Mini 1887 - Oddrole Mafia (Game over)

[alban]

@Mod

[PimHel]

Nope, so you can answer my question

[alban]

@Alban
have you ever seen such an early claim before?

Vote Dwlee99

Just to re-confirm my awesome vote

P.S. Jaack deserves votes as well

As a serious claim, never this early. In jest, yes.

[PimHel]

Then this weak wagon can now disband. Your post was good for a wagon to get out of the RVS, but not to get this close to a lynch.

[alban]

He's throwing shade because he isn't pointing out anything actually scummy or scumhunting. Here's the difference.

Alban said

No, he isn't. He is posturing.

Now, if he maybe expanded on that or explained his reasoning for believing prana was posturing, that would

not

be "throwing shade."
Instead he has just said 'No, they're posturing' which doesn't explain

anything

.

In addition, here is his post where he votes me

'Like' being the operative word. Conjecture.
I didn't feel any pressure. So there's no question about alleviating it.
Your arguments are quite juvenile.
VOTE: dwlee

He calls my arguments juvenile, doesn't say why they are juvenile, and then votes me cause.. why? And if you'll notice he's doing this to the main pushers of his wagon (you and me) to discredit us and alleviate pressure on his slot. That is why it is "throwing shade" as opposed to scumhunting.

Your case on me is increasing in volume every time I post something. Whatever I am saying, you are adding it to your explanation of why I am scum. But when you voted for me, you had absolutely no reason. Now justifying your vote via a post-facto analysis of my posts that came after your vote, is scummy as hell.

But still, let's go through your accusations one by one.
I am not pointing out anything scummy:
If you see, it's still second calendar day and page 8. I am not from the instant-coffee and noodles generation. Moreover, some of us aren't presumptuous. We give people leeway of a few more pages than passing judgements on 2nd page of the game regarding their alignment.

I am throwing shade:
I said what I thought. That post by Prana didn't seem genuine.

I didn't explain my read about Prana's post:
Sometimes thoughts are intangible. Not everything can be expressed or explained from what goes on in your mind when you read something

Your vote on me is coz I don't explain stuff usually, including my vote on you:
Let's see how many on my wagon have given explantions.

Let's build a wagon on him.

VOTE: alban

Nah.

VOTE: alban

vote: alban

yeah you sure are

VOTE: alban

happy scumday btw

VOTE: Alban
I was stretching a bit with mcmenno to get some reactions and reads but what town with two years of experience asks if we are out of rvs.

alban is scum
VOTE: alban

vote: alban

VOTE: alban

Your vote on me and trying everything to turn the town against me is bloody opportunistic. This is why my vote is still on you.

[eagerSnake]

Jaack has been killed!
Jaack was a

Doctor (town).

Hello!

You are a

Doctor (town)

.

You can protect other players from kills. Each protection stops one kill, and lasts for one night. Actions: protect

You win when all the bad guys are gone.

You have (expired on 2017-02-27 22:00:00) to confirm your role by replying to me with your Role and Alignment.

Good luck!

Game Thread

[eagerSnake]

VC 1.03

Votes reset!

Not Voting (12): McMenno, Not_Mafia, randomidget, PimHel, Socrates, Börk Börk, aronagrundy, PranaDevil, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, alban, bangthemafia, Dwlee99

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 votes to lynch!

The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-13 22:00:00).

[McMenno]

a dayvig huh

nice nice

[McMenno]

I bet it was gin n tonic he's online now

[PimHel]

a dayvig huh

nice nice

I bet it was gin n tonic he's online now

Possibly dagvig.
But bad second post.

P.S.

Vote Dwlee99

[McMenno]

Am I not lynched yet?

what a shame huh

VOTE: alban

[alban]

Am I not lynched yet?

what a shame huh

VOTE: alban

One more vote without explanation.
Dwlee, maybe you will behave righteous once again and take him to task as you did with me? You are a rising star, after all.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: alban

[Randomnamechange]

you're too lazy for that

well fuck you then

You're just throwing shade at people

Going to say this every game for the forseeable I see.

"Throwing shade" is not a thing, and is utterly shit. Unless we are living in Ankh Morpork, on The Discworld, there are no shades to be seen nor heard.

alright i am never voting prada due to this post

VOTE: alban

[Börk Börk]

VOTE: alban

[Dwlee99]

I did have a reason when I voted you, it is in the post where I voted. My case grows against you, yes, but it isnt post-facto reasoning.
Your repeated attempts to paint me as scummy with silly arguments is the main reason Im scumreading you. especially since it is a pushback from my push on you.

[PranaDevil]

prada

I'm also not a fashion accessory store.

Is it just me or has nothing actually happened this game, and yet somehow a supposed "day vig" decided to fire? There are two theories in my mind as to why this happened, one is that said Vig is scum, the other I'm keeping hidden until later to bring up during claiming points/late game arguments, because if I spill the beans now, it will be too easy to WIFOM the response.

What I do know, if this game has gotten off to a standing stop. We have done absolutely sod all progress by the majority, it actually feels like we're still in RVS, despite the fact a wagon got to seemingly lynch position, and nobody seemed to bat an eye (including myself, so I gave myself a talking to, answered back, and now I've given myself corner time for being cheeky...), and we have lost a town doctor now, and again... nobody seems worried that the town doc has just gone through all this.

So... let's get some legitimate questions out there for everyone. (I will respond myself later, but not before others have replied, so as to not allow scum to sheep my reasoning)

1 - Everyone on the prior alban wagon, why were you on there. Seriously, when the wagon hit L-1, why were you still on there even when we were about to lynch him?

2 - Everyone NOT on the alban wagon, why were you NOT on there, and why did you not call for the wagon to disband enough to not potentially end the day early?

3 - Why aren't you, personally, contributing more to the game?

4 - Who do you think should be looked at right now, and reasons for it. Minimum of three people so nobody can hide by just saying "alban" or some shite, we know there are multiple scums out there, so look at others regardless of where you are tunnelling.

[Dwlee99]

In Spanish, so just answering the last.
Alban and all alone's slor

[eagerSnake]

Prodding Socrates.

[alban]

In Spanish, so just answering the last.
Alban and all alone's slor

You still haven't answered about your biased attitude. Why are you not questioning anyone else who voted for me without an explanation (detailed in 154), when that seems to be your grouse against me?

[Socrates]

I'm back after a few days of hecticness.

Prana: You never got off the Alban wagon yourself despite your current attitude about the it. You better have a damn good explanation.

2) If you remember when I was last here, I was vocally astounded that people were letting the wagon develop as it was without issue myself. I was sure,

sure

, that at least one of the wagoners was going to come in and be like "what I don't want this" and unvote. But even you didn't.

3) I'm dealing with preparing to move houses at the moment. Life is busy.

4)Not_Mafia, Bork Bork, and fuck, I dunno, not enough people are posting to leave any impression at all!. I wanna see some real posting from Gin in particular, but he's V/LA.

Jaack would have been in my top 3, but he's dead now.

Look at Not_Mafia's Iso and tell me that's acceptable.

158 is in fact a bad post, but one that doesn't come from mafia.

I am unfamiliar with Dwlee as a player, but a ScumDwlee would have to be a very bold player to try to strongarm a mislynch day one this hard.

Both Dwlee and Alban's arguments against eachother amount to "No u". It's mutual tunnelling at it's finest.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Pre edit: I get prodded as I am writing this post. Figures.

[PimHel]

I did have a reason when I voted you, it is in the post where I voted. My case grows against you, yes, but it isnt post-facto reasoning.
Your repeated attempts to paint me as scummy with silly arguments is the main reason Im scumreading you. especially since it is a pushback from my push on you.

In Spanish, so just answering the last.
Alban and all alone's slor

Aaaaww, how sweet. Talking about pushbacks, yet you're doing the same by naming the players who are suspecting you as suspects.
But now to get serious.
1. The one with a scummy argument is you. You took alban's post, disected it and used one sentence out of its context to call him scummy. Alban checked if we were still in RVS, mentioned in that same post that the vote against him probably wasn't random and asked the voter why he voted Alban. In other words, the whole post was to question a vote. Not to alleviate pressure by asking quenstions to look useful.
2. Your response to Socrates is terrible. Socrates posted twice about his claim. The next post is about the Alban wagon. So his vote and him mentioning scum on the wagon didn't 'come out of nowhere'. Soft-jab spotted.

[PimHel]

Prana: You never got off the Alban wagon yourself despite your current attitude about the it. You better have a damn good explanation.

This, I support.
And I'll support Socrates's vote too if Not_Mafia doesn't answer the questions from Prana.

With that said, the questions from Prana are useful for two things. Let's see if they fulfil the functions.

[Dwlee99]

Aaaaww, how sweet. Talking about pushbacks, yet you're doing the same by naming the players who are suspecting you as suspects.

You aren't even aware of why I'm scumreading you, so how can you assign any meaning to my scum read? Scumreading people who scumread you is not scummy, but having bad reasons and silly arguments as to your scum read is scummy, especially when in an OMGUS manner.

1. The one with a scummy argument is you. You took alban's post, disected it and

used one sentence out of its context to call him scummy

.

Nope

Alban checked if we were still in RVS, mentioned in that same post that the vote against him probably wasn't random and asked the voter why he voted Alban. In other words, the whole post was to question a vote. Not to alleviate pressure by asking quenstions to look useful.

Eh, fair enough.

2. Your response to Socrates is terrible. Socrates posted twice about his claim. The next post is about the Alban wagon. So his vote and him mentioning scum on the wagon didn't 'come out of nowhere'. Soft-jab spotted.

What response to socrates? Can you quote posts so I know what you're even talking about?

[Dwlee99]

I think it is odd that Alban didn't just say that he was wondering why someone voted him. His entire behavior since being wagonned has been off, I don't know enough about his posting habits to say absolutely conclusively, but his reduction in posting especially when close to lynch rubs me the wrong way.