And it's less about my hatred for Jaqen's posting and more about not synching with the non-kinkies to force the death onto a chosen target.
But I hate both.
Fuck me harder I can't take this sexiness.In post 498, podoboq wrote:In all fairness, mafia is a game about semantics and language, and you're insisting on destroying our standards of semantics and language. It makes it annoying to try to read.In post 496, Jaqen Hghar wrote:Really? This one is throwing poo on a man's game again just because you wish to not read in the second person?In post 492, dramonic wrote:That request from Jaqen without preparing the second round does show us what a quality player he is though.
This pings me really hard. Particularly, the "I have to play to win," reads LAMIST as fuck.In post 502, KuroiXHF wrote:I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.
LAMIST = Look at me, I'm so town.In post 504, KuroiXHF wrote:What does LAMIST mean?
My intrigue level is now over 9000 when it comes to who is lynched and how he chooses who gets the book. Interesting.In post 500, dramonic wrote:actually the permanent lovers count as 1playerslotso scum can't kill anyone tonight.
Sure. I don't scum read the two.In post 493, shos wrote:so uhIn post 379, KuroiXHF wrote:Those I town read (or at least null read):
podoboq
shos
Fresh
KuroiXHF
dramonic
RachMarie
Gorkington
All In
nn30
Probably too many, but they'll sort themselves out later.
expplain the top 2?
I don't recognize this username. Stupid question, but are you Radja?In post 486, All In wrote:Yeah I'm townreading Kuroi. His approach with Snarky reminded me of the "Pokemon: ep 6" game where he acted the same around Snarky and where he was town. He couldn't mention that before, but the game has finished now, so feel free to check that game yourself. I've modded a number of games Kuroi played in as both town and scum, so I'd like to think I can read Kuroi pretty well.In post 477, shos wrote:was this a joke or was it really intended for Kuroi? were you/are you townreading him?In post 267, All In wrote:All Alone?In post 234, KuroiXHF wrote:Fair enough. To be completely honest, the young link pic creeped me out and I probably should have checked on this in sign ups but I felt super uncomfortable about the prospect, even in game, of doing this to a minor.
So yeah - glad we got that squared away. I'm still leaning on tapping All Alone, but I want some more interaction.
nn, wanna chat with me? I'm not getting much from you.
You're my first choice out of everyone left too.
This is what you said, MoI:In post 467, MagnaofIllusion wrote:News flash – it is pointless to ask. I’m not making some big meta case on you Kuroi. Your play here stands on its own as scummy. I looked at a past common game as a sanity check, found that I didn’t see anything that contradicted my thoughts on your play here, and moved forward with calling out your scum play.In post 448, KuroiXHF wrote:You still haven't come up with the game. This is the biggest part of my issue with you. I've asked you to come up with a game, more than once. Over and over again and instead of giving me a simple answer, you're dancing around with me.
This is classic scum straw-manning – you are trying to establish that I’m not stating some game I’m suspecting you for bad reasons and basically ignoring the plethora of reasons stated in this very thread. Yet another reason you are my top scum read.
I’m honestly pissed as hell that Rach submarined the chance to arrange for you to be kicked out today thus giving your scummy self a chance to save yourself in the Second Chances coming soon.
Sure, it's not a case, but you think I'm scum and I want to know why. It's deceptive to the other players and right now, if you're town, it's confbiasing. I'm totally understanding I'm probably the scummiest person here (and I have a huge history of being mislynched as a result - see Mass Effect Mafia, Gistou Mafia, etc. for town roles where I've been lynched Day One).In post 312, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Kuroi I see as showing active scum posting. I have a game I want to go back and look at but right now he’d be the top of my “Adios suckers” list and the one I think stands the best chance of flipping scum.
You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?In post 510, KuroiXHF wrote:It's deceptive to the other players
Maybe yes. Maybe no. I mean, MoI is actually a seasoned veteran here and even if not - you'd think no one would click on the miracle dick-growing pills you'd see on the shady porn websites, but they make their money somehow.In post 511, dramonic wrote:You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?In post 510, KuroiXHF wrote:It's deceptive to the other players
Wisdom is not in this game.
right???????In post 503, podoboq wrote:This pings me really hard. Particularly, the "I have to play to win," reads LAMIST as fuck.In post 502, KuroiXHF wrote:I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.
Has nothing to do with activity in general. You being V/LA is expected. I’m just not really believing that the Shos who was so strident in Purge about planning and trying to crack the set-up is “stumped” by this one.In post 478, shos wrote:poor thing, you probably didn't notice I was vla did you <3
Ugh. First a terrible reason to Townread Kuroi (he did this as Town in a recent game … despite the fact that being a prima-donna about Snarky is absolutely not alignment indicative). And then a “I’ve modded Kuroi so I can read him”.In post 486, All In wrote:Yeah I'm townreading Kuroi. His approach with Snarky reminded me of the "Pokemon: ep 6" game where he acted the same around Snarky and where he was town. He couldn't mention that before, but the game has finished now, so feel free to check that game yourself. I've modded a number of games Kuroi played in as both town and scum, so I'd like to think I can read Kuroi pretty well.
From someone (falsely) claiming I’m not giving reasons why I am scum-reading you this is quite the cognitive dissonance …In post 502, KuroiXHF wrote:I scum read both Snarky and ThinkBig, but I think I'm just more pissed off at Snarky for being in this game when I told her I don't want to play with her, and I have to play to win.
I don't like this post. I don't remember, since it's been a while since i've played with Goofball, but these scattered and unsubstantiated posts are more annoying than helpful. Sure, it's probably gut, and this might be town, but this is really lame.In post 38, DrippingGoofball wrote:ThinkBig may be scum.
This is absolutely the exact same thing he just said was “Really lame” about DGB’s post – a gut, unsubstantiated read on Think with no backing. Cognitive Dissonance in action.In post 220, KuroiXHF wrote:Post 97 makes me begin scum reading ThinkBig, although that's just gut.
Here is another soft and unsubstantiated accusation. How is it not like Think’s usual play? Where are the link supporting the Town meta you infer he isn’t playing to?In post 326, KuroiXHF wrote:I agree as well. He's been dodgy and his high post count has been deceiving. It's unlike his usual play. A lot comes out from his mouth, but he's not really saying much.
I think he was addressing the players who aren’t inherently terrible Dram so you aren’t really included in his target audience.In post 511, dramonic wrote:You really think we'll listen to MoI's white noise?
I'm so glad we're gonna have to baby you through yet another game.In post 516, shos wrote:that quick survivalistic attempt at kinkying snowman is a hard scumtell for me on kuroi. if a mislynch happens, make that couple lovers, please.
And again – bullshit posturing. I’ve shared plenty of concrete thoughts and reasons why your play is scum motivated. Appealing to Repitition that I’m not isn’t going to work. Hell – as I just pointed out I’ve laid down ten times the amount of reasoning for my scum read on you than the support you’ve laid for your weak Snarky and Thinkbig reads.In post 510, KuroiXHF wrote:Sure, it's not a case, but you think I'm scum and I want to know why. It's deceptive to the other players and right now, if you're town, it's confbiasing. I'm totally understanding I'm probably the scummiest person here (and I have a huge history of being mislynched as a result - see Mass Effect Mafia, Gistou Mafia, etc. for town roles where I've been lynched Day One).
And there's no straw manning. I never said you've had a huge case you've been unwilling to share; I've said that you've been fucking around with me and dancing around with me.
If you don't want to respond, that's fine. Just say so.
My initial reason for seeing him as scum – the “Oh woe is me 6 Pages” was overdone given the content of those 6 pages and pointless posturing.In post 178, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Here’s my second early scum-read. 6 pages is not something that requires “Serious catching up” given that there is a ton of RP fluffery going on.
Again – I see this as indicating he isn’t actually developing reads (which scum don’t have to … they are the informed minority). His explanation actually doesn’t answer the question –In post 236, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 222, KuroiXHF wrote:Well here are those I'm considering giving the KuroiXXXHF:
Fresh
All In
nn30Why did you consider nn30 as “KuroiFuckable” in 222 if you aren’t getting enough from the slot?In post 234, KuroiXHF wrote:nn, wanna chat with me? I'm not getting much from you.
Why would you not have some reservations about someone you “aren’t getting enough from”? And note the bolded above directly contradicts the little reason he’s stated for scum-reading ThinkBig.In post 237, KuroiXHF wrote:I took out the people who I have reservations about on some level.I feel better scum-reading someone for something they've said that I don't like rather than scum-reading someone for inactivity. We just got past a weekend and game just began. Plus, effort isn't necessarily alignment indicative.
This is pretty concrete posting BTW – his posting in 228 read as pointlessly LAMIST given Snarky’s well known tendencies.In post 273, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I dislike 228 as I have huge doubts that Kuroi has never played or modded a game with SnarkySnowman. He has to know what to expect. This post has all the hallmarks of LAMIST, pointless lecturing. The only think giving me reservations is that Podo is quick to buddy up to him and Podo is still in my pool of scum.
Self explanatory.In post 273, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Nope. But that’s of course not the point. I find it is an easy refuge for scum these days to say “Whelp, I can’t read MoI” as a way to refuse to commit to read on me until it there is a popular opinion to follow.
To clarify since I wasn’t as explicit as in other posts – this post directed at DGB shows the exact opposite approach to how he attacking my posts about him. DGB is just saying he is scummy. Has done so twice. But he isn’t saying “Show why you think I am scummy … I didn’t come to dance I came to fuck” to DGB as he is with me. Nope – he’s going to “I’ll just ignore you”.In post 307, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Yeah, I’d be more than happy to have this be kicked from the Orgy today.In post 275, KuroiXHF wrote:Until you actually produce something worth reading, I'm going to just ignore you.
And another …In post 328, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Lol. This ticks boxes for discrediting (he’s just calling me scum for disagreeing with him when he doesn’t think Dram is scum) and fence-sitting (oh, maybe he’s just an asshole and maybe he’s scum) in one short post. Nice accomplishment!In post 323, KuroiXHF wrote:I think I've figured MoI out. If you disagree with him, you must be scum. I'm not quite sure if MoI is turning into an asshole, if he was, or if this is him being scum and deciding that's how he's going to play this game.
So plenty to chew on as to showing that Kuroi’s posts to me show not Town play but scum intent. Kind of hard to sell as “being too vague”, huh?In post 410, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Not buying this in the least. Anyone who has played any amount of games with Snarky knows that he’s “Neutral Useless” as any alignment. The fact that you are seem to be scum-reading him for every action he is taking is suspect and looks like you’ve found that “safe” scum read to pressure.In post 384, KuroiXHF wrote:podoboq, this is my first game with you, but you're going to have to trust me about Snarky. We have history.
Yet another specific reason I think you are scum. Pointed this out since you apparently need signposts from your earlier “It’s too general” posting.
Another reason the whole “I just can’t read him” falls flat … you saw me up close and personal as Mafia in your game and saw me as both Town and Scum in SirCakez’s DC Dual Universe game …In post 406, KuroiXHF wrote:Uhhh... I was actually the mod in the game, silly goose.In post 405, RachMarie wrote:he does not feel like he did in Princess Bride where he was scum
Read this, read 519, read this again and tell me that Kuroi isn't scum ...In post 520, KuroiXHF wrote:I've tried to read this, but I'm beginning to get legitimately frustrated (inb4 "AtE!!!!!111one11") so I'm taking the night off, or at least the night off responding to MoI, because it's so much easier to call me a liar than to simply answer my questions when you really got nothing.
Mathematically this absolutely cannot happen.In post 515, shos wrote:
@fresh - you are assuming we have only 1 dude lynched today. we need that to happen - if 2 die then scum can kill.
Sometimes I don't feel like MoI is even reading my posts anymore.In post 521, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Read this, read 519, read this again and tell me that Kuroi isn't scum ...In post 520, KuroiXHF wrote:I've tried to read this, but I'm beginning to get legitimately frustrated (inb4 "AtE!!!!!111one11") so I'm taking the night off, or at least the night off responding to MoI, because it's so much easier to call me a liar than to simply answer my questions when you really got nothing.