Mini Normal 1873: Mafia PT

[Lexa]

Strongman kill at BugBearTits

[mastina]

In fact, I had not counted it. (Albeit, because I had forgotten about it as I wasn't sure day had ended when I read it.) However,

Strongman kill at BugBearTits

Received.
Lexa is set to strongman kill BlueBloodedToffee.

[mhsmith0]

Lexa is set to strongman kill BlueBloodedToffee.

Unfortunately BugBearTits is not a player in this game, therefore the strongman kill is automatically redirected at Lexa

[PranaDevil]

We need to pay attention to future lynches... I was doing vote digging stuff, and on Alisae's wagon the people on it are us, and all three confirmed town via Gin... I've got a post ready and written arguing it away as scum being able to avoid being on such an obvious mislynch, but missing something like that could easily bite us in the ass.

I'm going to be pushing Garmr tomorrow, so we should try and be careful how we vote together, unless shannon or Pep get involved on the wagon, I strongly advise keeping off it is you are able.

Then the next day, if we've lost Garmr through lynching, we take out Gin or TB overnight, and it's shannon or Pep for the winning lynch all being well. Plus with day talk if one of them votes Pep or shannon, we can arrange to both be on at the same time, and hammer double quick.

[Lexa]

Yeah I wasn't concerned about that at all for this one given how terribly Alisae played, she was driving her own bus and scum knowing she's town can easily avoid the bus

[mastina]

Scum Night Actions

Lexa

You used your

Strongman kill

last night on

BlueBloodedToffee

.
You still have your

Roleblocker

shot.
Day Four begins now.

PranaDevil

You choose to do nothing.
Day Four begins now.

Link to daystart for convenience.

[PranaDevil]

Well fuck, try and bullshit your way out of that one, you might get away with claiming roleblocker (as that's all you have left anyway, and I don't think town have other PRs) and that you didn't want to out yourself from a bullshit and blatant fake claim from Alisae. However if the worst comes I may be able to buy town points from it through my vote analysis stuff. So we may still have this thanks to that.

[PranaDevil]

Think we may be up shit creek without a paddle in some areas, I don't think there's much wiggle room outside of me having to bus you, but all being well I can still swing it to lynching shannon and Garmr, especially as everyone's used their shots by now, meaning worst case scenario I still get to off the obv. town in Gin and TB, over the next two nights... all depends on if I can convince people to lynch Garmr and shannon after.

[Lexa]

I'm wondering if it makes sense to hammer immediately if the option presents itself, another town flip presumably leads to an auto lynch on me anyway

[Lexa]

Not a you hammer obviously, a me hammer if it hits L-1 on shannon for instance

[PranaDevil]

Nah, never self hammer. It's bad play on all sides.

[PranaDevil]

I'm more than comfortable with how things are going, we may even get a shannon flip today as well. It will lead to your lynch tomorrow regardless, but we can at least get rid of, say TB or Gin (I say Gin personally), to leave us with someone who believes I'm confirmed town... if we can somehow end it with myself, TB and Pep's replacement or Garmr, I believe TB will side with me, of course, the ideal situation is for me to step in tomorrow if we mislynch shannon today, and be all "okay, guys, we need to think things through here, we've hit town three days running, we need to re-evaluate our views, why are we all still alive? Do scum think we're immediately going to lynch Lexa today and it's game over for us as Lexa wasn't scum and they could see us imploding that way?"

The added bonus of me saying it means I can pull the same trick I've done almost all game. Use the fact I'm pointing out something that could cast me in a negative light, to buy me town credit as why would scum point out something that would lead to their lynch? (See: my statement about if karnos was a vengeful to shoot me, or the VCA stuff where I point out I'm an ideal target for lynching etc.)

[Lexa]

No I didn't mean a self-hammer, I meant if shannon gets to L-1 I'm thinking I should jump immediately even if it outs me as scum

[Lexa]

And yeah, you've been running through this game well. It's gone down pretty much as I predicted it would tbh, given this is only my second scum game not counting a sub this is about the point I figured my inexperience would catch up to me and get me lynched

[PranaDevil]

Nah, don't insta-hammer any chance we have to pull this back will be worth it, however if questioning seems like it might go in a negative direction for you, then by all means quick hammer shannon if the opportunity is there. I'd rather lynch shannon today and deal with being forced to lynch you tomorrow, than lynch you today. However ideally we wont need to do either, plus each scum lynch takes us further away from being able to win, and while I think I'm comfortable town in so far as people's reads, the quicker we can win the better as it reduces the amount of lying needed.

[Lexa]

tfw scum claiming gets you town read

[mastina]

You'd be surprised.

[Lexa]

Prana you may want to claim a watcher/tracker JOAT ahead of my lynch to match the ninja kill and discredit shannon

Depending on the risk of garmr/titus being one

[Lexa]

Scratch that, Titus is hinting she's the last JOAT

Is four town JOATs vs one scum JOAT really a thing?

[Lexa]

By the by I'm thinking we NK thinkbig and garmr leaving Titus and gin for the end game if I'm the one who lives. Garmr is too on the nose and gin surviving lends credence to a scum!gin fakeclaim case, especially if other JOATs flip

[PranaDevil]

Three JOAT is already bad balance in my view to be honest. Not sure about Gin left at the end, with TBs flip, and my previous stuff I've made it clear I feel he's conf. Town, be hard to go back when I've done multiple posts showing he can't be scum. I feel we need to kill Titus and Gin, as TB believes I'm town.

[Lexa]

I'm find with that depending on who gets lynched. If you ended up as the lynch I think my plan works but if I or another is the lynch your plan works as garmr also town reads you iirc

[PranaDevil]

Yeah, posted that before reading the thread. Think whichever of us survives, the other gains town points from a seperate group.

Also, thoughts on me just being a belligerent ass and refusing to claim? I'm considering just saying I have no intention of claiming, and would rather they lynch me. Maybe play up to being an actual vengeful for if I get to LyLo? I see no reason to claim just because I'm told to.

[Lexa]

Gotta give props to Garmr he's pretty much the sole reason this game hasn't been an easy party of mislynches

[PranaDevil]

My hope now is to take someone with me today (Titus), gain obv. Town cred for your lynch, or make you obv. Town with my lynch.

Credit where it's due, Titus' VCA is good, though my statement in thread about the negative of failing to read the thread is true. Half a good game is still not good enough.