Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:06 am

In post 2793, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The problem is that scum can opt to no kill and leave us in the same position we're in now.

Do you think scum wouldn't target any of the town PR's?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:20 am

In post 2800, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 2793, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The problem is that scum can opt to no kill and leave us in the same position we're in now.
Do you think scum wouldn't target any of the town PR's?

Honestly have no idea.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:32 am

Do you think 'scum' believe your investigative power is a threat?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:35 am

Keyser, you're asking questions that I think you know I don't have the answer too.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:35 am

In post 2803, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Keyser, you're asking questions that I think you know I don't have the answer to.

EBWOP.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:40 am

In post 2505, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:MBG is the obvious scum RC. It's either that or the meta has changed where town just gets a whole bunch of PRs.

Please tell me more about this.

"Obvious scum" via meta analysis.

Fro99er · Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:41 am

Keyser that should be obvious.

We can't have those 5 town PRs unless site meta has changed to make town OP. It's unlikely Rauth is scum, and so it's either Uzi or MBG. By POE from Uzi's POV it's MBG.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:43 am

In post 2805, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 2505, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:MBG is the obvious scum RC. It's either that or the meta has changed where town just gets a whole bunch of PRs.
Please tell me more about this.

"Obvious scum" via meta analysis.

I've never played with Matt prior to this. I find him obvious scum for the reasons I stated before and because I don't buy his jail keeper claim.

ThinkBig · Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:43 am

In post 2806, Fro99er wrote:Keyser that should be obvious.

We can't have those 5 town PRs unless site meta has changed to make town OP. It's unlikely Rauth is scum, and so it's either Uzi or MBG. By POE from Uzi's POV it's MBG.

I agree that it is impossible to have 5 PRs. If MBG flips town, we lynch LUV tomorrow. No questions asked. The question is who is the better lynch?

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:46 am

In post 2803, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Keyser, you're asking questions that I think you know I don't have the answer too.

It's a simple question. It's not a trick question.

E.g if I was an investigative PR, I know scum would not want me in the picture as I could confirm player movements.

Moreover, if I was in the shoes of scum I wouldn't want any PR alive who can investigate an innocent/guilty on players, a player who can jail both town and scum, nor a player who can confirm whether there was movement on a VT/passive PR player.

Now tell me, do you think scum would choose to keep all those PR's alive?

mattblackguy · Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:47 am

In post 2807, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2805, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 2505, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:MBG is the obvious scum RC. It's either that or the meta has changed where town just gets a whole bunch of PRs.
Please tell me more about this.

"Obvious scum" via meta analysis.
I've never played with Matt prior to this. I find him obvious scum for the reasons I stated before and because I don't buy his jail keeper claim.

What? We played in Normal 1874. Remember you tunneled lucca for no reason and then replaced out because no one was joining u on ur tunnel?

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:48 am

In post 2807, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2805, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 2505, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:MBG is the obvious scum RC. It's either that or the meta has changed where town just gets a whole bunch of PRs.
Please tell me more about this.

"Obvious scum" via meta analysis.
I've never played with Matt prior to this. I find him obvious scum for the reasons I stated before and because I don't buy his jail keeper claim.

Sorry I misunderstood that, yes SITE meta. I read it as Matt-meta at first.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:50 am

Thanks fro99er, I see that now (I miss-read the "meta" comment).

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:51 am

@Keyser: I'm saying I don't have an answer because I don't have enough experience with this player list. I'm not sure what each individual would do in this position as scum. I'm going to lean that they wouldn't though.

@Matt: I replaced out so it wasn't a completed game. I also don't understand how you expect me to remember your meta in a game I replaced out of on Day 1 because of disinterest.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:52 am

@MGB

In post 2769, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 2603, Keyser Söze wrote:@matt - did you answer these two questions?
In post 2308, Keyser Söze wrote:Yes, I understand why you were s/reading me D2 (despite not agreeing with it).

But my concern was the discrepancy of your changed read of me.
Why were you t/leaning me D1 then?
Why didn't you jailkeep one of your two strongest t/reads (Alisae / Grendel)?
@MGB

Tell me why you were t/leaning me D1.

Tell me why you didn't jail your two strongest t/reads.

Fro99er · Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:01 am

Oh, Matt's avoiding the question from keyser, who is a town read of Matt's

I'm shocked.

mattblackguy · Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:02 am

Yeah me too

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:09 am

In post 2293, mattblackguy wrote:@Keyser, End of day 1 you were a townlean for me. I didn't read over your ISO more until after Vifam said you were a strong townread. And when I said you could be scum because you didn't try to counter Gerry wagon by creating a wagon of one of your scumreads (after the Grendel wagon collapsed), it was what I was honestly thinking at the time.

So you read my ISO in under 13 minutes?

After Vifam called me a strong town read you made this comment JUST after:

In post 793, mattblackguy wrote:Why is Keyser a strong townread? I can see him as scum.

You're going to have to explain the time scale of when I went from town to scum.

From 'I'm gonna jail my town read tonight' to 'what a scummy bastard'.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:17 am

In post 2815, Fro99er wrote:Oh, Matt's avoiding the question from keyser, who is a town read of Matt's

I'm shocked.

I'm not going to re-quote it again, promise.

I'll likely just lose patience and re-vote him.

mattblackguy · Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:20 am

I lost my patience for this town a long time ago.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:23 am

Please answer the question

The majority want you dead.

Play the game, not the players.

If I'm an idiot for not t/reading you, tell me why.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:38 am

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:48 am

mattblackguy · Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:57 am

Cooperative Sheep · Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 am

Are you giving up scum or giving up town?
Keyser is being aggressive, but he's asking generally pointed, clear, and reasonable questions.

If you are just kind of going 'meh, I'mma for the noose no matter what' (which I kinda agree that you are) could you at least, if town, toss out some last reads/thoughts and, if scum, fake some for WIFOM giggles?