Mini Normal 1879 Bringer Mafia II [Game Over]

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Penguin Power

are you going to chide Gerry for that while you lurk all game?

[Fro99er]

Yo Penguin just hops on the big wagon every time too

I also have this weird feelikng Penguin wasn't prodded because he was in his scum chat talking.

[PenguinPower]

are you going to chide Gerry for that while you lurk all game?

Yes. Because I'm actually taking a stance and providing my thoughts on slots, despite my low activity. He's not.

Yo Penguin just hops on the big wagon every time too

Which happened to be on my two expressed scum reads prior to - at least for Wheme - being started.

I also have this weird feelikng Penguin wasn't prodded because he was in his scum chat talking.

You should probably read the rules.

[Fro99er]

You should probably read the rules.

I did.

You're scum

[Firebringer]

This is a story about how my life as mod got turned around, so sit right there as I tell you how I became the Prince of a little place called Bringer Mafia.

Vote Count #1.10:

WhemeStar [L-4] ChaosOmega, ECMitchell, PenguinPower
Lowell [L-4] Naomi-Tan, WhemeStar, Aj The Epic
ECMitchell [L-5] Terata, Lowell
Hawk [L-6] Cooperative Sheep,
Gerryoat [L-6] Lil Uzi Vert,
Cooperative Sheep [L-6] Hawk
PenguinPower [L-6] Fro99er

Not Voting (1): gerryoat,

With 13 people alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2017-02-13 15:45:00)

[PenguinPower]

Ok.

[Fro99er]

Yes. Because I'm actually taking a stance and providing my thoughts on slots, despite my low activity. He's not.

And is that scum indicative for Gerry?

[gerryoat]

I'll actually read later on.

I'll actually reread and give my reads in a bit.

Gonna be honest, this is a prod dodge post.

So...you going to do this all game?

yes. lol

[Firebringer]

.

[Fro99er]

Go look at penguin's iso and his shallow ass reads, and then the way he pressures Gerry for not contributing.

pot meet kettle.

[Fro99er]

I'll actually read later on.

Liar.

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Spoiler: Spoilered wall post that I skimmed and liked

"What are all these bolded lines" you ask. Well it's all the things that pinged me in this post.
He seems super apologetic in his wordings which i haven't really seen from his previous play, an example being "im trying my best to help town" (talking about town as a seperate entity). I also had a problem with how he tries to take credit for coming up with certain reads that he clearly sheeped from others in the thread. If he said he sheeped them it would be completely fine, but he talks like he thought them up himself. Specifically the one about Lowell slipping about AJ's reads but also a little about the Sheep read, which was summarized with what problems other's have had with Sheep all game (and this is after he read the posts "over and over").

He made sure to point out someone who had done less pro-town things than he has (gerry) which mafia loves to do when they feel they're getting pressure even though there are towns not showing towniness. And he KEPT saying he's having the same null/townread about Gerry which he had for the same reason as earlier that had been called out by BOTH gerry and frogg, who you're still saying pointed out the initial slip. He just won't back down from his initial statement even though it's clearly wrong, and that's much more scummy than being wrong in the first place in this scenario. Also, why would he even say Gerry's been contributing less than he has if he's still null-townreading gerry? Seems like standard shade to me.

Last but not least i dislike in what form he gives his Naomi read. He says it like "I also think Lowell is wrong on Naomi..." as to shade Lowell (his scumread) for being wrong on a town, which seems like a tmi read to me if i've ever seen one. That read just doesn't come naturally to you to call Lowell wrong in your case on him if you don't know the alignment of the person being read. And disliked how he phrased "id like to vote" at the end. A struggling finish to a scummy post.

This is what a confident vote looks like VOTE: WhemeStar !

(Chaos made me doubt since his comeback)

Sheep fell apart. I can do Wheme.

VOTE: Wheme

Also, most of my reads are sheeps from other people

Want me to reveal?

I'm going to try and vote you again.
VOTE: Wheme
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Spoiler: Why I think Gerry is scum

58, 134, 136, and 152

What first pinged me about Gerry before I did my first reread of his ISO was his 58. On the surface it looks like just filler, but if you look and think it about it on a deeper level, he's arguable treating himself as confirmed town that shouldn't be considered for a lynch today by anyone for getting the game out of RVS as well as starting a wagon on Sheep.

Fast forward to a bit to 134, he does the same thing again by discrediting not only Naomi's read on him but also her as a player by bringing up a previous game without any context in which he claims he got two members of the scum team lynched.

136 is self explanatory.

I'm inclined to believe 152 is more scum motivated than town motivated and it only reinforces my read on him. He's hints at a PR of some sort and says he shouldn't be lynched today. There was no pressure on him at the time and the overall focus was on Sheep as well as the various arguments Frog was getting into so it was odd for him to drop that soft like it's hot and just leave. Scum have more to gain by bread crumbing in my opinion. It helps them with fake claiming and it can potential draw doctors and jail keepers to them.

TL:DR: Gerry has been been basically treating himself as confirmed town since RVS ended.

I think Gerry tried to distance from Sheep early and it sort of backfired a bit. I also think he could be just scum that tried to spread and pray on paranoia early and Sheep is town.

If we lynch Gerry today, we'll probably feel a lot better about Sheep's alignment

LUV moves up in my townreads to join Fro99er and Naomi. Congrats on the promotion. Unfortunately there is no pay raise associated.

^^^^THIS POST IS TERRIBLE

[ECMitchell]

So...you going to do this all game?

yes. lol

I agree that you have been extremely unhelpful. Please stop deliberately ignoring requests to contribute.

[ECMitchell]

@Mod,

can you please fix the quote tags in my last post? Apologies.

[PenguinPower]

And is that scum indicative for Gerry?

Dunno. As far as I know, he's always killed D1 as town so he doesn't get a chance to do much; but, I've never seen this level of content from him as either. He should at least be shitposting more.

[ECMitchell]

@Mod,

I believe the vote count is incorrect. AJ's vote is on Lowell currently: Post 628.

~I need to force Maria to double check every vote count I do >.>

[Fro99er]

Wheme has been obvious scum since minute 1 which is why I've opted to just ignore him and look for his partners. If we can lynch his partners first, he'll probably just concede.

this is the worst logic ever

[Firebringer]

Havingfitz replaces Naomi Tan. Please welcome him.

[Terata]

welcome!

[Firebringer]

Lil Uzi Vert has been prodded.

[gerryoat]

welcome fitz

[WhemeStar]

Welcome to he game, HavingFitz

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Prod received.

Will catch-up either later tonight or sometime tomorrow.

[Aj The Epic]

So Terata, Lowell, Penguin and possibly wheme/hawk brining up the scumboat. Also ECM is now officially a vanity wagon with no reason for either scumbutts to be on it.

[Fro99er]

@Mod: V/LA until Monday but will try to check in 1x/day. Posted to all games

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Re: Hawk's wall on me.

Complains that I don't sound at all times like I'm considering Frogger might be town.
Complains that, when i call Frogger town, I express distaste and issues with Frogger applying a case on me based off something that didn't happen.
Hangs a hat on how he's attacking me for attacking him.
Complains that I'm not on Chaos, even though I specifically said I was on the Hawk wagon because it was bigger.

tl:dr - I don't find his arguments town indicative.

I don't see the issue here. Bad arguments doesn't make someone scum.

Are you trying to say that his arguments are so bad and contrived that they couldn't possibly be coming from town?