Micro 687: Vanilluxe Mafia - Mafia Victory!!!

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.4

Eddie Cane

(2): Eddie Cane 11, SweetBlueFlowers 19

GuiltyLion

(1): Sobolev Space 9

Bellaphant

(1): Fro99er 14

Fro99er

(1): Bellaphant 5

borkjerfkin

(1): TTTT 7

Sobolev Space

(1): GuiltyLion 8

Not Voting

(2): Lowell, borkjerfkin 49

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[Eddie Cane]

i was hoping SBF would've commented on whether or not her vote on you was in reaction to your self vote or if it was RVS

Since that doesn't seem to be coming, I also want to know how GulityLion was perceiving it when he made 26

I mean, it's a reaction. we just don't know how serious of a reaction.

and you have been contributing. you're a town lean for me.

[GuiltyLion]

Since that doesn't seem to be coming, I also want to know how GulityLion was perceiving it when he made 26

yah I mean that's why I asked, I couldn't tell if it was because of Eddie's self-vote or meant to be an RVS. I would guess it was a serious vote since it was naked but if that's the case I don't know why you wouldn't just explain it at the same time.

[Bellaphant]

i am curious as to how you differentiate how scum-me handles that on a townie vs on a buddy

i mean, i don't have meta or proof or anything, it's a gut response - but i feel like that was obvious anyway, so why as me?

sheep me please

do something useful please, kkthnx

Since that doesn't seem to be coming, I also want to know how GulityLion was perceiving it when he made 26

yah I mean that's why I asked, I couldn't tell if it was because of Eddie's self-vote or meant to be an RVS. I would guess it was a serious vote since it was naked but if that's the case I don't know why you wouldn't just explain it at the same time.

i actually understood the reaction.

[borkjerfkin]

i mean, i don't have meta or proof or anything, it's a gut response - but i feel like that was obvious anyway, so why as[k] me?

I reserve the right to ask about things I don't understand -- I didn't see why you were flagging my reaction (vote -> clarification -> unvote) as contingent on GL's alignment instead of just calling me scummy or towny or null, because GL didn't

do

anything there except clarify himself.

[Bellaphant]

i still don't think we're understanding each other.

i'm literally saying that whole sequence looks weird af betwen scum buddies. that's it.

[borkjerfkin]

i know what you're saying, i just am trying to understand your thought process

[Fro99er]

I'm back from a long weekend of doing stuff

will catch up tonight

[TTTT]

and you have been contributing. you're a town lean for me.

what exactly has Bork done to earn a tr that can't be easily faked by scum?

[Fro99er]

I thought it was pretty safe and NAI. I don't really townread her for it but I also didn't think it was worth pushing against you townreading her for it. I've only played one game with SS and I was scum so I don't really have any familiarity with her scumgame or how to read her, I was just poking her to start things off

basically my plan on dealing with S_S is if she's town she should probably recognize quickly that this is not my scumgame, so if she scumreads me then she's confirmed scum. If she townreads me then she could be either alignment still, but at least it'll be one fewer person to push a mislynch on me

If you've only played one game together, even though you were scum, why does SS scum reading you make SS confirmed scum? Is your scum/town meta that divisive that SS should pick up on it after only 1 game together?

[Fro99er]

For what it's worth I was planning on voting GL here like that ever since our last game ended. The vote on me/question to me had no bearing on my first post.

noted i guess, it fit as a response in context so i treated it as one

think bork is town. Scum probably could press here harder

[Fro99er]

you're straining the bounds of my credulity that you think because someone (who recently got snowed by you at that) just saw your scumgame that they'd never possibly roll town and legitimately misread you again; it instead sounds like posturing

oh hey

[Fro99er]

I mean duh it's illogical, it's meant to get more out of Sobolev and be cheeky. That's why I put a emoticon

[borkjerfkin]

Of all the reasons to townread me that is a fucking weird one

[Fro99er]

that was not at all clear to me

UNVOTE:

hmm

town paranoia or bork and GL are scum together. That was pretty quick to move off GL just for GL saying "emoticon"

[borkjerfkin]

Well hey at least between you and bella exactly one of you is right

Lol

[Fro99er]

Of all the reasons to townread me that is a fucking weird one

Yeah it is. I confused SS and GL in the post you were quoting there

[Fro99er]

....I have no idea what to make of all of that, apart from to say that probably isn't our scum team.

Bella, why not?

I think that's the perfect bus. It's exactly how KayP and I bussed in BEES D1.

[Fro99er]

seems too messy and pointless to have been faked/ scum-scum interaction.

explain

[Eddie Cane]

and you have been contributing. you're a town lean for me.

what exactly has Bork done to earn a tr that can't be easily faked by scum?

town read is different from town lean. it's early d1, strong reads are rare. I'll quote stuff in a sec on mobile and formatting is hard

[Fro99er]

Checking in on my vacation responding to quasi prod. On a foreign keyboard so I have no idea how to bracket. When I do Im voting bork for whining about inactives already. also because he´s scum. but mostly the first thing.

Why is whining about inactives scum? I thought it was more towny than anything. Wanting to get this game moving.

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: Sobolev Space

Hi Sobolev! I'm town this time, are you?

VOTE: GuiltyLion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

@GL: any thoughts on how SS responded to your Q or were just using this as an RVS opening

to me it seemed if she were scum she'd likely have focused on directly addressing the question in the latter part of the statement rather than focusing on paranoia wrt the former part
i'll admit i have fuckall else to go on in this game so far

VOTE: GuiltyLion

you're straining the bounds of my credulity that you think because someone (who recently got snowed by you at that) just saw your scumgame that they'd never possibly roll town and legitimately misread you again; it instead sounds like posturing

i ask how many games you played because people misread each other game after game after game and someone who's been on site and has played 40+ games should know that

p-edit: this one.

i am curious as to how you differentiate how scum-me handles that on a townie vs on a buddy

generating conversation actively. this game has been extremely slow so that's a plus. scum has no reason to start discussion when the game is at this pace, there's no reason for them to when everyone is around the null mark for the most part.

[borkjerfkin]

I would indeed expect a scumflip from me to indict rather than clear GL (if anything) for that really abortive interaction

[borkjerfkin]

But honestly i think GL is on the level with that explanation

[Eddie Cane]

Checking in on my vacation responding to quasi prod. On a foreign keyboard so I have no idea how to bracket. When I do Im voting bork for whining about inactives already. also because he´s scum. but mostly the first thing.

Why is whining about inactives scum? I thought it was more towny than anything. Wanting to get this game moving.

whining about inactives is a common scum tell. scum like to look like they're promoting discussion while not actually doing jack shit. I do it as either alignment as do many I know, it's obviously not a perfect tell, but nothing is.