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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:57 pm

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You were warned, now look what you caused.

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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:08 pm

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In post 1668, Vecna wrote:Do you really think Scum A&N would have to resort to this type of tactics?
have you ever played ith Alisae?
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:16 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:18 pm

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But im judging that statement purely on the effort put forth by the hydra in this game. And the level of its performance is in my opinion high enough, to conclude that if they are doing this as scum, they wouldnt need to resort to calling out lurkers.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:19 pm

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Do you think mafia ever say town sounding things for cheap town cred?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:22 pm

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In post 1659, The DEO wrote:Beeboy: New arrival, null town PV, Town, Town
uhh no.
the beeboy wagon is the dirty one, minus obv-town PV
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:30 pm

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A&E wagon looks a lot dirtier to me.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:31 pm

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I think theres a reasonable chance of there being 1 scum in <PV & ABR>
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:31 pm

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In post 1679, Nero Cain wrote:Do you think mafia ever say town sounding things for cheap town cred?
No, they'd never do that :good:
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:33 pm

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This is sorta how I feel right now.


Yuri
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Lil Uzi Vert
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The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna
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Fro99er

Akane and Nebby
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Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage

beeboy
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ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV
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NoticeMeSenpa
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The DEO
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Sondam

Fro99er
(1):
Leonshade

Sondam
(1):
Drixx


Not Voting (3):
Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:34 pm

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And to elaborate, saying things that can go both ways just in the hopes that people interpret it the right way is also not something the A&E hydra doesnt have to resort to imo.

The much more likely explanation in light of the rest of their play is that they just dont like lurkers.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:35 pm

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In post 1684, Nero Cain wrote:This is sorta how I feel right now.


Yuri
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Lil Uzi Vert
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The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna
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Fro99er

Akane and Nebby
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Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage

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Elbirn

The DEO
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Sondam

Fro99er
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Leonshade

Sondam
(1):
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Not Voting (3):
Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa
Someone is taking my request for entertainment VERY literal.

Hahahhaha. Like, did you just switch around all the colours of your real reads on purpose?
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:36 pm

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What do you think of them wanting a flash wagon on the lurkers and then saying they were null?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:36 pm

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Tell me what allows you to deduce that both Beeboy and Yuri are town.

Im really wondering about Albert B rampage as well.
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:37 pm

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In post 1687, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of them wanting a flash wagon on the lurkers and then saying they were null?
Didnt they just talk about flashwagons as a means to pressure lurkers to be more active?

Allright let me humor you and go read into this.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:38 pm

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hey look, Vecna is trying to laugh off and discredit my reads.
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:38 pm

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In post 1688, Vecna wrote:Tell me what allows you to deduce that both Beeboy and Yuri are town.

Im really wondering about Albert B rampage as well.
Or did you just start with the assumption that A&E is scum, and filled in all the colours to fit with that theory?
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:39 pm

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In post 1690, Nero Cain wrote:hey look, Vecna is trying to laugh off and discredit my reads.
Yes I am, so what?

I think theyre horrible.

Try and convince me why theyre correct instead of whining about me being mean to you.
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:43 pm

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no, I'll just lynch them and watch you squirm as you hold the cold lifeless bodies of your buddies and cry out "why! we did we not nighkill Nero!"
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:44 pm

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In post 1581, Akane and Nebby wrote:
In post 1576, Yuri wrote:
In post 1383, Akane and Nebby wrote:tbh I'd be more interested in a flashwagon on people like ooba, Pine hydra, ABR right now.
Like I feel like scum is specifically avoid discussing them to save them for mislynches for later.
Also I'm waiting to say my piece on beeboy. Now is not the time nor the place.

-Nebby
Now, this is actually want I wanted to talk about. Nebby wants to flashwagon the people he thinks scum is saving for mislynches.
Rule 1 of playing scum: If someone is lurking, let them lurk and eat a mislynch later.

Creature said he was down for those too. Does that make him scum?
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nebby thinks that scum ignore lurkers on Day 1
so pressuring them is the "town" thing to do
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:47 pm

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How about you answer my questions regarding your reads on Yuri, Beebop and Albert B rampage?

Because I did just go through A&E's iso to confirm my thoughts and look at your reasons for scumreading the slot, and he indeed suggested flash-wagoning lurkers to force them to participate like i thought. Which is fine to me, and gives me no cause to doubt my read on him.

Thinking theyre null isnt a reason to not want to pressure them into participation so they can actually be sorted.
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:50 pm

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In post 1688, Vecna wrote:Tell me what allows you to deduce that both Beeboy and Yuri are town.
so town beeboy gets ran up and there's a cw to Yuri? Why?

Scum Beeboy gets ran up and there's a CW to scum Yuri?

So yeah, there is atleast one town there. Its like you aren't critically thinking at all.
In post 1691, Vecna wrote:Or did you just start with the assumption that A&E is scum, and filled in all the colours to fit with that theory?
but this is p accurate.

I'm also running with Titus calling the Yuri and Bee wagons town lead as a slip.
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:51 pm

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In post 1695, Vecna wrote:Thinking theyre null isnt a reason to not want to pressure them into participation so they can actually be sorted.
So why does she never vote them?
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:52 pm

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In post 1696, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1688, Vecna wrote:Tell me what allows you to deduce that both Beeboy and Yuri are town.
so town beeboy gets ran up and there's a cw to Yuri? Why?

Scum Beeboy gets ran up and there's a CW to scum Yuri?

So yeah, there is atleast one town there. Its like you aren't critically thinking at all.
In post 1691, Vecna wrote:Or did you just start with the assumption that A&E is scum, and filled in all the colours to fit with that theory?
but this is p accurate.

I'm also running with Titus calling the Yuri and Bee wagons town lead as a slip.
Youre townreading both slots, so using the argument that the other is a CW doesnt fit with this explenation. Youre directly contradicting your own reads with this explenation

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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:53 pm

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In post 1697, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1695, Vecna wrote:Thinking theyre null isnt a reason to not want to pressure them into participation so they can actually be sorted.
So why does she never vote them?
That I cannot answer

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