Mini Normal 1873 (Game Over)

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:46 pm

You know I'm town, you may or may not think Titus is scum, but even if you can't see what she's doing, I know, I'm not saying what I think she's doing but just back off.

Garmr · Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:48 pm

In post 1718, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I see what you did there

No offence gin but you should be really thinking right now if you think titus has a guilty.

Because then claimed roles are

joat role cop varitions plus fruit vender
joat cop varitions
joat dr varitions
roleblocker
titus supposed role that makes gin want

It pretty much confirms that one of the power roles proposed is lying about their role or alignment. Town would not have this much power.

Titus · Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:48 pm

In post 1727, Garmr wrote:
In post 1718, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I see what you did there
No offence gin but you should be really thinking right now if you think titus has a guilty.

Because then claimed roles are

joat role cop varitions plus fruit vender
joat cop varitions
joat dr varitions
roleblocker
titus supposed role that makes gin want

It pretty much confirms that one of the power roles proposed is lying about their role or alignment. Town would not have this much power.

Balance whine when I haven't even claimed officially. Priceless.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:49 pm

@Gin, for the record I still think Titus is most likely town. I don't think scum Titus will fake dumb as this post:

In post 1433, Titus wrote:Do scum have daychat?

<<< Answered in 1546. >>>

Garmr · Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:49 pm

In post 1728, Titus wrote:
In post 1727, Garmr wrote:
In post 1718, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I see what you did there
No offence gin but you should be really thinking right now if you think titus has a guilty.

Because then claimed roles are

joat role cop varitions plus fruit vender
joat cop varitions
joat dr varitions
roleblocker
titus supposed role that makes gin want

It pretty much confirms that one of the power roles proposed is lying about their role or alignment. Town would not have this much power.
Balance whine when I haven't even claimed officially. Priceless.

Shh town talk only sweet heart.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:50 pm

Garmr, why are you trying to discredit a claim before one has even claimed?

ThinkBig · Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:51 pm

In post 1731, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:claimed?

Possibly scum buddy with devil?

Titus · Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:51 pm

In post 1729, ThinkBig wrote:@Gin, for the record I still think Titus is most likely town. I don't think scum Titus will fake dumb as this post:

In post 1433, Titus wrote:Do scum have daychat?

<<< Answered in 1546. >>>

No shit. Now, why don't you go through and ask yourself why I make every post I do. Keep asking if confused. Then ask some more.

Then pass me the bottle.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:51 pm

Let him answer his own questions when I ask him directly.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:52 pm

In post 1733, Titus wrote:Then pass me the bottle.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:53 pm

VOTE: Devil

Titus · Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:54 pm

In post 1734, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Let him answer his own questions when I ask him directly.

:nod: What you do when interrupting for someone is called Garciaing. It interrupts read formation. Do it only if you have a good reason to do so, as you delay town. Gin technically Garciaed to tell you to back off and I

think

he knows what I am doing here, and it is the right play. 9/10 it's a bad idea though.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:55 pm

I only did it to TB because I know TB is town in this case, as to why I don't need read information, Garmr on the other hand...

Titus · Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:59 pm

In post 1738, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I only did it to TB because I know TB is town in this case, as to why I don't need read information, Garmr on the other hand...

Technically, you know TB is town or Mob doctor, but I think that TB's town here.

Titus · Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:00 pm

Unless I have your results backwards...

ThinkBig · Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:02 pm

In post 1739, Titus wrote:
In post 1738, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I only did it to TB because I know TB is town in this case, as to why I don't need read information, Garmr on the other hand...
Technically, you know TB is town or Mob doctor, but I think that TB's town here.

In post 1740, Titus wrote:Unless I have your results backwards...

Yeah. He used his cop result on me and gunsmith on BBT. I obviously can't be a mod doctor.

Also there is obviously no vig or SK so there will be no need for a mob doc

Titus · Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:03 pm

In post 1741, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1739, Titus wrote:
In post 1738, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I only did it to TB because I know TB is town in this case, as to why I don't need read information, Garmr on the other hand...
Technically, you know TB is town or Mob doctor, but I think that TB's town here.

In post 1740, Titus wrote:Unless I have your results backwards...
Yeah. He used his cop result on me and gunsmith on BBT. I obviously can't be a mod doctor.

Also there is obviously no vig or SK so there will be no need for a mob doc

Mob doctor is sometimes included just to fool a GS. I had the results backwards. Mob doctor is sometimes included just to fool a GS though.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:03 pm

In post 1742, Titus wrote:
In post 1741, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1739, Titus wrote:
In post 1738, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I only did it to TB because I know TB is town in this case, as to why I don't need read information, Garmr on the other hand...
Technically, you know TB is town or Mob doctor, but I think that TB's town here.

In post 1740, Titus wrote:Unless I have your results backwards...
Yeah. He used his cop result on me and gunsmith on BBT. I obviously can't be a mod doctor.

Also there is obviously no vig or SK so there will be no need for a mob doc
Mob doctor is sometimes included just to fool a GS. I had the results backwards. Mob doctor is sometimes included just to fool a GS though.

Did not know that.

Titus · Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:05 pm

No one claimed negative utility right?

ThinkBig · Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:06 pm

In post 1744, Titus wrote:No one claimed negative utility right?

You will probably disagree with me, but I view town role blockers as having more negative utility than pro town utility.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:07 pm

negative utility as "only hurts town"

Titus · Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:07 pm

In post 1745, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1744, Titus wrote:No one claimed negative utility right?
You will probably disagree with me, but I view town role blockers as having more negative utility than pro town utility.

Fair enough. I'm just looking at balance in mind. I was thinking more ascetics or things like that.

ThinkBig · Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:09 pm

In post 1747, Titus wrote:
In post 1745, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1744, Titus wrote:No one claimed negative utility right?
You will probably disagree with me, but I view town role blockers as having more negative utility than pro town utility.
Fair enough. I'm just looking at balance in mind. I was thinking more ascetics or things like that.

Fair enough.

The reason I think town role blockers do more to hurt town than help town is because they are far more likely to role block town PRs or VTs than scum performing the NK.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:10 pm

Can we not talk about role blockers until tomorrow?

Titus · Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:10 pm

In post 1748, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1747, Titus wrote:
In post 1745, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1744, Titus wrote:No one claimed negative utility right?
You will probably disagree with me, but I view town role blockers as having more negative utility than pro town utility.
Fair enough. I'm just looking at balance in mind. I was thinking more ascetics or things like that.
Fair enough.

The reason I think town role blockers do more to hurt town than help town is because they are far more likely to role block town PRs or VTs than scum performing the NK.

Yes, and that might be how Lexa's role functions here.

But when that question is asked, people almost universally mean millers/ascetics. Things you claim Day 1, 99 times out of 100.

Beloved Princesses and Lovers technically fall into that category but are not claimed for obvious reasons.