Mini 113:Peril in Per-Djehuty (Game Over)

MeMe · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:18 pm

And I'm sorry for tripling (playing BSW at the same time) - but I just checked my notes on the game & based on them and the new information...

vote: Uraj45

Narninian · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:10 pm

I would guess naive - seeing as your a newbie cop - but we'll see if you get any guilty results....

MeMe · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:17 pm

BeyondTheGame wrote:You are seperated from your three brothers each night submit a name and you will find out if thats your brother. Then from then on each night you may communicate.

Hold up. Separated from your THREE brothers? There are four of you?

Narninian · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:57 pm

I certainly hope that's a typo - that would be EXTREMELY suspcious in a 12 player game, considering some of the pro-town roles that have already been claimed.

BeyondTheGame · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:31 pm

Sorry for the typo, There are three of us... including myself..

Uraj45 · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:32 pm

I don't understand, doesen't it already

say

three?
And MeMe would you care to elaborate?

MeMe · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:50 pm

Doesn't

what

already say three?

And as for elaboration:

These people aren't at the top of my list...though I acknowledge there could be scum here:

Argoti

- claimed doc

BeyondTheGame

- claimed mason

BlueSin

- voted Maverick yesterday

mlaker

- claimed mason

I've got a good idea that one of these people is the other mason; and one of them could be guilty, but they're less likely than you, in my opinion...

big_kahunia

gashlycrumb

Narninian

As for you...

Uraj45

- Yesterday you raised suspicion by trying to get more information from Argoti; and you didn't vote or comment on Maverick's wagon (or anything since June 23); and you've been lurking this day up until you received a vote. So, that's why you've got my vote currently.

big_kahunia · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:27 am

I agree with many: four masons seems crazy in a mini. I hope it's not a cult. The Brotherhood would be a good name for one. It all depends on mlaker's win condition.

(just throwing out ideas)

mlaker · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:57 am

MeMe wrote: As for you...

Uraj45
- Yesterday you raised suspicion by trying to get more information from Argoti; and you didn't vote or comment on Maverick's wagon (or anything since June 23); and you've been lurking this day up until you received a vote. So, that's why you've got my vote currently.

I agree with some of MeMe's reasoning but the other part of her reasoning is things that she's been doing the whole game! Lurking, trying to get more info. And big_Kahunia I assure there are only three masons.

mlaker · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:57 am

MeMe wrote: As for you...

Uraj45
- Yesterday you raised suspicion by trying to get more information from Argoti; and you didn't vote or comment on Maverick's wagon (or anything since June 23); and you've been lurking this day up until you received a vote. So, that's why you've got my vote currently.

I agree with some of MeMe's reasoning but the other part of her reasoning is things that she's been doing the whole game! Lurking, trying to get more info. And big_Kahunia I assure there are only three masons.

big_kahunia · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:05 pm

[quote="BeyondTheGame"]Sorry for the typo, There are three of us... including myself..[/quote]

Missed the above, sorry about that.

Narninian · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:15 pm

dont see a recent vote count - but I beleive its only vote 2.

VOTE: Uraj

meme's logic seems like a good lead.

MeMe · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:55 pm

mlaker wrote:I agree with some of MeMe's reasoning but the other part of her reasoning is things that she's been doing the whole game! Lurking, trying to get more info. And big_Kahunia I assure there are only three masons.

mlaker - I haven't lurked. I

intended

to lurk, I

announced

my coming lurk, but I ended up being quiet for just 3 days (you, Narninian, and gashly were beating me in the lurking department at that time as I pointed out then).

As for trying to get more info -- yes. That's the way the game is played. Without information, the town remains ignorant. But the cases are different. Uraj wanted more from Argoti after the doc claim. I wanted more from both you and Argoti

before

your claims. Earlier today, as yesterday, I was still quite suspicious of you. That you seemed to change your story and no one was confirming you made more information necessary. Now we've got it and we can move on to someone more likely to be guilty.

Uraj45 · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:45 am

I still fail to see why this was a bad thing. I'm quite surprised that Argoti is still alive today and I don't see how additional information aside from the larger information of claiming doc could harm the town more than helping.

MeMe · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:07 am

It resulted in this, Uraj:

Argoti wrote:I was told I was the towns doctor, no self protection

That's what was wrong with it. But, having had this recalled to my attention...I, too, am surprised that Fuldu was double-targeted. Seems that at least one of the killers would have tried to take out a doctor with no self-protect ability.

FOS: Argoti

Argoti · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:37 pm

You think

I'M

not suprised that I'm alive? And I already said who my target was, MeMe.

I can't help it if the scum in this game are too stupid to attack a doctor.

I want to ask, does anyone else think that the "Masons" are just mafia? That's been my vibe since I read there were 3 of them.

MeMe · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:22 pm

Argoti wrote:I want to ask, does anyone else think that the "Masons" are just mafia? That's been my vibe since I read there were 3 of them.

Sure. Yesterday I was 95% convinced of mlaker's guilt...and then when no one was confirming him today, the suspicion only grew. But now that BTG has come out, it's rather doubtful, in my opinion. Now that we know there are two killing groups, it'd be too much of a risk to confirm a mafia member because all the other killer has to do is target one of them tonight...we'd see a dead scum "mason" in the morning, and we'd know exactly who to lynch tomorrow.

It's not out of the question, but the confirmation makes it less likely.

gashlycrumb · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:29 pm

The mason group doesn't really work well, because you can't support your fellow innocents without identifying yourself as a defenceless innocent, and then you're a sitting duck.
BTG found me the first night, and then I found mlaker last night.
There are definitely only three of us, and we don't recruit. It's not a 'Brotherhood' of the fraternal organisation sort, we're the three missing sons of the frantic woman on page 1 of this thread.
And now the mafia knows who we are, and the mafia also knows by elimination who the other pro-towns are.
Exeunt.

Narninian · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:46 pm

maybe the killing groups thought another killing group would take out argoti- or they sought to frame him...

it does, however, seems suspcious that argoti is still alive.

MeMe · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:24 pm

Well, gashly, I assumed you were the third...but I don't understand why you felt the need to

confirm

it at this stage.

Regardless, that

seals

their innocence. No way would three mafia expose themselves just to be lynched one after the other if one dies overnight...and there shouldn't be three mafia left anyway (Maverick died already and four mafia plus another killer would be insanity).

Uraj45 · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:34 pm

One thing I would like to note, why have we assumed that there are two killing groups? We've only had one kill each night and no solid evidence that there are two.

BeyondTheGame · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:46 pm

Well I think the evidence is Fuldus death scene been Shot and Knife - clearly shows that he was targetted by two killing groups.

Thoth · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:39 am

vote count:

Uraj45 2 (Narninian, MeMe)
MeMe 1 (mlaker)
mlaker 1 (BlueSin)
Narninian 1 (gashlycrumb)

Not voting: big_kahunia, BeyondTheGame, Argoti, Uraj45

5 to lynch

Narninian · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:16 am

Argoti - Claimed as doc
BeyondTheGame - mason
gashlycrumb - Mason (probably)
MeMe - Newbie Cop
mlaker - Mason
Narninian - Unclaimed but willing to claim (would prefer not to)
Dragon Phoenix (vigilante) shot Night 1
Maverick (Mafia) lynched Day 1
Fuldu ( retired cop) shot and gutted Night 2

Uraj45
big_kahunia
BlueSin

If we assume there are 3 mafia and 1 other killing party then we can lynch any of the rest and they'll be scum. If there are only 2 mafia and 1 other killing party then 2 out of those 3 must be scum. (this is from my point of view - you guys dont now Im innocent so its out of 4). That is if the 'doc' isnt lying. I doubt we are w/o a doc. Nobody has made a huge case agaisnt argoti. Im happy with my Uraj vote - but Ill switch to BK ot Bluesin if somebody makes a case

MeMe · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:54 am

Regarding BlueSin: he'd have to be a lone killer, in my opinion, since he was one of the three who helped to lynch a mafia member yesterday. I'm unwilling to vote him at this point since he's cleared of being one type of scum.