~laundry~ FIN

[Errantparabola]

@Mod if a weak role visited a miller would the weak role die?

Worth a shit

If weak roles target someone who is aligned with the Town, they will not die.

edit: OHHHHHHHHHH PAGETOP HYPE

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Tammy, Fro99er

, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2):

Toogeloo

, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

So I look at this. Bolded is dead town or MASONS.

There's got to be scum off the main wagon not doing anything unless we're thinking that THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM bussed Creature which would be ballsy since that's 3-4 people chilling on THE wagon.
Literally everyone on your (Sly) wagon could be scum except Maria.
drealmerz is doing some low-impact crap here that's basically opposite of everything I know him for - even if he disagrees ONLY on game theory or is scumreading me despite THE WORLD saying no (Strahd) he's going to be screaming his lungs out regardless. I think he has a decent chance to be scum.
Zach is a scumread for everything I've said before.
Nos is another low-impact says a few good things and disappears.

Toog is a mason. You're town.

Fire is leaning town but I would be 0% surprised if he were scum. I've basically based this entire read on his attitude. The I DONT APOLOGIZE was basically what he said to me when we were talking about being force-replaced and I was like "yeah no I was an ass" and he was like I DONT APOLOGIZE. So I think he's likely town.

[SlySly]

Same, re: Desp.

I know.
And then I started thinking about why Nacho busses Creature and commits suicide as scum.
That would actually be moonbeams.
Like, some things are NAI for him. Defusing the Tammy/Andrius was just a NACHO AS A PERSON move so I don't see that either way.

I'm having trouble because his heart isn't here but he's also not pretending it is.

Look how different these are...

Creature (9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

Scum be on my wagon.

[SlySly]

This chardonnay is bold.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

We have three people on you both times.

[Desperado]

I mean, whatever happened to people getting a solid read and sticking to it? Why in the hell would I change my mind just because it's an unpopular opinion? Fuck off, that's not how I roll.

because it doesn't make any sense and when nacho flips town your read goes up in flames

we can avoid that!

[Desperado]

i'd be looking at the people who weren't on sly yesterday

[Desperado]

fire was off sly and creature yesterday

[Andrius]

i'd be looking at the people who weren't on sly yesterday

So:

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

-Nos
-Zach
-drealmerz
-Toog for mason

LEAVES:
SAD
FB

[Desperado]

ya

fire claiming protective and then claiming to have not read the thread to know that fro99er claimed cop is objectively the worst thing anyone has done all game

[Andrius]

Yeah but didn't he send SAD something last night?
IIRC SAD claimed receipt of something.

Which really means nothing at the moment but whatever.
Like I think he's town but he's done so little.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Desperado

Dayne like my gift?

VOTE: Desperado

Dayne like my gift?

I didn't get anything :/

Was I blocked?

LOL nvm

EP gave it to me now firebringer.

[Pine]

Sly can we chat?

What do you think of [Nacho, Desp]?
Because I'm second-guessing myself a bit and don't like it.

Sly can we chat?

What do you think of [Nacho, Desp]?
Because I'm second-guessing myself a bit and don't like it.

I got Desp as town.

I was curious as to your case on Nacho.

I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Tammy, Fro99er

, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2):

Toogeloo

, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

So I look at this. Bolded is dead town or MASONS.

There's got to be scum off the main wagon not doing anything unless we're thinking that THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM bussed Creature which would be ballsy since that's 3-4 people chilling on THE wagon.
Literally everyone on your (Sly) wagon could be scum except Maria.
drealmerz is doing some low-impact crap here that's basically opposite of everything I know him for - even if he disagrees ONLY on game theory or is scumreading me despite THE WORLD saying no (Strahd) he's going to be screaming his lungs out regardless. I think he has a decent chance to be scum.
Zach is a scumread for everything I've said before.
Nos is another low-impact says a few good things and disappears.

Toog is a mason. You're town.

Fire is leaning town but I would be 0% surprised if he were scum. I've basically based this entire read on his attitude. The I DONT APOLOGIZE was basically what he said to me when we were talking about being force-replaced and I was like "yeah no I was an ass" and he was like I DONT APOLOGIZE. So I think he's likely town.

The distractability away from the Creature wagon only really makes sense if scum were mostly trying to stay off it until the end. The "Oh fine" attitude of Nacho deciding he didn't have a choice but to bus is a key point in the case against him.

Same, re: Desp.

I know.
And then I started thinking about why Nacho busses Creature and commits suicide as scum.
That would actually be moonbeams.
Like, some things are NAI for him. Defusing the Tammy/Andrius was just a NACHO AS A PERSON move so I don't see that either way.

I'm having trouble because his heart isn't here but he's also not pretending it is.

Look how different these are...

Creature (9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

Scum be on my wagon.

drealmerz, poooosssssibly Nos.

[Desperado]

I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.

this is what i mean by you being inflexible

nacho flipping town shouldnt shift any suspicion towards me at all,

it should be a wake up call that your interpretation of what happened is wrong

especially if you are townreading me right now

[Andrius]

I am ok lynching drealmerz.
He's scumreading me and not screaming for my death.
This goes against everything I know about him.

Nos had a few good posts I liked but that's like drops of water in a pail of blood.

[Pine]

I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.

this is what i mean by you being inflexible

nacho flipping town shouldnt shift any suspicion towards me at all,

it should be a wake up call that your interpretation of what happened is wrong

especially if you are townreading me right now

1 I saw similar things from you and Nacho.

2 Prior events suggested that you were Town and he was scum

3 Scum are unlikely to both do the same scummy things at the same time

4 This suggests that one, but not both of you are scum

5 If Nacho flips Town, that means my initial read was wrong, and it's probably you instead

6 Nacho isn't flipping Town, so why are you stressing?

7 Even if he does, you claim to be Town, so why are you stressing?

[Pine]

I am ok lynching drealmerz.
He's scumreading me and not screaming for my death.

This goes against everything I know about him.

Nos had a few good posts I liked but that's like drops of water in a pail of blood.

EXACTLY

[Andrius]

VOTE: drealemrz
I'm sure this won't be the only vote I throw tonight.

To arms?

[Pine]

TO ARMS

FLASHWAGON GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOOOOOO

VOTE: drealmerz

[Desperado]

no pine, if nacho flips town that will mean that there will be three confirmed town who will have done the thing you're suggesting is scummy, so...maybe it isn't scummy????

maybe you're just wrong and the scum bussed early, not late??

or....maybe you're just scum who's been coasting on the threat of a really awesome PR all game????

[Desperado]

nah, dreal wagon is horseshit

[Desperado]

unvote
vote: pine

[Pine]

Dude, I don't coast in all of my games for the sake of one. I've been really active here in comparison.

Just shut up, Desp. The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

[Desperado]

pine casts self-meta!






it failed.

[Andrius]

The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

Vote Count 2.11

Randomidget -[2] Secret Agent Jin, Creature,

Creature - [8] The Underachievers, Randommidget, Dunnstral, Realeo, Hermie,

Pine

, BulbaFenix, Blawb,

Not Voting - [4] curiouskarmadog, Froot Loop, Camn, hiplop,

Mod Notes - Only votes for Creature or Randomidget will be counted.
Deadline has been extended due to the holidays, 3 days have been added to clock. No prods will go out during next few days. Have a wonderful Turkey Day.
cursiouskarmadog is V/LA till 27th
Realeo is V/LA till 27th

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 To Lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-12-01 20:00:00)!