Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia [Game Over]

Vifam · Post Post #550 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:40 pm

If you wanted to know why Vax was voting Dunn why not just say I want to know why you're voting Dunn, why the need to pretend that you agree with him?

Not Chara wrote:why would i need to come off as non-threatening to Vax in the first place as scum?

To dissuade him from scumreading you maybe

Vifam · Post Post #551 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:41 pm

Guess who got the pagetop

Not Chara · Post Post #552 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:50 pm

In post 550, Vifam wrote:To dissuade him from scumreading you maybe

why would Vax scumread me for saying 'why are you voting Dunn'. that's the easiest, most justified, and most NAI question in mafia.

your paranoia is town but nothing about your reasoning isn't in the clouds.

Not Chara · Post Post #553 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:53 pm

i'll explain one more time, and after that i don't care.
i wanted Vax to respond immediately. not with a case. i wanted an immediate reason why he was voting Dunnstral.
my first thought on how to possibly make that happen was to pretend i was already close to voting Dunnstral. if Vax was scum, i thought he might take advantage of it/be more forthcoming.

it was spur of the moment. it wasn't a big deal.

Vifam · Post Post #554 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:57 pm

Scum get paranoid too, especially this early in the game where they can get potentially get tunneled at any moment for any reason, kinda like rn. There's no reason to think you weren't scum there trying to stay on someones safe side for a fleeting moment than realizing you didn't really have too

Papa Zito · Post Post #555 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 551, Vifam wrote:Guess who got the pagetop

very strong play

Not Chara · Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:03 pm

...and there's no reason to think i

am

scum for that for the same reason.
faking a read is risky. why would i need to fake a read to ingratiate myself to a scumread player, and then backtrack it and make up a reason? it's all so monumentally senseless.
you've even admitted i'm being wagoned for almost nothing. aren't you concerned with the players voting with you?

Vifam · Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:06 pm

ok maybe Im making a big deal out of it

PZ why are you voting Chara

Papa Zito · Post Post #558 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:12 pm

I didn't like 503.

Vifam · Post Post #559 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:21 pm

What do you not like about it

Papa Zito · Post Post #560 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:32 pm

Chara's only mention of Vax is the "I was hoping for a snappy response" which honestly doesn't make sense, and then the walkback we've been talking about. Prior to that post Vax makes a series of posts that I actually quite like so I can't imagine what would result in the super softball "could also vote Vax" when Chara'd spent what little energy's been put into the game on an entirely different set of people.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #561 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:42 pm

In post 545, Not Chara wrote:
In post 533, Vifam wrote:Like you could argue that he could have got something away from the original question but what did he have to gain by going lol nvm
i said it. i wanted an immediate response from Vax, but i didn't get one so the post became meaningless. i clarified i didn't want to lynch Dunn because i'm townreading him.

i said i might follow Vax onto Dunn to give the impression i was with Vax, not against them. it was a spur of the moment idea that didn't pan out due to Vax leaving thw thread at that time, or something.

how does not undwrstanding my motives make me scum? why as scum would i add that i wanted to lynch Dunn and then say that i didn't a post later?

This whole interaction seems like you were trying to frame me or something.

In post 548, Not Chara wrote:...for the purposes of seeing why Vax was voting Dunn. i really thought that was implied.
why would i need to come off as non-threatening to Vax in the first place as scum?

My reasons were in the post I voted, that was literally on top of your post: 275 276 277

In post 553, Not Chara wrote:i'll explain one more time, and after that i don't care.
i wanted Vax to respond immediately. not with a case. i wanted an immediate reason why he was voting Dunnstral.
my first thought on how to possibly make that happen was to pretend i was already close to voting Dunnstral. if Vax was scum, i thought he might take advantage of it/be more forthcoming.

it was spur of the moment. it wasn't a big deal.

I did.

VOTE: Not chara

Aj The Epic · Post Post #562 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:56 pm

Dude talk about FOTM voting...

Vaxkiller · Post Post #563 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:01 pm

I put my opinions out there. Your post is a little defensive of chara. How do you feel aboutit?

Vifam · Post Post #564 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:08 pm

In post 560, Papa Zito wrote:Chara's only mention of Vax is the "I was hoping for a snappy response" which honestly doesn't make sense, and then the walkback we've been talking about. Prior to that post Vax makes a series of posts that I actually quite like so I can't imagine what would result in the super softball "could also vote Vax" when Chara'd spent what little energy's been put into the game on an entirely different set of people.

This is a good point tbh

Fro99er · Post Post #565 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:40 pm

ok drunk frog coming in

Fro99er · Post Post #566 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:41 pm

In post 415, Aj The Epic wrote:Hello! I started reading yesterday as I was in the replacement queue. Finished page 11 this morning. Y'all need more wagons, but I think Chara's a pretty safe bet for town.

Why?

Fro99er · Post Post #567 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:43 pm

In post 419, Gammagooey wrote:Also @Aj- If you think we need more wagons why didn't you vote anyone?

Gamma can live today.

Not that I'm the decision maker but combine this post with AJ's entrance and certainly gamma/AJ aren't aligned together. This isn't a buddy interaction

Fro99er · Post Post #568 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:46 pm

Ok AJ explains in 427...reading

Fro99er · Post Post #569 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:49 pm

In post 427, Aj The Epic wrote:
Vifam wrote:Why are you townreading Chara
Enterance post in 257 is cool:

In post 257, Not Chara wrote:read up from yesterday.
Boonskiies feels like town. also has the best avatar in the thread right now. i voted Fro99er initially for his point about scum being concerned about flavour (because how does that translate to asking in thread? scum have google) but now i'm townreading him for it. go figure. :>
Brian's Malachite vote is terrible. 'nothing else interests me at this time'? he voted Malachite for completely NAI behaviour. i don't know if that makes him scum.
superhans wagon doesn't feel good either. i guess early wagons don't need a lot of reason, but it seems to be the go-to for a lot of players.
like Dunn's Brian vote, though. Peregrine voting Malachite too continues not to make sense to me.

VOTE: Brian Skies
could also vote GIF for now.
@Peregrine you realize I started reading this game before I was replaced in. Your vote was still bad, just because it's me saying it doesn't change that.

Obvious slight bias since Malachite is my slot, but malachite really didn't say anything and shouldn't really be a topic of interest for someone with no reads (aka Peregrine). As town, I'd expect him to move to a bigger wagon and try and manufacture reads off reactions. To me his actions make no sense.

In post 272, Not Chara wrote:Desperado's is bad because if Gamma was scum, there's no reason for him to 'forget' it was multiball. there's nothing strange about town forgetting that fact. it's like looking at something that is 'weird' (forgetting the multiball) and calling it scummy without actually putting thought into it.

Superhans, you're an enigma and i can't
make
myself scumread you.
Also a fine post imo. The reasoning behind it makes sense and I feel similarly (in Desp stretching slightly for that read).

Why do you see Chara as scum? I just checked through their iso and I know now that I've read all their posts in context. I don't see what inspired the votes.

Except he doesn't actually explain the read other than "the first post was cool" and "the reas Ning makes sense"

NEWS FUCKIJG FLASH. Scum can make sense.

This is not sorting alignment.

I'm gonna vote AJ I think. Still catching up

UNVOTE:

Fro99er · Post Post #570 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:50 pm

In post 433, Boonskiies wrote:Also, I want you all to look at the time stamps for those two posts. There is 1 minute in between, so Dunnstral obviously didn't have time to read the post, saw his name on the bottom with a vote, and went bad. Discrediting without doing anything. I rest my case.

Boon is town

Fro99er · Post Post #571 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:54 pm

In post 448, Vifam wrote:
In post 427, Aj The Epic wrote:Why do you see Chara as scum?

In post 335, Vifam wrote:NotChara forgetting about his ThinkBig read felt fake

Don't like how he asked Vax about his read on Dunn either

In post 456, Vifam wrote:I do agree that the readlist is kinda "lol he could be scum but idk" but that's not really that bad imo

In post 438, Desperado wrote:it's a garbage, garbage set of reads and i dont think town would have wasted that much time producing a reads list that means nothing

This line feels like you're just outright trying to discredit him

Pretty sure Vifam is town

Fro99er · Post Post #572 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:54 pm

In post 459, Vifam wrote:I don't really see any reason to townread PZ

Why not?

Fro99er · Post Post #573 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:55 pm

In post 463, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 458, Vifam wrote:Super/Frogger/Boon are all town I think idk about the rest of you
Talk to me about Froggy.

Ribbit

Fro99er · Post Post #574 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:56 pm

In post 465, Papa Zito wrote:Ok fair.

In post 469, Desperado wrote:
In post 456, Vifam wrote:This line feels like you're just outright trying to discredit him
i am stating facts

i suppose you could argue that he gives fro99er a serious read as well but other than those two, every other player is in limbo or hasn't posted enough.

So your take on Boon is most of his reads aren't serious?

Kay