Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[Fro99er]

I don't even know what you're talking about

[nancy]

1586

[Fro99er]

what's your point about 1586?

[Fro99er]

==> Vote Count 1.5 (FINAL) <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Given his name, it should come as no surprise that this was the most favored method of execution by Vlad the Impaler. In 15th century Romania; the victim was forced to sit on a sharp and thick pole. When the pole was then raised upright, the victim was left to slide down the pole with their own weight. It could take the victim 3 days to die using this method and it has been said that Vlad once did this to 20,000 people all while enjoying a meal.

[L-7]

Alisae -

[L-6]

Grendel - Cooperative Sheep,

[L-7]

Akarin -

[L-7]

Rautherdir -

[LYNCH ACHIEVED]

gerryoat - RadiantCowbells, Alisae, Grendel, Lil Uzi Vert, Transcend, JarJarDrinks, Vifam

[L-6]

JarJarDrinks - mattblackguy

[L-7]

Lil Uzi Vert -

[L-7]

Transcend -

[L-7]

Cooperative Sheep -

[L-7]

Keyser Söze -

[L-6]

Vifam - gerryoat

[L-7]

mattblackguy -

[L-7]

RadiantCowbells -

Waiting for their DOOM

- Akarin, Keyser Söze, Rautherdir

Day 1 ends NOW

Hey look at the last two votes on the Gerry wagon.

It should be between myself and Jar Jar as to who bussed

[nancy]

As in that's the Freudian slip

[nancy]

Btw I don't have to remind you RC because you read it but I do the same push on Town in my newbie game as I did here, I was just more sophisticated about here. Same attack of paranoia etc. when we land in a new day and my reads are off. And you know my scumgame sucks shit there's no way I could half the stuff I have here. Anyway I'm still going back over thread I'm just really lazy about it.

[nancy]

Actually I got fucking goosebumps when mbg claimed JK because I was like FUCK IT'S THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN. Anyway.

[Keyser Söze]

MBG claimed jailkeeper
RC claimed BP
Gerry was lynched as cop D1
Rauth is backup cop who has an innocent on RC

Jar Jar got lynched D2 as scum goon

I'm VT, Sheep is VT, Nancy is VT.

Other items of interest:

Rauth said he investigated Fro99er N2
MGB said he jailed Keyser N1 and Rauth N2
No NK on N2

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to think MBG is town.
I want to think Keyser is town.
I wnat to think Fro99er is town.
I want to think Rautherdir is town.

Nancy's in the middle I guess.
Grendel is also in the middle

Cooperative sheep I was townreading but idk.
Akarin slot I was townreading but I guess it could honestly go either way

LuV is a hard scumread.

[nancy]

Keyser LUV is clearly never going to post anything, let's just kill him.

[nancy]

I honestly can barely be fucked trying anymore.

I mainly looked at RC's deathtunnel Day 1 to see how people were interacting with it. Keyser was kind of acting as foil to the whole thing, critiquing both RC and gerry throughout without really taking a stance either way. RC I was going to ask you about your experience with scum!Keyser and how he usually interacts with this kind of thing. Sheep buddied up to RC and pushed his tunnel. Vifam disparaged it and buddied gerry. Grendel joined in without really interacting with it, he was giving some weird analysis of his own wagon. mbg kind of argued both sides of it but didn't exactly buddy up anywhere, and voted JJD. LUV joined without reasons.

I disliked Sheep's interactions there the most and that's the main basis for me sorting him as scum.

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser was kind of acting as foil to the whole thing, critiquing both RC and gerry throughout

without really taking a stance either way.

I did make a stance.
TvT.
I think my evaluation and read of both RC's play and gerryoat's behaviour was pretty much spot on.
Shall I quote you how I got to my D1 conclusion on their interactions?

Keyser LUV is clearly never going to post anything, let's just kill him.

I honestly can barely be fucked trying anymore.

Please stop this.
We have time.
We wait.
We are in control.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-03-01 19:45:00)

[Keyser Söze]

I did make a stance.

Looking back, I made a post-by-post analysis of every one of their 'emotional' interactions.
I even ruled them out as scum-partners.
Please do not miss-rep my D1 play.

[nancy]

Heh I thought 339 was a joke. By not taking a stance either way I mean that I didn't really feel like you tried to stop it or argue against one or side or the other. Calling it a TvT isn't really a stance unless I'm just using the wrong words.

[nancy]

I'm tired. I'm exhausted by other games. This game is at a standstill. I don't really know what I'm doing here. Sorry that I don't have your stamina.

[Keyser Söze]

Why would I take a side and actively push the lynch of a t/read?

That would be anti-town, illogical and down right scummy.

[Keyser Söze]

I tried to explain to RC Gerry's side of his argument.

I also tried to reason with Gerry if RC's actions were alignment indicative.

[Keyser Söze]

By not taking a stance either way I mean that I didn't really feel like you tried to stop it or argue against one or side or the other.

I disagree with your observation. I actively tried to understand their case on eachother (but supported neither scum-case).

Only Pine has the power to "stop" TvT fights.

[nancy]

Like where did you even defend gerry ever beyond a couple superficial posts with RC and telling people you read it as TvT?

[nancy]

So only scum-Gerryoat is allowed to scum read you?

I find your defense short sighted.

wtf Garrybote your reads are terrible right now.
Maybe you are scum.

Let's edit this for accuracy then:

"wtf Garrybote your scum read of me is terrible right now."

Ok, I didn't like RC's overreaction:

As in, RC implied that gerryoat was scum reading everyone for the same reason (meta reasons) but gerryoat had a different reason for each player.

Ali - over defensive
Grendel - meta
RC - trying to extend RVS

Your failure to see what I am trying to explain and why gerryoat is scum-reading you doesn't make us "idiots".

Moreover, no one is getting lynched on the grounds they want to lynch you.

If everyone carried that same threat it would be any orgy of OMGUS.

Claiming a cop role this early does not make your reads any more accurate as anyone else's. However it does ensure you are not lynched Day 1.

I agree that we are unlikely to have multiple cops and I would be suspect of anyone else who claims one. But obviously if someone actually is another cop variant they should not 'counterclaim' since I will be dying tonight anyway. I would lean town except for the fact that you are still not voting gerry and it feels like you might be scum with him waiting to see how the rest of the game reacts before you commit a vote to him.

I won't be joining a wagon on either of you or gerryoat because I don't believe in either case.

I am very confident that both of you are not in the same scum faction though. I cannot see any

long-term motivation

, because you're both unlikely to last the whole game now.

And that also explains his attitude towards being called Newb!Scum; he clearly cares more and tries harder and prides himself off of his scum play so being called newb here would probably bug him.

I usually town-lean that behaviour. I.e a player taking pride in his own scum-game and expressing hurt... viewing someone's critique of their game as a personal attack of their skill.


You are guilty of the same thing this game. That's why I'm resting my ballsack on TvT right now. I'm happy for the night phase to make the picture clearer too.

I am empathising with some of his reactions to your "roleclaim" / "newb scum case" / bringing up your own Greatest Hits - thus, I can't just help feel that gerryoats is in the same boat as me. I could imagine the frustration and shock he is experiencing.

Those are all the quotes I can find that represent anything like you defending gerry. They're all pretty weak and fmpov you didn't really give much of a shit if gerry died or lived. After the last quote above you just go back to looking at other players for the rest of the day until he's at L-2, at which point you don't defend him AT ALL.

When gerry is at L-2, here are your comments on the wagon:

gerryoat is L-2 I believe.

[Note: We need to be more conscious of the VC now as in the case of Grendel. No quickhammers please. Still lots of information to gather].

Even though I won't be joining the wagon I must admit it is the optimum info lynch based on the interactions so far this game.

No early hammer gentlemen.

If someone troll hammers and Gerry flips town I'm outta here.

I promise to give this game 48 hours more commitment.

If it remains an anti-town game it is a waste of my time and town's time.

I was disgusted with that hammer.

But that's not even what your ISO of that period looks like. I mean you're commenting on dogs and shit. Seriously, do you care if gerry dies here? Doesn't seem like it to me. Transcend calls 670 faux rage iirc and I don't blame him.

[nancy]

760*

[ThinkBig]

UNVOTE:

[ThinkBig]

Will be reading this when I get off of school.

@mod: does the scum team have day chat?

[nancy]

....

It would have been declared in pre-game....

[nancy]

Jfc what if neither Sheep nor LUV are scum here....