Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

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we could just lynch gerry for kicks he's likely scum too

This is how I know you're town now, you have bad reads l0l

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do you seriously only tr me because of that?

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What do you think of Alisae right now? The fact that he was hesitant to join the Zach bw when i asked originally and then suddenly decided to

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Why are you so defensive? I clearly just said I think it's Zach and Kurur0 was who i think are maf

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I think you're the one being paranoid lol

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Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

Guy asked to hammer. I'm pretty sure scum would be conscious of a move like that.

Also Alisae's reactions to me are tipping him down the scale. His responses to me are like on a cycle.



I TR you because of the way your wagon came up.

You just happen to read me like shit.

You're townreading someone because they asked to hammer? LOL that's the worst reason i've ever seen. Mafia would do that too, that makes no sense to TR someone based off that.

Also, what about my wagon? What in particular. Because Elena and Alisae were wagoned at one point too.

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VOTE: Kuror0

Thank you for sheeping me @masons

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No stawp.
BTW let's point out that tomorrow is MYLO

ummm. what. why do you say there will be a tomorrow?

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ok. but its weird you said that after voting him, but w/e i agree this is mafia.

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dreal has bad reads rn lol

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he's literally upset we lynched mafia.

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me lacking confidence

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You must not know cloud either then. I already explained why he tried to buddy me day 1, and why he was gonna definitely try and buddy me or transcend and transcend already outed a TR on him

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UNVOTE: Kuror0

I will give him his weekend. still voting him though lol

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Clumsy, he's most likely mafia.

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I know why he kept you alive then :^)

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Nice partner slip

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I honestly think it's kuror0 based on what I said earlier or yesterday I don't remember which. Masons also wanted to lynch Elena instead of Zach yesterday.

Clumsy or dreal can you link me a scum game of kuro then? So I can try and compare

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Also let me know what you find Alisae

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Any scum game

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Preferably one you won or lasted a long time

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I have to go to dinner anyway.

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Only thing I can really see different is you posted less this game. Can you tell me in particular clumsy and dreal what you see town about him that's different from that game?

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I started to scum read Zach more. And more. I wanted him vigged instead of PV, but that didn't happen lol. And he started making bad vases. At first I thought it was Zach and Elena. Because even though I dont actually tr Alisae, I felt as though the gamma thing made it possible they werent teamed. Elena began ate a lot, so I figured it might be a mislynch because of it. So I figured Zach was the best vote which is why is tried to get you all to vote him. I was a bit weary of Alisae at first cause he wanted to lynch Elena and not Zach when he said he Sr both. But then I thought that you could also be teamed with him. Especially toward the end when you wouldn't lynch him despite scum reading him heavily. Based on interactions with Zach I also felt it was likely you could be teamed wit him.

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Would quote but I'm on mobile rn lol. Basically, also. My reads have been shit. Ever since transend flipped maf I threw my reads out the window. Like legit my bottom 4 day 1 were all pr. Lol. Mostly it's poe. Cloud did try and get me and Alisae to sheep his vote day 1 hard. I think it could have been a buddy attempt as well. Not sure tho. He can be random as scum.

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I don't look at old games I wasn't in, gerry.

Of course..

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inb4 Garrybote was scum with Cloudie and the whole Neighbor shit was all WIFOM.

masterminds

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Clumsy give me your thoughts please.

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Also Pine was in the vig pool, no way Cloud neighbors him lol

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Ffs. Where is clumsy, I wanna hear his reasonings for who he scum reads before I vote

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Right now I'm lynching in Alisae or Kuror0. I buy your ate from earlier. And I kinda think Alisae might have subtly slipped by saying "tomorrow is mylo" when he said he hard Sr kuro

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How did she fuck up?

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Dreal, which one do you think it is and why

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Dreal lol

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@gerry what are your thoughts so far? don't wait for clumsy, post your ideas first and let clumsy gauge everything and let us know his thoughts after everyone has posted theirs.

I already did lol. You didn't think the Mylo comment by Alisae could have been a slip?

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Same

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Guess who also the counter wagon to transcend was

Me.

hey me too!!!!!!!!

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Alisae, if we lynch Elena and she flips town then what?

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All this ate lol. Elena, do you really think he is faking this?

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Well he said he wants to vote her soo...

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God you guys posted a lot. I'll read and react after dinner

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Mining towncred?
Idunno.
Garrybote pretty much always scumreads me.

lies

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Ok I got sick of this joke.

VOTE: Alissae

My vote will be parked there till the day is over or someone can overwhelm me with reasons.

As an option I propose you guys lynch me and next day no matter who the fuck stays alive you lynch Alissae. I don't care what you think, what your reads are or anything once you lynch me and see me flipping town you are bind to lynch Alissae next day and we win the game. If for some reason Alissae flips town you will be the first player I will raise a lynch policy because I swear I have seen scum do more work for town than you have this game.

For someone so proud of 1 game you got on your sigs your reads have been bad, your stances have been against town objectives and your scum hunting was almost nonexistant if you take omgus and sheeping away you got shit, so I'm for real on this 1v1 lynch me first to know how serious I'm talking but those who vote for me will have to vote for Alissae next day no matter what.

What happened to waiting for Clumsy?

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no...you kill Jae because they can lie about being a 2 shot vig -_-

THis is true.

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What do you wanna talk about?

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I kinda think Elena is town, based on reactions and such. I would rather vote in you and Kuroro

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But who's willing to join me on a Gerry wagon?

LMFAO

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Kuror. I know you're town.
I was gambiting.
Unvote to hear Clums.

VOTE: Garrybote

So you just had me as 100% town. And now when he says he wants me wagoned i'm suddenly the best lynch

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Garrybote was hardbussing.

Why would I need to hard bus? I had the votes for Elena and I could have hopped on that. I literally drove votes off on Elena onto Zach when it wasn't needed.

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Garrybote was hardbussing.

Why would I need to hard bus? I had the votes for Elena and I could have hopped on that. I literally drove votes off on Elena onto Zach when it wasn't needed.

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I want to vote Alisae so bad, rn. But I won't hammer. Cause I know he's a sheep and does that as town.

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Not only was I neighbored by Cloud, I wanted to have Zach vigged instead of PV and asked vig to do so the night before. Why would I do that to be solo maf right there with 2 mislynches to give town? Why would I go out of my way to stop the Elena bw after I saw her ate and vote Zach and then beg for others to jump on the wagon? Basically if I was mafia I was doing things that I didn't need to do because the risk was to high

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I like the idea of me deciding vig shots, but I'd like a little input from everyone else too (taken with a grain of salt).

My list that I would like is [PeregrineV, Drealmerz7, and Zach].

take out pv imo

If we lynch Alisae I'd shoot Zach out of those.

I personally would love a dreal shot. but, pls follow the vig pool since he's confirmed town.

Gerry please. I just did. [Zach, PeregrineV, Transcend/Alisae]

Gerry/Zach/???

yes i want my partner vigged, you caught me

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You understand that BYF had me as his highest TR. there was no reason to try and neighbor me n1. And I showed you him trying to buddy me.

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Yes, I wanted Zach vigged. What's the point? The only case on me is "wifom" which can be made on anyone. Alisae I don't like how all of a sudden you just have me as scum when these same arguments were brought up earlier, you said i was town. Especially after "trying to figure out the game" and rereading over and over.

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LOL. How did I pocket him? I tried to lynch him. Now you're bullshiting.

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If you hopped on the Elena wagon that would make you really sus.

Also this is a lie, because the day before I said that Elena and Zach were likely maf together. SO I had a very probably cause and reason to vote Elena. I also voted Elena and said she could be mafia a few days ago. So again, that is another lie by you. You aren't doing any research you're just saying a bunch of bullshit.

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Also please, again, no hammers yet. Very important.

Garrybote you know what I love about this interaction? You're giving me my arguements as I go along

What arguments?

1.) You say that the Cloud thing was just one big wifom. It's not my fault that he decided to try and buddy me and try and neighbor me. You know me. Transcend and him are friends offsite, which is something that you acknowledged awhile ago. Transcend already stated he TR him, and he had no reason to try nd buddy him any higher. When he asked for his read on me, I said that I know he can do things like that as both alignments, so I couldn't give a read on him yet.

@trans @gerryboat my bois, sheep me for entertainement, this is just like kick-lynching someone

@gerryboat hello im pushing for a pine lynch

@gerry theres no way you buy that pr claim when he implied town could lynch him while gone

What are opinions on the following people:

CloudKicker
Pine
PeregrineV
Alisae
Jaack
Transcend

P-edit: Easy. Target has a PT or doesn't. They're either a:
-Mason
-Neighbor
-Mafia

Done.

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Cloud just subbed in and hasnt read, willing to give him a pass today

- Pine is lynchable
- PV Is a TR, find it weird how he just vanished tho. Also wanna see what cabd is talking about with this scum game comparison thing.
- Prefer not to lynch but, w/e
- Jaaack is lynchable
- Transcend is TR

i am pretty sure atm i gave enough content to be alignement read buddy

Lol, can you elaborate why is Manuel town.

i found it @gerry trans

@gerry im working on it

@yoshi by his banner he should be a good town player and this is not what i see

@dreal trust me reads and vote this with me, you saw what happened to mafia in our last game
@gerry you saw the internationnal mafia symbol, no reason not to sheep me
@trans i assume you should sheep me too cause you know i dont suck
@alis you said i should be town, so please sheep me here instead of going for lurkers

@elena @gerry @ ali lets all vote froggy

People I didn't claim a power role or mason, why are you beliving me?

i hate this post

i actually loved it

2. Your second argument is that I hard bussed, when I just proved that I wanted him vigged when it would have been suboptimal for me to do so. There is no reason to try and put that imput and I could have simply tried to make another vig shot. But, I'm the one who came up with saying Clumsy should be the one to make the vig shot list. And when asked for my opinion, based on previous game experience, I could tell that PV was town. I actually had a feeling he was PR lurking, which is why I kept TRing him, as he was active in the beginning and lurking towards the end of day. Which is another reason I was against a vig of him. You could also tell that Zach thought the best way for him not to get lynched was to try and appeal to me by saying i was being bad. He couldn't push on me because he knew that I was the one being the driving force behind the vote on him.

I'm not scumreading you because of that.
I want you dead because of PoE and potential associations.
That's good enough to get me by late game.
After all, I rolled over your ass in Large Normal 200

pedit: good.
And not important atm.

I'm talking about your made up scumread on kuror0





Gerry, you cannot be this dumb.

Alisae, You've to provide more logic to support your reasons for voting me or admit you would rather have others do the leg work on my wagon.

Or just admit it's really bullshit.

I'm sure Elena can't come up with a reason for me being scum that doesn't involve my actions against her in some way


And that is your wagon company. The person that was almost conf scum to you before I expressed a scumread on you, then everything 180'd. Gee, definitely not scummy. I'm pretty sure everyone else here is fucking blind.

Yes. I am definitely pulling this out of my ass.

You were also trying to fight back then and it was hilarious.

Yep. Really trying. Now explain the scum motivation in provoking you here concisely.

Gerry, you cannot be this dumb.

How am I being dumb? What exactly have you or your slot done townie at all?

Burden of proof is on the accuser.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

Guy asked to hammer. I'm pretty sure scum would be conscious of a move like that.

Also Alisae's reactions to me are tipping him down the scale. His responses to me are like on a cycle.



I TR you because of the way your wagon came up.

You just happen to read me like shit.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

Guy asked to hammer. I'm pretty sure scum would be conscious of a move like that.

Also Alisae's reactions to me are tipping him down the scale. His responses to me are like on a cycle.



I TR you because of the way your wagon came up.

You just happen to read me like shit.

You're townreading someone because they asked to hammer? LOL that's the worst reason i've ever seen. Mafia would do that too, that makes no sense to TR someone based off that.

Also, what about my wagon? What in particular. Because Elena and Alisae were wagoned at one point too.

Nonono I don't think scum kuror0* would say that based on what I've seen of him

3. You say that I tried to bring Elena to be an easy mislynch. Well, if she was an easy mislynch, why the fuck wouldnt i just lynch her then and go straight to mylo (where Kuroro wanted you all game, and dreal obviously said you or Elena was scum). Why drag the votes off of her and onto a scum partner? That makes no sense. Also, why would i appeal straight to you to try and get you to vote Zsch when you were so adamant about being on the Elena bw?

ok yeah him flipping BP made sense. Also, I realized that their plan for me was to have Transcend buddy me and have frogger and jaack try and get me lynched lol

Anyway, it's probably Elena and Zach. The kill on Jae instead of a mason makes me think it was zach who did it. I thought Kuroro was town earlier, but my reads have been shit this game. Can I also see why everyone TRs Alisae now? Is it cause of the Gamma and Alisae thing in the beginning?

Alisae, I'm asking her if she thinks Zach is confirmed scum, then who is more likely his partner. you or Kuroro

A NEAPOLITAN HAD A GUILTY ON YOU THEN!

VOTE: Transcend

yeah i was scum but I'll help you out

my team has a role cop and Elena Fisher is a 1-shot strongman

I don't think I've ever seen a town strongman so I think you know what this means

Toodles.

You beat me to it Alisae. Although, Transcend said Rolecop, when Frog was actually a Neapolitan... although that might be a small cover in case Frog needed to claim.

I'm fine with voting this I think. I do want to hear from Mick and Kuror0 first though.

There may be reasons to scumread Elena, but these are shit reasons to. Why would you take the word of a mafia who was confirmed lynched and would wifom anything.

I'm starting to think it could be Zach and one of Alisae or Kurur0.

Well I do know this for sure.
The rest of the scum is in {Zach, Elena, Garrybote, Kuror0}
I think it's Zach, Elena, Kuror0 lynched and town wins.

Oh wait yeah forgot about the nieghbor thing.

Yeah you're town imo.

Black Scum Jaack, Elena.
White scum Kuror0.

GG I won the game.

Then why not

VOTE: Zach

Garrybote.
Sheep me and get out of my way or you'll get run over.

>sheep you

I voted Zach first and tried to get you to vote him and you denied at first. why?

yes, children sheep me. @masons dreal. vote zach

These masons are useless is2g. If you think that Zach and Elena are teamed, why not just fking vote Zach?

I think it's Zach and Kuroro now. Kurur0 why do you TR Zach?

Please someone tell me what Zach or his slot has done town this entire game.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

I don't. I never said I did. At some point recently I said I saw Elena paired with either Zach or Alissae, that's why I wasn't pushing for Alissae and rather focus on Elena at that moment. And due to my vote I think I still hold that thought.

You had a town read on me but always said you had shitty reads this game so you didn't hold it that hight but now suddenly it is a scum read? That's a rather odd progression. Can you walk me through what changed that read?

My reads have been bad. I think objectively, the person who has been scummiest is Zach now that I take a look at everything. Alisae at least had the gamma interaction thing. Elena I kinda felt on the ate toward the end. It's more of I think Zach is mafia and I think he's more likely to be teamed with you.

I don't really buy the traitor thing, btw. Idk. If dreal was traitor with Zach, i think he'd be pushing harder toward a lynch towards Elena right now than he is.

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Nope. Alisae gets roped today for that bullshit.

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Alisae said Kuroro was town and then votes him when Clumsy says he went into today wanting to lynch him

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My thoughts:

Nope. Alisae gets roped today for that bullshit.

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VOTE: Alisae

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I'm VT. And clumsy it's up to you but personally I think it's kuro

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are you trying to pocket me?

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Just wait for clumsy. Lol

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Nah, you're not. Make your case for kuro. Kuro make your case for Elena. I'll be open minded, kuro

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Okay, just come back tomorrow. Hopefully clumsy gives insight by then. Elena I also want your case on kuro

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can you give me your thoughts right now?

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Are you seriously even considering me right now lol. He shot pv my hard tr instead of Zach when I told him to. If he listened to me, we probably save into a ml and win already.

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Okay kuro what's your case?

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Ok. Lol. We wait

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Bump

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Okay, hopefully I see something tomorrow

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bump. this is ded

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Wow there was a Pokémon game and I missed it. Sad.

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I'll read some parallels in a sec

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Clumsy what do you think?

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Elena, are you implying I might be maf?

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oh my god this game is so dead. can we get some discussion going?

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this should be good

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or not lol

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Yes, currently, which is why I'm waiting to see what Elena has to say.

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Elena, are you implying I might be maf?

You very well could be yes I don't know why you're not taking further charge in this it feels like you're just waiting for clum to place a vote I feel like as town you'd be taking more of a stance and I'm trying to wrap my head around Kuro linking a game and going like "Look at my meta I'm town!" If he was scum plus the on going game comment messed with me so I'm thinking a lot of stuff over

I clearly already said I scumread kuroro, so i dont see why you say that. I also said it's up to him because regardless if in the end i vote kuroro it's up to him to hammer. so why exactly do you scumread me again?

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Elena you realize i should be clear to you, yes? Odds are if i didnt push the lynch off of you, onto Zach. FYPOV You get lynched and then later Alisae would have been lynched after Zach flips scum and was tunneling you. So you saying that "i should tke more charge" as town, doesn't cut it at all.

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I have a gut feel that you're town. And it may be a bit of prebias that I had kuro and zach as the team.

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no mine

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pls talk more guys and gal

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So are you saying you scumread Elena but you're paranoid about me?

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Also, as I said, I didn't need to bus because Elena would have been lynched and Alisae as you see yesterday prob would have been next after Zach. Dreal hardscumread both elena and alisae

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Why exactly do you scumread elena? or is it just POE

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what are your thoughts on kuroro's other game and what do you think of Elena's reaction to it?

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Well you have to realize this is my first multiball setup where i actually knew what was happening. So this game is exciting to me.

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Also, Jaereed wasnt there for my epicmafia games that I can link that are forum games that i've been very excited as town. He's using a small sample size.

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Also in most of those games I was lynched day 1 or killed n1 as town. I usually have poor day 1's regardless of my alignment, which is shown in my first maf game

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Also in most of those games as town I was lynched day 1 or killed n1 as town. I usually have poor day 1's regardless of my alignment, which is shown in my first maf game

fixed

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So before Zach's obvscum posting I had this written out to post in twilight since I didn't want the person to unvote. Now I'm not as sure on it but I do still believe it's a tell. I'm spoilering it here, but take it with a grain of salt, obviously. My preference has actually changed to "on this flip lynch the fuck out of Zach". I might be omgus'ing though. After this town should be the driving force behind the lynches I think though.

he also clearly said that his opinion changed lol and to take it with a grain of salt.

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I already explained why that meta is a small sample size. I enjoy finding mafia as much as I enjoy being mafia. Day 1 is just a weak point for me in general.

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But I agree, we should try and hurry this game up. The longer you take, the more you will get paranoid or just sheep Jae so when it's wrong "it won't be your fault" lol. I gave you my opinion and right now we have a 50% chance of winning it's if you focus on those 2. I want Elena to make it clear who she scum reads. I don't want fence sitting.

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Sounds good.

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lmfao

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You can't seriously think I'm scum. I literally got mafia lynched and the other mafia neighbored me.

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Now I see why scum left you alive

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I already said I don't think it's Elena, I think it's kuror0

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Not only was I neighbored by Cloud, I wanted to have Zach vigged instead of PV and asked vig to do so the night before. Why would I do that to be solo maf right there with 2 mislynches to give town? Why would I go out of my way to stop the Elena bw after I saw her ate and vote Zach and then beg for others to jump on the wagon? Basically if I was mafia I was doing things that I didn't need to do because the risk was to high

I like the idea of me deciding vig shots, but I'd like a little input from everyone else too (taken with a grain of salt).

My list that I would like is [PeregrineV, Drealmerz7, and Zach].

take out pv imo

If we lynch Alisae I'd shoot Zach out of those.

I personally would love a dreal shot. but, pls follow the vig pool since he's confirmed town.

Gerry please. I just did. [Zach, PeregrineV, Transcend/Alisae]

Gerry/Zach/???

yes i want my partner vigged, you caught me

You understand that BYF had me as his highest TR. there was no reason to try and neighbor me n1. And I showed you him trying to buddy me.

Yes, I wanted Zach vigged. What's the point? The only case on me is "wifom" which can be made on anyone. Alisae I don't like how all of a sudden you just have me as scum when these same arguments were brought up earlier, you said i was town. Especially after "trying to figure out the game" and rereading over and over.

Also please, again, no hammers yet. Very important.

Garrybote you know what I love about this interaction? You're giving me my arguements as I go along

What arguments?

1.) You say that the Cloud thing was just one big wifom. It's not my fault that he decided to try and buddy me and try and neighbor me. You know me. Transcend and him are friends offsite, which is something that you acknowledged awhile ago. Transcend already stated he TR him, and he had no reason to try nd buddy him any higher. When he asked for his read on me, I said that I know he can do things like that as both alignments, so I couldn't give a read on him yet.

@trans @gerryboat my bois, sheep me for entertainement, this is just like kick-lynching someone

@gerryboat hello im pushing for a pine lynch

@gerry theres no way you buy that pr claim when he implied town could lynch him while gone

What are opinions on the following people:

CloudKicker
Pine
PeregrineV
Alisae
Jaack
Transcend

P-edit: Easy. Target has a PT or doesn't. They're either a:
-Mason
-Neighbor
-Mafia

Done.

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Cloud just subbed in and hasnt read, willing to give him a pass today

- Pine is lynchable
- PV Is a TR, find it weird how he just vanished tho. Also wanna see what cabd is talking about with this scum game comparison thing.
- Prefer not to lynch but, w/e
- Jaaack is lynchable
- Transcend is TR

i am pretty sure atm i gave enough content to be alignement read buddy

Lol, can you elaborate why is Manuel town.

i found it @gerry trans

@gerry im working on it

@yoshi by his banner he should be a good town player and this is not what i see

@dreal trust me reads and vote this with me, you saw what happened to mafia in our last game
@gerry you saw the internationnal mafia symbol, no reason not to sheep me
@trans i assume you should sheep me too cause you know i dont suck
@alis you said i should be town, so please sheep me here instead of going for lurkers

@elena @gerry @ ali lets all vote froggy

People I didn't claim a power role or mason, why are you beliving me?

i hate this post

i actually loved it

2. Your second argument is that I hard bussed, when I just proved that I wanted him vigged when it would have been suboptimal for me to do so. There is no reason to try and put that imput and I could have simply tried to make another vig shot. But, I'm the one who came up with saying Clumsy should be the one to make the vig shot list. And when asked for my opinion, based on previous game experience, I could tell that PV was town. I actually had a feeling he was PR lurking, which is why I kept TRing him, as he was active in the beginning and lurking towards the end of day. Which is another reason I was against a vig of him. You could also tell that Zach thought the best way for him not to get lynched was to try and appeal to me by saying i was being bad. He couldn't push on me because he knew that I was the one being the driving force behind the vote on him.

I'm not scumreading you because of that.
I want you dead because of PoE and potential associations.
That's good enough to get me by late game.
After all, I rolled over your ass in Large Normal 200

pedit: good.
And not important atm.

I'm talking about your made up scumread on kuror0





Gerry, you cannot be this dumb.

Alisae, You've to provide more logic to support your reasons for voting me or admit you would rather have others do the leg work on my wagon.

Or just admit it's really bullshit.

I'm sure Elena can't come up with a reason for me being scum that doesn't involve my actions against her in some way


And that is your wagon company. The person that was almost conf scum to you before I expressed a scumread on you, then everything 180'd. Gee, definitely not scummy. I'm pretty sure everyone else here is fucking blind.

Yes. I am definitely pulling this out of my ass.

You were also trying to fight back then and it was hilarious.

Yep. Really trying. Now explain the scum motivation in provoking you here concisely.

Gerry, you cannot be this dumb.

How am I being dumb? What exactly have you or your slot done townie at all?

Burden of proof is on the accuser.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

Guy asked to hammer. I'm pretty sure scum would be conscious of a move like that.

Also Alisae's reactions to me are tipping him down the scale. His responses to me are like on a cycle.



I TR you because of the way your wagon came up.

You just happen to read me like shit.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

Guy asked to hammer. I'm pretty sure scum would be conscious of a move like that.

Also Alisae's reactions to me are tipping him down the scale. His responses to me are like on a cycle.



I TR you because of the way your wagon came up.

You just happen to read me like shit.

You're townreading someone because they asked to hammer? LOL that's the worst reason i've ever seen. Mafia would do that too, that makes no sense to TR someone based off that.

Also, what about my wagon? What in particular. Because Elena and Alisae were wagoned at one point too.

Nonono I don't think scum kuror0* would say that based on what I've seen of him

3. You say that I tried to bring Elena to be an easy mislynch. Well, if she was an easy mislynch, why the fuck wouldnt i just lynch her then and go straight to mylo (where Kuroro wanted you all game, and dreal obviously said you or Elena was scum). Why drag the votes off of her and onto a scum partner? That makes no sense. Also, why would i appeal straight to you to try and get you to vote Zsch when you were so adamant about being on the Elena bw?

ok yeah him flipping BP made sense. Also, I realized that their plan for me was to have Transcend buddy me and have frogger and jaack try and get me lynched lol

Anyway, it's probably Elena and Zach. The kill on Jae instead of a mason makes me think it was zach who did it. I thought Kuroro was town earlier, but my reads have been shit this game. Can I also see why everyone TRs Alisae now? Is it cause of the Gamma and Alisae thing in the beginning?

Alisae, I'm asking her if she thinks Zach is confirmed scum, then who is more likely his partner. you or Kuroro

A NEAPOLITAN HAD A GUILTY ON YOU THEN!

VOTE: Transcend

yeah i was scum but I'll help you out

my team has a role cop and Elena Fisher is a 1-shot strongman

I don't think I've ever seen a town strongman so I think you know what this means

Toodles.

You beat me to it Alisae. Although, Transcend said Rolecop, when Frog was actually a Neapolitan... although that might be a small cover in case Frog needed to claim.

I'm fine with voting this I think. I do want to hear from Mick and Kuror0 first though.

There may be reasons to scumread Elena, but these are shit reasons to. Why would you take the word of a mafia who was confirmed lynched and would wifom anything.

I'm starting to think it could be Zach and one of Alisae or Kurur0.

Well I do know this for sure.
The rest of the scum is in {Zach, Elena, Garrybote, Kuror0}
I think it's Zach, Elena, Kuror0 lynched and town wins.

Oh wait yeah forgot about the nieghbor thing.

Yeah you're town imo.

Black Scum Jaack, Elena.
White scum Kuror0.

GG I won the game.

Then why not

VOTE: Zach

Garrybote.
Sheep me and get out of my way or you'll get run over.

>sheep you

I voted Zach first and tried to get you to vote him and you denied at first. why?

yes, children sheep me. @masons dreal. vote zach

These masons are useless is2g. If you think that Zach and Elena are teamed, why not just fking vote Zach?

I think it's Zach and Kuroro now. Kurur0 why do you TR Zach?

Please someone tell me what Zach or his slot has done town this entire game.

Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

I don't. I never said I did. At some point recently I said I saw Elena paired with either Zach or Alissae, that's why I wasn't pushing for Alissae and rather focus on Elena at that moment. And due to my vote I think I still hold that thought.

You had a town read on me but always said you had shitty reads this game so you didn't hold it that hight but now suddenly it is a scum read? That's a rather odd progression. Can you walk me through what changed that read?

My reads have been bad. I think objectively, the person who has been scummiest is Zach now that I take a look at everything. Alisae at least had the gamma interaction thing. Elena I kinda felt on the ate toward the end. It's more of I think Zach is mafia and I think he's more likely to be teamed with you.

I don't really buy the traitor thing, btw. Idk. If dreal was traitor with Zach, i think he'd be pushing harder toward a lynch towards Elena right now than he is.

I don't. I never said I did. At some point recently I said I saw Elena paired with either Zach or Alissae, that's why I wasn't pushing for Alissae and rather focus on Elena at that moment. And due to my vote I think I still hold that thought.

You had a town read on me but always said you had shitty reads this game so you didn't hold it that hight but now suddenly it is a scum read? That's a rather odd progression. Can you walk me through what changed that read?

My reads have been bad. I think objectively, the person who has been scummiest is Zach now that I take a look at everything. Alisae at least had the gamma interaction thing. Elena I kinda felt on the ate toward the end. It's more of I think Zach is mafia and I think he's more likely to be teamed with you.

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All there nd have been said already as to why i cant be mafia. and why i think kuro was most likely teamed with zach, which i wanted yesterday, until Alisae did whatever drug he was on

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your move. clumsy

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W.e I reread and I probably shouldn't be trusting elena's ate since she could fake that as scum. It's 50/50 anyway. VOTE: Elena

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You played well, sry for mishammer.

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Thanks all this game was a lot of fun, would play again. thanks scout for being a good mod!

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Funny thing I actually didnt know this game was multiball when I joined. Even my first post in black scum PT was "looks like 2 mafs lol"

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I'd like to /pre in for whatever your next game you mod, scout lol.

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s/o to cloud for the neighbor n1

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and then you scumtold right at the end by not voting, you did right to kill me, even if in dead PT I said my vote was on elena, if I'd be in the game I might have switched back to you, or of course I like to think I would have

I killed you cause i was scared one of the masons would be BP/mason lol