Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[mastina]

My thing has been that Pine's role outs him using anti-town action and it would put heat on him thus he makes sense as a bus/distance from.

And my thing has been that Pine's role is not something the scumteam would use unless it was necessary. Unless the rogue crew was all town. Something I could not have known at the time I came in.

You're moving goalposts.

[mastina]

so according to your theory, scum have vanillaizer, jk, AND the manipulative joat
or... what? do you think aj is completely making up the jk claim?
b/c mastin's theory partly relies on aj being town ya' know

(Hint: it's because SirCakez is scum.)

[mastina]

so according to your theory, scum have vanillaizer, jk, AND the manipulative joat
or... what? do you think aj is completely making up the jk claim?
b/c mastin's theory partly relies on aj being town ya' know

oh ugh I missed that part of the theory
Well then my new thesis is that only one of AJ and Molla are town, or both scum. Not both town.

Can't get a clearer example of...what's the word? Twisting? Of bending. Of backtracking? Not quite sure what the concept would be called, but this is a prime example of it:
Being shown wrong.
Then going, "Oh, well I'm still right because...", modifying it.

SirCakez is scum, who needs AJ as a mislynch candidate.

[Nero Cain]

And my thing has been that Pine's role is not something the scumteam would use unless it was necessary.

I agree but pushing Pine in advance so you could go "but I was pushing him before he used his ability, I'm so town for it" make perfect sense.

[mastina]

the. narrative. of. these. reads. make. no. sense.

(It's because he's scum.)

[mastina]

I'm VT. Character special ability is a 1-shot boost to target's character special ability. I also identify the base character special ability of my target.

I buy it.

I mean.
I don't think it's

town

.
In fact this reeks of being a scum ability.
But, I think it's truthful all the same.

It should not discourage people from lynching zefiend.

[mastina]

Mastin hit me with your pv read when you have a chance

Town.
PV is never this infuriatingly frustrating when he's scum.

He's got a clear difference in scumplay and townplay. Night and day, even. Even stronger than the difference in your play. LUV was nulltown, but PV is just town. This is his towngame. The actual tell I have for him isn't frustration (though that is a general trend; PV doesn't frustrate me when he's scum and does when he's town but I think that's just incidental), but I'm pretty damn sure this is his towngame. I'd prefer to only share with the class the reasons why if absolutely necessary. Since there's no wagon on PV, that would not be right now.

[SirCakez]

oh ok well i guess that makes perfect sen... HE HAD ONE VOTE ON HIM AT THE TIME AND THE WAGON WAS GOING AWAY ANYWAY

the. narrative. of. these. reads. make. no. sense.

And the claim timing makes any more sense as town?
It was shitty claim timing regardless of alignment, I'm not basing my read on that.

so according to your theory, scum have vanillaizer, jk, AND the manipulative joat
or... what? do you think aj is completely making up the jk claim?
b/c mastin's theory partly relies on aj being town ya' know

oh ugh I missed that part of the theory
Well then my new thesis is that only one of AJ and Molla are town, or both scum. Not both town.

Can't get a clearer example of...what's the word? Twisting? Of bending. Of backtracking? Not quite sure what the concept would be called, but this is a prime example of it:
Being shown wrong.
Then going, "Oh, well I'm still right because...", modifying it.

SirCakez is scum, who needs AJ as a mislynch candidate.

This is confbiased garbage. Just because part of the theory that makes up part of my scumread on someone was wrong, is not going to make me totally dump that scumread.

[Heartless]

And the claim timing makes any more sense as town?

yes, definitely

because aj!scum just winging it wouldn't know if he would get cc'ed or not

[SirCakez]

AJ!scum isn't going to know if he's going to be CCed or not regardless of when he claims unless scum get some inside info or something.
So assuming he already had the JK fakeclaim planned that doesn't really hold water imo.

[Heartless]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[SirCakez]

The post you just made???

[Heartless]

of COURSE timing matters. that's why the scummiest people go first in a massclaim, so there's less info to base a fakeclaim on

[Heartless]

there is no fucking way you actually believe there's an equal amount of risk to fake claiming now vs fake claiming later

[SirCakez]

And given how AJ is fairly widely scumread, he would have been early in said massclaim no?
Plus he's been getting towncred from his super bizarre claim timing. So it wouldn't be a bad scum play.
P-edit: No ugh
I'm having a hard time trying to word this

Like basically I think he knew about the risks of early fakeclaiming and took his chances in order to try to get the towncred from it.

[Heartless]

Plus he's been getting towncred from his super bizarre claim timing. So it wouldn't be a bad scum play.

him giving a specific n1 and n2 target would be HORRIBLE scum play

[SirCakez]

Now that's something I didn't consider and is a really good point since that would be suicidal.
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(time for more backtracking yay!) I guess then scrap him being non-JK scum faking JK.

[SirCakez]

My critical thinking is not up to participate lately q.q

[SirCakez]

up to par*
PoS autocorrect

[Heartless]

I'm having a hard time trying to word this

yeah you're having a hard time wording it because the words for it would be "anus-puckering awfulness"

the fleeting reward isn't anywhere NEAR the massive amount of risk that would come with the claim

[SirCakez]

You're right.

But him being a scum JK would negate those risks so I'm not going to discount that part.

[SirCakez]

Honestly I reallllly hate setup spec. Like I just want to rope scummy people, not solve a power levels puzzle. I know some people get a kick out of it but I hate it. So that's why I'm kinda jumbled with all these claims and balancing the power levels and etc.

[Heartless]

YOU WERE THE ONE THAT PUT YOUR TWO BITS IN AND SAID MASTIN MADE A GOOD POINT

[SirCakez]

Yes because I was all like "oh mastina knows her setup spec and that looks reasonable" but then oh I didn't understand the nuances of Ajs claim and then oh what I'm saying doesn't make sense and then oh I suck and shouldn't setup spec

[Heartless]

whatever

VOTE: zefiend