[Game Over] Open 673 - Tit for Tat

[Kop]

So why did you vote him after agreeing with me on that scum would stay on Sheep's wagon?

It's WIFOM. I agree with the sentiments but over thinking more about it, I think he still could be scum.

[Kop]

So why did you vote him after agreeing with me on that scum would stay on Sheep's wagon?

I've overlooked the pages leading to the hammer, it looked more like Sesq was trying to derail it. I'm feeling less confident in what I agreed with originally now.

[The_Jester]

Well yeah it sure looked like she tried to derail it but wouldn't it be strange for a townie to get cold feet after seeing how literally nobody opposed the wagon?

[The_Jester]

I meant 'would it be strange'

[Kop]

Well yeah it sure looked like she tried to derail it but wouldn't it be strange for a townie to get cold feet after seeing how literally nobody opposed the wagon?

I've getting cold feet over someone who appeared to be the only viable lynch for that day. As a townie.

But as scum, it may have appeared too much like being a top busser if your scum read quite a bit and your remaining on the wagon. I think in this situation, Sesq could have tried to come off it, oppose it and if the lynch went elsewhere it wouldn't look bad at this stage of the game, but as the lynch went through anyway, it's all now WIFOM "in as scum would he do this".

[Intermission]

My hunch is that Sesq is scum, saw the Sheep wagon as a lost cause, and backed off. Either the derail would work or she'd look less suspicious. But like Kop said, we're getting into wifom territory. It's still my best scum read at this point though. It was becoming more and more clear sheep was scum, if sesq was town wouldn't she have supported the wagon?

[The_Jester]

Bella have you sorted Charloux out yet?

[Charloux]

I claim Town backup cop. Now that the Mafia backup jailer is dead, I am just a named VT. Will catch up soon because I didnt have acess to the computer for 5 days. The guy who hammered early has my thanks because I wouldve been replaced.
Transc is scum most likely. Kop was never a SR, was just copying how trans does his reads to try and annoy him because he didnt answer my filler question

[The_Jester]

I claim Town backup cop. Now that the Mafia backup jailer is dead, I am just a named VT.

Erm...I don't think that's how it works

[Charloux]

Town backup rolecop*
I cant find goons and I dont have the night ability before the mafia rolecop dies. So, yeah pretty much a named VT

[The_Jester]

Ohh I'm dumb

[The_Jester]

Well then, I'm happy I read you right (kinda). So what's your Transcend case? I recall you saying he's just being his normal trol!y self before

[The_Jester]

I was kinda tipped off by how he mimicked Siblings' tunnel on Sheep (and being so sure of Sheep's scumflip) plus I disliked him not answering questions (obviously) but knowing the playstyle he's (in)famous for, I've disregarded that. What have I missed?

[Sesq]

Well, that was a surprising flip, and surprising NK's, and I really have no idea who to go for right now. As for stuff regarding my potential bussing, I'll throw out Mini Normal 1857, in which I was scum and bussing a ton. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69351

I don't know if this gets me town or scum points but like, more info for town the better, definitely.

[Charloux]

His fake hammer on Sheep. He either knew he would flip scum and so decided to hammer him, but whoops he was already on him. OR he forgot about his vote on him and he wanted to cut the day short. Note that the vig would shoot him most likely like he shot our local drunkard.
I can't deny him just wanting attention. Bella you played with him the most right? Which of these is most likely for town!Trans and scum!Trans?

Spoiler:

VOTE: sheep

why didn't someone say he was l-1

oh i was already voting that way

boring

After a Sheep hammer was unavoidable he decided to... Cut the day short and get some town cred? Seems about right

Spoiler:

alternatively just lolhammer and be done with it

did it get hammered lol

His read progression on me. Note that i haven't said anything and it just naturally went from "scummy for discrediting my townreads" to "scum, lynch it"

Spoiler:

i did not like charloux immediately discrediting my tr on kop

Sheep/Sesq/Charloux are my current scum leans.

decent scumpile ngl. could rope up charloux too.

kop and bella opinions?

yeah im probably instantly egovoting charloux at the start of tomorrow

Okay then, how about this
VOTE: Charloux

[Charloux]

Read Sesq's and Sheeps interaction from D1, i don't see them being scum together.
VOTE: Transcend

[The_Jester]

Plus he hasn't interacted with Trans

at all

. Seems plausible.

VOTE: Trans

[The_Jester]

He = Sheep

[Sesq]

No read explanations, not townread by me.

VOTE: Transcend

[Intermission]

Charloux, I think you're right. Sesq and Sheep really don't look like partners. Sesq and Transcend have been my biggest scum reads but I'm less sure about her now.

VOTE: Transcend

[The_Jester]

This is L-1 btw

[Charloux]

I have an inferiority complex concerning my reads, so Transcend getting 4 votes without any resistance is alarming to me.
He is at L-1 right now, you forgot to add btw.

[ECMitchell]

So whoever killed plague nice job vigging the guy who put scum out of their misery. Really nice job.

It's intermission and Charloux imo. Any objections?

Unless I'm reading the day start very wrong, the flavor says the vigilante shot Siblings, meaning scum shot plague. (No clue as to why, but hey, works for us.) Transcend's comment here makes me think he wasn't in the know of night actions.

I see the votes coming his way. Let me read his ISO before weighing in. I remember there only being a couple posts of his that bothered me: the scum flip chant leading the wagon on Sheep, and the dead-set confidence he was scum despite a swift hammer with no claim.

[Kop]

I don't like how he has been ran up to L-1 so easily, at least can someone unvote him in case someone decides to hammer him.

[Sesq]

I don't like how he has been ran up to L-1 so easily, at least can someone unvote him in case someone decides to hammer him.

On it.

UNVOTE: Transcend