Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[gerryoat]

I want to vote Alisae so bad, rn. But I won't hammer. Cause I know he's a sheep and does that as town.

[Alisae]

Kuror. I know you're town.
I was gambiting.
Unvote to hear Clums.

VOTE: Garrybote

So you just had me as 100% town. And now when he says he wants me wagoned i'm suddenly the best lynch

When I drew out the lylo charts I was intrigued.

Alisae, what does your post earlier here mean? "I know you're town Kuror, I was gambiting". What were you hoping to gain from that?

In my little tiny, malfunctioning brain I was thinking I only had scum between Kuror and Kuror's tone really seemed like town who just wanted out. I was trying to gambit by saying I was going to self vote but not self vote the next day cuz I was honestly just desperate.

[Alisae]

Garrybote was hardbussing.

Why would I need to hard bus? I had the votes for Elena and I could have hopped on that. I literally drove votes off on Elena onto Zach when it wasn't needed.

Mining towncred.
That bus would get you to lylo

[Clumsy]

Kuror, thoughts?

[gerryoat]

Not only was I neighbored by Cloud, I wanted to have Zach vigged instead of PV and asked vig to do so the night before. Why would I do that to be solo maf right there with 2 mislynches to give town? Why would I go out of my way to stop the Elena bw after I saw her ate and vote Zach and then beg for others to jump on the wagon? Basically if I was mafia I was doing things that I didn't need to do because the risk was to high

[Alisae]

Garry.
The nighbored by Cloudie shit is honestly just a bunch of fucking WIFOM.
Wanting to have Zach vigged instead of PV is called distancing.
Becuase it would win you the game and give you the scum victory you wanted.
If you hopped on the Elena wagon that would make you really sus.

High risk, really high reward.

[gerryoat]

I like the idea of me deciding vig shots, but I'd like a little input from everyone else too (taken with a grain of salt).

My list that I would like is [PeregrineV, Drealmerz7, and Zach].

take out pv imo

If we lynch Alisae I'd shoot Zach out of those.

I personally would love a dreal shot. but, pls follow the vig pool since he's confirmed town.

Gerry please. I just did. [Zach, PeregrineV, Transcend/Alisae]

Gerry/Zach/???

yes i want my partner vigged, you caught me

[Alisae]

5926 is quite a guilty conscious of you huh?

[gerryoat]

You understand that BYF had me as his highest TR. there was no reason to try and neighbor me n1. And I showed you him trying to buddy me.

[Alisae]

The neighbor stuff is just a bunch of WIFOM dude!
You pocketed BYF, that's why he didn't die N1.

[gerryoat]

Yes, I wanted Zach vigged. What's the point? The only case on me is "wifom" which can be made on anyone. Alisae I don't like how all of a sudden you just have me as scum when these same arguments were brought up earlier, you said i was town. Especially after "trying to figure out the game" and rereading over and over.

[gerryoat]

LOL. How did I pocket him? I tried to lynch him. Now you're bullshiting.

[Alisae]

I suddenly have the urge to push it then.
I was thinking it when I had you drawn out in almost every lylo possibility. That made me really think it was odd that you were in every lylo possibility except one where Me, Kuror, and Elena don't get lynched.

[kuror0]

Yep, I think scum gerry would have won ages ago. yesterday when I was revieving everything I did consider the possibility but it does a lot less sense than scum alissae or elena.

Post the case clumsy you are town and know you are not trying to distract or anything so take your time post the case and lets asses but it will really have to be a mind blowing case for me to shift. While I revievew and started having doubts about gerry I noticed he had way better options for scum play. If you trully believe in that case post it and I will make my best to have a sane judgment about it. Maybe you bring stuff that I overlooked or forgot but I really doubt I change my mind.

p-edit 1 2 and 3: pls let me post this ignores like 1 page of posts already.

[drealmerz7]

Drealmerz sure as hell isn't going to. I think the dude personally holds a grudge against me.

? no ?

get your head out of your ass

you're going down a bad path from bad influences and you need to stop before it is too late

...tired of trying to get this shit to post...

[drealmerz7]

I suddenly have the urge to push it then.
I was thinking it when I had you drawn out in almost every lylo possibility. That made me really think it was odd that you were in every lylo possibility except one where Me, Kuror, and Elena don't get lynched.

everything you say at this point is worthless

just shut the fuck up

[Alisae]

Garrybote you know what I love about this interaction? You're giving me my arguements as I go along

[Clumsy]

Sure thing Kuror0, almost done formatting.

Elena, I need your input here.

[Clumsy]

Also please, again, no hammers yet. Very important.

[gerryoat]

If you hopped on the Elena wagon that would make you really sus.

Also this is a lie, because the day before I said that Elena and Zach were likely maf together. SO I had a very probably cause and reason to vote Elena. I also voted Elena and said she could be mafia a few days ago. So again, that is another lie by you. You aren't doing any research you're just saying a bunch of bullshit.

[Alisae]

I'm not at L-1 anymore.

[Elena Fisher]

Sorta busy but I'll try gerry's just played really sub optimal if he's scum to be honest I can try and get a rownread outside of gerry but that's the best way I see myself voting him it just seems very unlikely

[Alisae]

If you hopped on the Elena wagon that would make you really sus.

Also this is a lie, because the day before I said that Elena and Zach were likely maf together. SO I had a very probably cause and reason to vote Elena. I also voted Elena and said she could be mafia a few days ago. So again, that is another lie by you. You aren't doing any research you're just saying a bunch of bullshit.

You brought Elena all the way here because she's an easy mislynch.
That's why you bussed Zach over hopping on Elena.

[Clumsy]

Alright, so here's the part where I get things thrown at my head. I lied. A lot. I came into this day fully wanting to lynch Kuror0. I don't hard townread him. The best I had was a gutread from the beginning of the game, and that doesn't cut it here. The wagon composition points to him. Also, there is no case in the Mason thread against Gerry. I wanted to see what happened if I said that as confirmed town against the one who no one was suspecting. However, if it's not Kuror0, a short day phase and then me dying in the night doesn't make a good next day for town. So I decided to generate some content here for you guys to draw off of tomorrow. Some notes I took:

Spoiler: Notes

-Alisae very eager to hop from wagon to wagon. Especially onto Gerry, who Alisae said was next to conf-town.

Yeah Kuror is town for making that gambit.
Drealmerz is confirmed
Clums is a mason.
Garrybote is pretty much conftown.

PoE decides that Elena is scum.

Garrybote talk to me ;~;

Kuror. I know you're town.
I was gambiting.
Unvote to hear Clums.

VOTE: Garrybote

I trust you completely. I think Garrybote is the best lynch here honestly.
Like I really found it strange that almost every situation that wasn't Me, Kuror, and Elena he was going to lylo.

-Gerry seems to be the only one to notice this.
-Alisae cites it as being intrigued from drawing out the LyLo thing.

Lylo Situations:
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Kuror, Me, Elena
Garrybote, Elena, Kuror
Garrybote, Elena, Me
Garrybote, Kuror, Me

Kuror in a lylo situation between Me, and Elena, who are you most likely to vote?
Elena, in a lylo situation between Me and Kuror, who are you most likely to vote?
Garrybote, in a lylo situation with Me, Kuror, who would you vote? What about in Kuror v Elena? What about in Me v Elena?

-This post is done Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:00 pm, "Gerry is pretty much conf town" at Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:46 pm, first mention of Gerry being scum at Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:06 pm. Why is it only brought up when the Mason shows interest there first?
-Kuror0 shows great reluctance to shift to Gerry, keeping his reads steady. That's... really townie I think.
-Elena also shows restraint to changing read on Gerry.
-The only one that does change their read onto Gerry... is Alisae.


My opinion: I think that if it isn't Kuror0, it's Alisae. Way too eager to try to lead into something, votes going all over the place. Looks like trying to lead town somewhat so that the vote doesn't go onto them. When the vote did swing their way, ATE went flying everywhere. Now Alisae is digging deeper and deeper into Gerry in anticipation of a big post proving his "guilt", where everyone else is very skeptical.

I hope all this helps, especially if it's a mislynch today and, lets face it, I'll be gone tomorrow if that's the case. But several pages of interaction here should help town out.

What does everyone make of these notes? Do we still want to lynch Kuror0? Now that all this is open, I'm still okay with lynching there, but less sure than before.

[Alisae]

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That is a mean, but a very clever joke, I'll give you that one
VOTE: Kuror