Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[Infinity 324]

No because you can't read me you don't know what actual reasons are. Infinity you have

no context

for judging whether I am town or scum. Your read on me is MEANINGLESS. Since your read on me is meaningless, your default should be to townread me because I am town 10/13 times. Defaulting to scumreading me is what a lot of people do and it's fucking obnoxious and I am not going to get mislynched here because you're too dumb to consider that you should maybe not chainsaw the fuck out of scum.

I think that you

should

feel like shit if you're town because you pushing on me is fucking terrible. What if everyone who couldn't read me called me scum every game?
Because that's a situation that we had and I got mislynched like 12 games in a row before I doubled down on venomously pushing back on everyone who did and making the game as unpleasant as possible for them. Now its your turn. And no, what you are doing is picking out bullshit and saying 'YEP THATS A SCUM RC thing'. None of it is scum RC things. Bye.

As I said before, if I saw reasons to townread you I'd townread you. My read on everyone will default to town, sure. But when FA doesn't try to solve the game and instead is LAMIST and calls every awkward post scummy, when you say things that look fake and exaggerated to me, and most of all when you are so incredibly worked up about one scumread on you and resort to AtE and discrediting and misrepping and OMGUS instead of trying to explain your side then yes I will scumread you.

I call one thing you do a "scum RC thing", and that point wasn't even my main argument. Stop misrepping and try to show me where I am wrong.

Unless you were lying about being a reasonable person in the hydra blitz, it's very hard for me to imagine that this stuff is genuine.

PEdit: thank you MoI

[lane0168]

You quoted 1. Was there more? I guess you could say that's just my style then. I'd say I generally find things that seem significant to me, but may not be to other people.

Yes, I'll ISO you and find more if you want me to.

But what's with this tone change from when I explained my SR on you before? Is it just that you thought my earlier reasons for SRing you were shit and this is more reasonable?

I will say that even though I was scum in poker mafia, you seemed obvtown to me there

That's exactly it. I'm self aware of this game compared to others. Generally I'm highest poster and if I'm not, there's not much going on. I got to this game "late" and quickly realized this is a whole new can if worms. From my first post I recognize I've never been in a game with so many very active players. It's just the nature of the game.

You don't have to find more. Not for me anyways. I believe you think that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think I am perfectly justified in reacting how I am to a bullshit push like yours.

[RadiantCowbells]

k boys.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Vig Gin, lynch Infinity tomorrow. This game isn't worth my time and I'm not putting a replace in to do my job for me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Eager you haven't been around long enough to know this but when I flip town with a scumread this strong, you follow it without hesitation. Do it.

[Ælla Was Spine]

@___@

[RadiantCowbells]

And seriously: lynch Infinity. I don't care if you townread him no one should get away with defending scum that hard or else scum will do it constantly.
I disagree with the people who townread him as well but I'm not going to get into that because lynching him just on policy should sell it to you guys.

[Infinity 324]

Same for reading players who are very logically based and post in large volume as Town for that reason as well.

Would you not categorize RC as a “Stream of Consciousness” type poster?

Well ok

I've played with scum!DGB and have caught scum!DGB before. She is a stream-of-consciousness-type poster, yes, but more of a trolly nonsense-y type than "here's a thought here's a thought here's a thought"

Just call it gut I guess

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're scum whatever. If you're town don't join another of my games please.

[Infinity 324]

k boys.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Vig Gin, lynch Infinity tomorrow. This game isn't worth my time and I'm not putting a replace in to do my job for me.

Don't fall for this shit. He's trying every trick in the book.

[Infinity 324]

If you're scum whatever. If you're town don't join another of my games please.

The feeling is mutual.

[Leonshade]

Nah.

Scum are the players who role over like a submissive little puppies in fear when someone claims Vig. Not wanting to risk getting shot.

Just like you did with your pre-emptive claim. I know RC didn’t get the memo from you on that and you had to say “NOT ON MY WATCH” when he voted Eager in typical RC OMGUS fashion. But you have been the dutiful little “helper bee”.

You wouldn't do that regardless of alignment and you know it, you're too confident in your play as scum to do that.

P-edit: What the hell is going on?

[eagerSnake]

Ok that's quite enough

Infinity and RC can you guys ignore each other for the rest of the day and we'll just see if you're both alive tomorrow or not

lets talk about your next scum reads

[RadiantCowbells]

No sorry Eager I am not letting Gin go.

[Infinity 324]

Ok. Lane still bothers me, though I can see him as town. Same goes for MoI. That's about it.

[RadiantCowbells]

MoI could be scum, Lane is very like town, Gin is today's lynch.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI could be scum, Lane is very like town, Gin is today's lynch.

So to summarize - RC's scum list is Gin / Infinity / Me.

The people voting him ...

Just wanted everyone to see that and let it sink in for a minute.

[Infinity 324]

I will say that I am more confident in my scumread on RC than when I started this discussion. Him accusing me of being unwilling to consider the fact that he's town is nonsense given what he's doing with gin, and the fact that he's using

every single manipulative tactic you can think of

including being a terrible person which I don't believe he is, are just very difficult for me to imagine from town.

[Infinity 324]

Gin is today's lynch.

Also this basically confirms that the selfvote wasn't meant to go through which is basically a scumclaim.

[Not_Mafia]

I will say that I am more confident in my scumread on RC than when I started this discussion. Him accusing me of being unwilling to consider the fact that he's town is nonsense given what he's doing with gin, and the fact that he's using

every single manipulative tactic you can think of

including being a terrible person which I don't believe he is, are just very difficult for me to imagine from town.

This isn't out of character for RC, not saying he's town but none of this makes him scum

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I am literally just reiterating my reads on the people that you listed.

[eagerSnake]

MoI could be scum.

Ok, can you expand on this?

[MagnaofIllusion]

@___@

How insightful …

Do you think RC is scum or Town?

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You wouldn't do that regardless of alignment and you know it, you're too confident in your play as scum to do that.

Nice generalization. The fact remains that scum (especially in a know alignment distribution set-up like this one) have more reason to placate a claimed Vig than Town. I might not go Surrender Cobra like FA did but I wouldn’t go out of my way to rock the boat on Eager’s power-trip.

Do you disagree?

[RadiantCowbells]

No. I am not distracting from Gin.

[Infinity 324]

I will say that I am more confident in my scumread on RC than when I started this discussion. Him accusing me of being unwilling to consider the fact that he's town is nonsense given what he's doing with gin, and the fact that he's using

every single manipulative tactic you can think of

including being a terrible person which I don't believe he is, are just very difficult for me to imagine from town.

This isn't out of character for RC, not saying he's town but none of this makes him scum

Does he accuse people of being unwilling to reconsider reads as town, while he simultaneously deathtunnels people? Does he misrep as town? Does he threaten to policy lynch people in other games when they misread him once as town? Does he do everything he possibly can to get a single vote off of him as town?

Not buying it.

No, I am literally just reiterating my reads on the people that you listed.

No RC. You said gin is today's lynch. When you supposedly had given up with your selfvote. You fucked up.