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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:21 pm

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In post 770, SensFan wrote:Are you fucking kidding me Ingeel? This is your first time realizing that Grey flipped his reads on me+others, despite it dominating the conversation today?
Right?
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:22 pm

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In post 771, SensFan wrote:Sorry, was responding to this but had to instead react to Ingeel's post.
In post 768, -Grey- wrote:I refer you to 728.
Do you mean 729?
No, because if I had said 729, you'd have asked why that happened and I'd have had to direct you to 728 anyway.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 774, Ingeel wrote:But if Grey is scum I'd gamble that MMM would be his buddy
Why aren't you helping me bus him then?

When scum is voting scum, it's much easier to lynch them.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 776, -Grey- wrote:
In post 771, SensFan wrote:Sorry, was responding to this but had to instead react to Ingeel's post.
In post 768, -Grey- wrote:I refer you to 728.
Do you mean 729?
No, because if I had said 729, you'd have asked why that happened and I'd have had to direct you to 728 anyway.
Heh. Cute. I like that.

Neither of the posts address me or Drixx directly unless I'm mistaken (which of course is possible). Should I surmise you feel similarly about all three of us?

Also (I could quote your previous post but I'm lazy) can you please explain what you see in Ingeel?
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:26 pm

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In post 778, SensFan wrote:Neither of the posts address me or Drixx directly unless I'm mistaken (which of course is possible). Should I surmise you feel similarly about all three of us?
728 is where I realize that Fire is right and I'm being a paranoid bastard, hence the repolarization of my reads.
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:28 pm

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And yeah, me softing an inno on Ingeel was pure bullshit that was based on my theory at the time that he'd have riddled me with bullets last night.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:29 pm

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In post 777, -Grey- wrote:
In post 774, Ingeel wrote:But if Grey is scum I'd gamble that MMM would be his buddy
Why aren't you helping me bus him then?

When scum is voting scum, it's much easier to lynch them.
Because him being scum is dependent on you. I'm not gonna do that
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:30 pm

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Convenient.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 pm

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VOTE: Ingeel

I'm seeing scum motive in Ingeel's play today on top of what he did yesterday.

Deciding to push a player softing an innocent on him reeks of scum motivation because they know the result is false. Town would accept the softed innocent because... it's right.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:35 pm

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In post 784, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Ingeel

I'm seeing scum motive in Ingeel's play today on top of what he did yesterday.

Deciding to push a player softing an innocent on him reeks of scum motivation because they know the result is false. Town would accept the softed innocent because... it's right.
Ah yes, when I believe someone is scum if X is scum I vote the dependent, not the independent. Absolutely brilliant
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:35 pm

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Oh Drixx~

Holla at your boy!
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:59 pm

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In post 784, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Ingeel

I'm seeing scum motive in Ingeel's play today on top of what he did yesterday.

Deciding to push a player softing an innocent on him reeks of scum motivation because they know the result is false. Town would accept the softed innocent because... it's right.
To play Devil's Advocate for a moment:
1) Assume he's Scum and you're softing an Innocent on you. What does he stand to gain to see you lynched or otherwise undermine the result? He knows you're not a Cop, and as long as you're alive people think he's clear.
2) We're talking about someone who missed that you flipped on your reads earlier. Is it that far outside the realm of possibility he didn't pick up on the softcrumb?
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:00 pm

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In post 787, SensFan wrote:
In post 784, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Ingeel

I'm seeing scum motive in Ingeel's play today on top of what he did yesterday.

Deciding to push a player softing an innocent on him reeks of scum motivation because they know the result is false. Town would accept the softed innocent because... it's right.
To play Devil's Advocate for a moment:
1) Assume he's Scum and you're softing an Innocent on you. What does he stand to gain to see you lynched or otherwise undermine the result? He knows you're not a Cop, and as long as you're alive people think he's clear.
2) We're talking about someone who missed that you flipped on your reads earlier. Is it that far outside the realm of possibility he didn't pick up on the softcrumb?
I never assume dumb scum.

Great way to lose.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:01 pm

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And before you ask, 2 dumb 2 scum is a similar trap.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:03 pm

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I'm not assuming dumb Scum.
I'm just saying that unless you disagree and think he's faking it (which I find unlikely), Ingeel is by his own admission not seeing/recalling everything too clearly. I think it's reasonable to think he may have also missed the crumb.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:04 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67031

Excellent example of why underestimating your enemy is deadly.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:06 pm

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I didn't miss the crumb, just so y'all know.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:08 pm

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Grey, I'm willing to talk to you on Fire's judgement, but not if you're going to spout off stuff like this again. You didn't answer either of my questions. You gotta work with me and we'll find common ground.

Ingeel, your claim is that you picked up on the crumb but missed the ENTIRE discussion of Grey's flipped reads?
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:12 pm

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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:14 pm

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Sens, I'm never going to be the towniest town that ever towned.

I kindly request that you come to terms with that.

I would think that you would be one of the few people in this game that could relate to that.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:16 pm

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I can relate to that. Trust me, I get it. I know you probably don't know me, but I'm very familiar with that.

I just ask that you not outwardly troll people like with that owl image. I'm not asking you for much, just bouncing ideas off of you. Those were the first two doubts that popped up in my mind when you posted your thing on Ingeel.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:23 pm

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How are those doubts coming along now?
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:31 pm

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In post 793, SensFan wrote:Grey, I'm willing to talk to you on Fire's judgement, but not if you're going to spout off stuff like this again. You didn't answer either of my questions. You gotta work with me and we'll find common ground.

Ingeel, your claim is that you picked up on the crumb but missed the ENTIRE discussion of Grey's flipped reads?
I didn't miss the discussion. I felt those minor changes had the tiniest semblance of logic. When I went back and saw the major flip(Strong town->strong scum) is what pinged me
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:32 pm

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Also to be completely fair that crumb was obvious to anyone with an eight of a cerebral cortex.

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