BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[Voices of Truth]

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Vote SAD

Hey, I had gut from the early posting but nothing I could hang my hat on.

Then, they began posting off in the hood when I suggested wagoning SAD. They said essentially "don't bother, they'll get townread". Yet, they didn't appear to be SRing SAD.

We pressured more on that by asking who we should shoot if we had a Desperado. They said someone in the hood, so Vifam. (Around 4 pm yesterday) They never justified this. They had issues with BYF too, so a PoE to

In 416 through their next chain in public, they complain about being run up for playful and deflect hard core. They pushed one scum in the hood since the start (and I let my hydra partner run with that), and have been attacking the hood almost exclusively.

This is why neighborhoods suck

It seems like hood reasons are primarily why R&R is being wagoned and I'm not going to put my faith into something I can't evaluate myself

I don't think attacking your hood exclusively is all that scummy. I don't think it'd be out of the ordinary for a town!newer player to get frustrated and lash out against the people that are scum reading them if they think they're being pushed for bad reasons.

R&R calling out that there are scum on their wagon seemed town to me, especially since I generally default to that same reasoning if I believe the pushes on me are unwarranted.

It's the complete inconsistency.

They scumread BYF, but would have me desperado Vifam. Yet, they argue only one scum in the hood? You can evaluate what I said the contents of the hood were.

No one's disputing my comment about Rem saying SAD should not be wagoned because SAD would get townreads.

No one's disputing that Rem wanted a Desperado shot on Vifam based on hood PoE but scumread BYF allegedly.

No one's disputing Rem's deflections and strawmanning of pushing against her.

If no one disputes a statement about hood activities, and they can, it's generally ok to use them.

SAD and Rem have called each other scum most of the game, but never voted each other.

SAD also reminds me of SirCakez in Steven Universe 2.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah that reminds me.

What has Vecna done in the Neighborhood? @Creature.

[Voices of Truth]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, sure.

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@ObvTitus

If I gave you a compulsive Desperado shot right now, who would you shoot? Why?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, sure.

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@ObvTitus

If I gave you a compulsive Desperado shot right now, who would you shoot? Why?

>-----------------|> Vecna / RR
RR because of their OMGUSy reaction to my sheep
Vecna coz i got scum vibes from their post against Majiffy.

[Sakura Hana]

You can literally find those 2 explanations on my ISO, dunno what the point of that was.

[Spiffeh]

Gorkington

SAD has claimed to not be moving off of Titus today

All the while he's been finding everything under the sun about ME that he can paint as scummy and hasn't justified the Titus scum read at all

Does this not bother you

Along with everything else I've pointed out about him?

[Voices of Truth]

You can literally find those 2 explanations on my ISO, dunno what the point of that was.

I want only one name.

[Spiffeh]

There's several things missing from SAD DEFCON than SAD here, but that doesn't make him scum.
I am more concerned that he seems bent on more posturing than pushing, but posturing is a go to for him regardless of alignment I think.

-Rick

This is a good post

[Sakura Hana]

You can literally find those 2 explanations on my ISO, dunno what the point of that was.

I want only one name.

Then look at my vote.

[Sakura Hana]

But in case you're lazy, RR.

[Spiffeh]

Yeah Spiffeh, I am not lynching SAD today unless Maria strongarms me.
Still want Creature.

-Rick (Fire)

I was in complete agreement with you like 10 posts ago and then you pull this 180 out of nowhere

What changed?

[Creature]

I won't oppose the wagons on my townreads so much.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah that reminds me.

What has Vecna done in the Neighborhood? @Creature.

[Creature]

Some of my townreads are guts and I've extended my list to full no paranoia mode.

[Rem and Ram]

Creature umm...
Why?
-Ali

[Rick and Andrea]

Yeah Spiffeh, I am not lynching SAD today unless Maria strongarms me.
Still want Creature.

-Rick (Fire)

I was in complete agreement with you like 10 posts ago and then you pull this 180 out of nowhere

What changed?

Creature is more scummy to me and I want to give SAD more of a chance to show me colors.

[Creature]

idk, it seems like he's not trying to look town so much.

[Rem and Ram]

That's about the "I won't oppose wagons on my townreads part."
I mean saying you're scum would make that line acceptable (And I do think you are scum).
-Ali

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

SAD and Rem have called each other scum most of the game, but never voted each other.

Lol what.

All the while he's been finding everything under the sun about ME that he can paint as scummy

and hasn't justified the Titus scum read at all

Lol what.

[MagnaofIllusion]

the hood is me, bee, SAD, kuror0 and spiffy unless there's some mysterious player in there.

Neighborhood Make-Up

MoI, Vecna, Creature, Marquis
Firebringer, (imputed to include Majiffy, Stephen Q, Gorkington)
VoT, Rem and Ram, BigYoshiFan, Vifam
Sakura, Beeboy, SAD, kuror0, Spiffeh

@Spiffeh

– read 714 and tell me that isn’t Town Gork …

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How many people would support a vecna wagon right now?

-Rick

Who has two thumbs and would do this? This guy!

@Rick

– had Majiffy posted in the PT before today?

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I want to sort RA, Beeboy, Sakura, Vecna, MOI.

Ok .. what are you doing to accomplish this (with me at least)?

@MOI- 357 was ThinkBig

Your point? Finding that speculation scummy is completely divorced from the head that posted it.

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iuno.
i kind of feel like im falling into a dumb trap that ive been falling into a lot recently of defending people against pushes i feel are too strong while not actually being all that great of a resource on the target in question.
like, i think back to defcon and it occurs to me that im probably just hipshooting my feelings about how lynchable he is as town based on what happened there.

like, here it feels like he looks at a post, feels like its scummy and then decides on reasoning to justify that feeling and that process of deciding on reasoning doesnt really line up with where the feeling is actually coming from.
but if i reach back to my memory of his towngame in defcon, then i honestly just remember him being abrasive and not agreeing with his reasoning for reads at all.

Probably a good idea to refresh on Defcon for him I don’t see the abrasiveness here. Much more “look how cool and collected I am” posting. But let me also point out 664 – that post is a perfect example of both “forcing casualness” and playing to the current site meta of “Too scummy for scum”

Rem and Ram

– In light of Ali’s play in Spyro what do you think of 664?

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But let's be real is there ever a time when I didn't scumread MoI we are just not compatible people at least in the way we approach the game so this might be one of his crazy thinking style.

This calls for a live shot of SAD when you posted this ..

But anyway I'm not in the mood to get dragged with you in a back and forth in yet another game b/c it's such a waste of time always so keep on keeping on buddy.

Pedit @MoI

This post is from the standpoint that he knows I am Town and is trying to leverage Defcon where we mutually scum-read each other as Town to discredit my read on him and thus scummy.

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Also i will refrain from posting in the hood during the day for the most part, unless i have strong reasons to townread everyone there.

What Town motivation do you have to not post and hunt for scum in your PT?

[Voices of Truth]

Creature umm...
Why?
-Ali

Insulate: Rem and Ram

Hint, that means someone's going to the graveyard.

[Creature]

I'd not mind to wagon some of my townreads as it could help me solidify my townread on them even more.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

P sure I have more posts and stronger push on Titus than you you aren't special buddy just b/c I have a scumread on you. And Voices is in another world if she thinks my Rem scumread is strong at all. I have said in at least 3 instances it was a very weak scumread, and that I also liked some of their other things they did, AND that I hate the wagon. Why the fuck would I get on a wagon that I think is garbage.

[Creature]

Yay Desperado

[Gorkington]

Gorkington

SAD has claimed to not be moving off of Titus today

All the while he's been finding everything under the sun about ME that he can paint as scummy and hasn't justified the Titus scum read at all

Does this not bother you

Along with everything else I've pointed out about him?

his read on you is pretty terrible.
thats probably the only thing thats resonating with me.

we could talk it out, but i dont really think itll be productive right now.