Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)
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A global voyeur just to catch a fakeclaim is so situational it just seems pointless to me to include it in the town for that reason alone.
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That's the only reason town would need it but it's a good reason. I don't think it's situational, I think it's somewhat likely scum would have to make up a role and get caught with it.
Even if scum could get their own track results, it would still be hard to use the global voyeur since you wouldn't be able to connect the track result to the power role.-
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RagingSpammers Goon
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It still really just doesn't make sense to me why it's town aligned. I see it being way more likely to be scum aligned.
Also you have to remember it was conditional, the condition being Spyro had to still be alive.
Why does town global voyuer need to have that condition on it?
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RagingSpammers Goon
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If Scum was caught fakeclaimed they get lynched!
They're dealt with! Done! They die!
The conditional here makes more sense for scum because it makes scum think twice if they want to kill THE FUCKING VIG.
In TBD Mafia I was a Watcher and when we massclaimed I claimed and I got instantly lynched that day.
For some reason people think watcher claims are fake.
I really do not think that's the case here.
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Incorrect. Scum-Flubber has no reason to watch Lane 2 nights in a row.In post 2494, Infinity 324 wrote: @massive Just because flubber' sorry makes sense doesn't mean he's town...his play makes just as much sense as scum watcher.
Also, why does scum-Flubber watch Lane N1 knowing that Cakez is going to visit him?
It's not. Flubber correctly identified my target N2.In post 2531, RagingSpammers wrote: For some reason people think watcher claims are fake.
I really do not think that's the case here."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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Fair enough, but I feel like he'd do that to get towncred and find protectives. In a role madness he needs to have s believable fakeclaim.In post 2533, massive wrote:Incorrect. Scum-Flubber has no reason to watch Lane 2 nights in a row.
Also, why does scum-Flubber watch Lane N1 knowing that Cakez is going to visit him?-
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Remind me again of your night choices?In post 2349, Infinity 324 wrote:If we're not lynching flubber, we should be lynching in aella and me today because it's very unlikely town has odd- and even-night rbs, conditional BP, doc giver, and commuter"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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I'm just saying -- if you want to critique Flubber because he needs to have a "believable role claim" -- yours is objectively worse. I only point this out because it's unlikely you'll get me to vote Flubber, especially based on this.
I assume you're talking about the "global voyeur is useful for scum" theory? I think it has holes which it feels like we've mostly gone over (starting with "you can't necessarily pair it with tracker results since scum won't automatically have access to it") and I think the role itself is NAI. Role Madness games always seem to have roles that are just "there" so everyone has a role without it impacting the game too much -- fruit vendor, etc. RC's messenger. I think the global voyeur isn't necessarily helpful to either side; if anything, it might be negative utility if it's scum simply because I likely come up as "miscellaneous" even though it's probably critical for scum to kill me.
I also think it's probably important to note that Leonshade confirmed that Flubber used the doc shot I gave him N2, since that's probably the only "protective" ability in the game. That might be an important thing that I haven't thought completely through."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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In order for Spammers to be town, YOU have to be scum. I don't seehow Flubber or Leon are scum. Convince me?"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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At this point in time it seems we ALL agree that Not_Mafia is, at the very least, uh, NOT Not Mafia. Consensus lynch?"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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Yes.In post 2521, RagingSpammers wrote:
There you go!In post 2520, Infinity 324 wrote:I can imagine a scenario where cakez could justify giving it to a scumbuddy
Cakez can do it.
And it could be justified.
Done.
BTW@MOD if it wasn't clear, the Alisae head would take over
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