think it's in our best interest to lynch you immediately to get the numbers advantage?

[-Grey-]

Hmm, do you reveal this now because you think it's in our best interest to lynch you immediately to get the numbers advantage?

Yes, I think we need to keep town in the majority.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm
In offsite games it's common for Judas to claim Saulus, but given the circumstances and site meta being different I trust Grey.

[bangthemafia]

Wow amazing. 2 claims.

Spade, I trust your claim but agree with Grey that if it comes to it, town should lynch you sometime on future simply bcoz you were scummy, and your claim cant be verified.

Also we need to be careful now. Coz if anyone wants to be a cult, they would target u. These would be players who wanted to be scum but got both town roles. So those with town discards.

You are right that there are atleast 4 townies in 9 of us. With you 2 claiming, and since i know i m town, that means at least 2 in rest 6.

Grey, thanks for a valuable claim. You could hav not claimed and played as mafia. But its great you prefer VT over being a mafia wincon player.

I think we should lynch Grey now. We could also lynvh domeone else and keep Grey as a reserve lynch for day 3 or 4. But with 4/9 townies, the worst case scenario if we mislynch someone else and a townie is night killed, is 2/7. That could be bad

@Mod, if a Judas or Saulus is lynched, will you reveal their role or ypu just tell that day ends but xyz is not lynched.

If mod reveals the original role and hence the new role too, I am all for lynching Grey

By the way,

Unvote: Spade

[-Grey-]

Unvotes have to be bolded or tagged.

I won't flip, the lynch will simply fail.

[-Grey-]

I think it's better to lynch me today because that will put a target on my forehead for scum and it may save a PR from being NK'ed tonight.

[bangthemafia]

Waiting for mod clarification. Dont want to lynch a jester and not even know abt it

[Gamma Emerald]

If you lynch a jester it will flip

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Grey

[-Grey-]

[quote="In post 691, bangthemafia"

]@Mod, if a Judas or Saulus is lynched, will you reveal their role or ypu just tell that day ends but xyz is not lynched.

[/quote]
Mod communications have to be bolded.

Just like votes.

[-Grey-]

@Mod, if a Judas or Saulus is lynched, will you reveal their role or ypu just tell that day ends but xyz is not lynched.

Mod communications have to be bolded.

Just like votes.

[-Grey-]

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