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Post Post #4550 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:54 am

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In post 4547, Creature wrote:
In post 4545, The DEO wrote:
In post 4538, Creature wrote:Nero Cain
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Yeah, how about no. This is an awkward as fuck chainsaw of ABR?

Why not lynch everyone who thought beeboy was town?
Is there someone on his wagon that thought he was town?
Back parts did. I did and I would have hammered it. It was an EoD we want the fuck out of here wagon that was diverted away from ABR.
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Post Post #4551 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 4542, Creature wrote:I've seen all-town wagons on scum and all scum on a scum wagon, but never saw an all scum on a town wagon.
I (think I) have, but definitely not in a large game. I think the beeboy wagon was pushed largely by town, with some opportunistic scum also piling on.
Creature wrote:Nero Cain - Town
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Post Post #4552 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 4549, Nero Cain wrote:TBH, we should lynch someone that was hopping between the beeboy, Yuri and whomever else was waggoned yesterday. I think there's a good chance they'd be scum.

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Post Post #4553 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 4534, The DEO wrote:Vecna, vote Natural with me and then we can fry ABR.
Care to explain why you think Natural is usefull?

I honestly think its better to protect people that dont understand the mechanics fully from trying to waste priority on getting stuff from a day earlier.

I dont really -mind- natural since its not a big influence, but its not very beneficial either.

Am I missing something?
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Post Post #4554 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:56 am

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Give names, please.
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Post Post #4555 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:56 am

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Vecna has no inherent read on the game, he just wagoned the leading bandwagon and backwards rationalized. Even Titus, was like "what are you doing" yesterday. Dude is scum, clear as day.
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Post Post #4556 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 4549, Nero Cain wrote:TBH, we should lynch someone that was hopping between the beeboy, Yuri and whomever else was waggoned yesterday. I think there's a good chance they'd be scum.
*cough* ABR*cough*

Why not look at the VCs and see who qualifies with this theory?

I am going with scum in lurkers and the people who defended them. Yuri v beeboy reminded me a lot of Steven Universe 1.
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Post Post #4557 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:56 am

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"We should lynch those who did X"

Who?
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Post Post #4558 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:56 am

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Resolution Vote 2.03


Cultural (1):
Sondam
Natural (6):
Maxous, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Spiffeh, Nero Cain, Drixx
None (4):
Albert B. Rampage, Leonshade, PeregrineV, Vecna

Not Voting (8):
Yuri, Elbirn, Caesar Wills It, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Creature

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to pass a resolution by majority.
Resolution deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 16:35:13), at which point the resolution will be decided via plurality.
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Post Post #4559 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:58 am

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In post 4553, Vecna wrote:
In post 4534, The DEO wrote:Vecna, vote Natural with me and then we can fry ABR.
Care to explain why you think Natural is usefull?

I honestly think its better to protect people that dont understand the mechanics fully from trying to waste priority on getting stuff from a day earlier.

I dont really -mind- natural since its not a big influence, but its not very beneficial either.

Am I missing something?
Nah, dumb people don't need protecting. They need educating.

Natural is an endgame bonus, to ensure we can grab what we need in endgame. We still build today's wonders.
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Post Post #4560 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:58 am

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In post 4556, The DEO wrote:
In post 4549, Nero Cain wrote:TBH, we should lynch someone that was hopping between the beeboy, Yuri and whomever else was waggoned yesterday. I think there's a good chance they'd be scum.
*cough* ABR*cough*

Why not look at the VCs and see who qualifies with this theory?

I am going with scum in lurkers and the people who defended them. Yuri v beeboy reminded me a lot of Steven Universe 1.
Fact Check: I refused to vote for Yuri when he was at L-2, and never voted him...
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Post Post #4561 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:59 am

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Not really up to lynch any of the surviving major counterwagons (ABR and Vecna).
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Post Post #4562 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 4559, The DEO wrote:Natural is an endgame bonus, to ensure we can grab what we need in endgame. We still build today's wonders.
How do you know we didn't draft everything that could be drafted already? We're better off focusing on drafting the new monuments than looking backwards.
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Post Post #4563 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 4548, Creature wrote:How usual are lynchwagons on town containing all scum?
there's not even 11 scum in this game. If by "all scum" you mean the whole scumteam then yeah it would be pretty rare but do you really think that Beeboy wagon went through without scum support? I mean its possible that those 11 players were just all bad tow and/or town that were sick of the day phase (I know I was) but I don't see any greater advantage to lynching off the wagon.
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Post Post #4564 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:00 am

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In post 4560, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 4556, The DEO wrote:
In post 4549, Nero Cain wrote:TBH, we should lynch someone that was hopping between the beeboy, Yuri and whomever else was waggoned yesterday. I think there's a good chance they'd be scum.
*cough* ABR*cough*

Why not look at the VCs and see who qualifies with this theory?

I am going with scum in lurkers and the people who defended them. Yuri v beeboy reminded me a lot of Steven Universe 1.
Fact Check: I refused to vote for Yuri when he was at L-2, and never voted him...
You vote hopped all over the place. That was Nero's point. Yeah you whiteknighted Yuri, big shock.

Your whole stance is NO SERIOUS PUSHES EARLY AS SCUM.
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Post Post #4565 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:01 am

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I hate many of the proposed lynch options so far.

Vecna is the only one I'd consider that has been mentioned so far.

Without rereading their ISO's to clarify my position (which I hope to do later) right now I'm looking at davesaz, Leon, Caesar for scum
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Post Post #4566 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 4556, The DEO wrote:Why not look at the VCs and see who qualifies with this theory?
maybe later.

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for now
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Post Post #4567 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 4563, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4548, Creature wrote:How usual are lynchwagons on town containing all scum?
there's not even 11 scum in this game. If by "all scum" you mean the whole scumteam then yeah it would be pretty rare but do you really think that Beeboy wagon went through without scum support? I mean its possible that those 11 players were just all bad tow and/or town that were sick of the day phase (I know I was) but I don't see any greater advantage to lynching off the wagon.
Yeah, I mean't the whole scumteam.

Yeah, there was some scum support, doesn't mean there aren't scum outside of it.
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Post Post #4568 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 4562, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 4559, The DEO wrote:Natural is an endgame bonus, to ensure we can grab what we need in endgame. We still build today's wonders.
How do you know we didn't draft everything that could be drafted already? We're better off focusing on drafting the new monuments than looking backwards.
Endgame.

Today, each player should draft new shit. Natural gains utility after massclaim. I said that like 5 times. Read my posts rather than just opposing them for oppositions sake.
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Post Post #4569 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:02 am

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In post 4565, Spiffeh wrote:I hate many of the proposed lynch options so far.

Vecna is the only one I'd consider that has been mentioned so far.

Without rereading their ISO's to clarify my position (which I hope to do later) right now I'm looking at davesaz, Leon, Caesar for scum
I support dave and Caesar.
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Post Post #4570 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:02 am

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And guess what? Both of them are outside the beeboy wagon.
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Post Post #4571 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:02 am

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Still don't get why people are town reading Maxous
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Post Post #4572 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:02 am

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In post 4565, Spiffeh wrote:I hate many of the proposed lynch options so far.

Vecna is the only one I'd consider that has been mentioned so far.

Without rereading their ISO's to clarify my position (which I hope to do later) right now I'm looking at davesaz, Leon, Caesar for scum
Shit like this is why I cannot clear you Spiffeh...
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Post Post #4573 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 4568, The DEO wrote:Today, each player should draft new shit. Natural gains utility after massclaim. I said that like 5 times. Read my posts rather than just opposing them for oppositions sake.
Whatever

VOTE: Natural
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Post Post #4574 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 4555, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Vecna has no inherent read on the game, he just wagoned the leading bandwagon and backwards rationalized. Even Titus, was like "what are you doing" yesterday. Dude is scum, clear as day.
If you were so sure about this, why didnt you accept the 1v1 yesterday you blithering coward?

You were the one that ran away from a challenge.

Try as hard as you will now, but the one being inconsistent and flailing here is you.

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